Big Brown Blows it!
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JagFarlane
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Yup so I noticed...sad really. Was really hoping to see the first triple crown winner in my lifetime
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Yup so I noticed...sad really. Was really hoping to see the first triple crown winner in my lifetime
Yikes! I'm old. There have been three in mine and I remember them all. Two after I graduated high school.
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I must be pretty old too. Secretariat, Seattle Slew and Afirmed, I believe. They all won many years after I finished high school.
I don't actually remember that last one, but that's because I have no real interest in horse racing.
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Naw. Jag's just a little kid
Here he is:http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/31667.jpg?zm=130,130,1,0,0
voluptuary_manque
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Awwwwwwwwwwwww . . .
JagFarlane
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Naw. Jag's just a little kid
Here he is:http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/31667.jpg?zm=130,130,1,0,0
LOL yea yea just cause I was born 3yrs after the last Triple Crown winner
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Naw. Jag's just a little kid
Here he is:http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/31667.jpg?zm=130,130,1,0,0
Laughing -
He's taller than me.
MagicaPractica
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It was sad but you could see when he was running third, before the jockey ever took him to the outside, he just didn't have it in him. Three in five weeks is no joke, that's why so few have been able to do it.
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fuck you!
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shereads
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You said that about "NFL comes to London" and "Napoleon's Penis."
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I heard a few weeks ago that he was having trouble with a split in his hoof. Has anyone heard if there had been any more problems associated with it, or does this sound like it was just a bad day?
No matter what, it's hard for me to get excited about horse racing until they get the drugs out of it. I heard a horse expert laugh when Brown's trainer talked about doing it the "right way" (since he's had a number of horses busted for doping). I know sports is never going to be "pure", but if no one is doping, then the field is just as even as if everyone is doing it. Until then, it just doesn't interest me.
No matter what, it's hard for me to get excited about horse racing until they get the drugs out of it. I heard a horse expert laugh when Brown's trainer talked about doing it the "right way" (since he's had a number of horses busted for doping). I know sports is never going to be "pure", but if no one is doping, then the field is just as even as if everyone is doing it. Until then, it just doesn't interest me.
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He was injecting Big Brown with steroids - still legal in the Triple Crown states - until two months ago. (April 15 was the last time, and a TV spokeshead said it might still have been in the horse's system when he raced in the Preakness.) I'll bet the trainer is sorry now that he didn't give Brown that last injection.
I was reminded of the line from "Airplane":
"This is not a good time to stop sniffing glue."
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The specialist who treated the split hoof yesterday said that Big Brown was unaffected by the problem. It's apparently fairly common and about as serious as a chipped fingernail is for a human.
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I had heard them say it wouldn't affect him, but wondered if that was like a football coach saying his player's injury wouldn't be a factor.
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being from baltimore, and being a mick, horse racing is a big deal for me. I cant wait till next year, when i'll be 21 and at the preakness. Biggest party in the midatlantic at least.
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A Day Later: Kudos for Zito, Questions About Big Brown
(NY Times)
By JOE DRAPE
Published: June 9, 2008
In Barn 12 on Sunday morning, Nick Zito accepted congratulations for spoiling yet another Triple Crown bid. Just as he did in 2004, Zito stopped the coronation of a Triple Crown champion. Four years ago, he did it with the 36-1 shot Birdstone against Smarty Jones. This time, it was a 38-1 long shot named Da’ Tara beating Big Brown.
“No one can figure this out,” his co-owner Michael Iavarone said.
Iavarone said the stoppage of steroid use was not the reason for Big Brown’s showing. “He wasn’t on steroids for the Preakness,” he said.
What happened Saturday in the 140th running of the Belmont Stakes, however, was far more shocking, and perhaps sad.
Big Brown was considered such a stone-cold lock to become the 12th Triple Crown champion that industry executives had already printed invitations for a celebration of the colt Monday at Tavern on the Green.
In Barn 2, Big Brown’s temporary home at Belmont Park, there was no one around Sunday morning to explain not only how the big bay was beaten, but also how he had to be pulled up under his jockey, Kent Desormeaux, before running even two-thirds of the mile-and-a-half race. Big Brown’s trainer, Rick Dutrow, was nowhere to be found, nor were any of his owners.
Big Brown seemed fine as he walked the barn with his regular exercise rider, Michelle Nevin; the diagnosis, as well as the prognosis, was the same as it was late Saturday night. He had been examined, scoped, poked and prodded by veterinarians.
“Nothing, nothing and nothing,” Iavarone, a co-president of International Equine Acquisitions Holdings, which owns part of Big Brown, said later in the day by telephone. “He scoped clean. His feet are ice cold. The quarter crack is not an issue. We’re perplexed. No one can figure this out. We’re watching him closely and hope we didn’t miss anything.”
As usual, the second-guessing was rampant. Did Desormeaux wrangle him too hard early, taking the run out of Big Brown? Were the three days of missed training because of the quarter crack and Dutrow’s careful training schedule responsible for an out-of-shape horse? Could it have been the weather?
Worst of all for Big Brown’s connections, perhaps, were the questions about steroids. Dutrow told The New York Times last week that Big Brown had not had his usual shot of the anabolic steroid Winstrol since April 15, enough time for the drug to leave his system.
Was Big Brown’s poor performance because of his lack of “juice?”
“He wasn’t on steroids for the Preakness,” Iavarone said. “There is a million things that could have got him beat. If people are going to say that no Winstrol got him beat, they are going to say that.”
Zito made it clear that the questions about steroids and other drugs in horse racing had put a damper on his second Belmont triumph and fifth Triple Crown victory over all in what is a Hall of Fame career. “The lords of horse racing need to get together and make some rules that we all abide by,” he said. “It’s a big issue and we can’t ignore it, and we need to get past it.”
Before the race, Zito declined to say if his two horses in the Belmont, including Anak Nakal, who tied for third, would be on steroids. On Sunday, he also declined to say if his horses had received steroids. In the wake of Eight Belles’s fatal injuries after finishing second in the Kentucky Derby, and Dutrow’s frank discussion of pharmaceuticals over the course of the Triple Crown, there appears to be a groundswell of support in the industry to ban steroids and prohibit race-day medications.
Besides losing the Triple Crown and a place among immortal horses Saturday, Big Brown diminished his reputation as a racehorse and might have significantly decreased his value as a stallion, not to mention his marketing value. Before the Preakness, Three Chimneys Farm in Midway, Ky., purchased a percentage of Big Brown’s stallion rights in a deal valued at $60 million.
If he had become the first to sweep the series since Affirmed in 1978, Big Brown would have been expected to stand for at least $200,000 a mating and, as the only living Triple Crown champion, would have been worth up to $120 million.
Instead, I.E.A.H. and Big Brown’s other co-owners are going to be hard pressed to restore the colt’s stallion market to perhaps half of that $60 million level. Big Brown does not have a particularly fashionable pedigree: his sire, Boundary, stood for $10,000 for 11 seasons before being pensioned, and he produced a modest 16 stakes winners, mostly sprinters.
Big Brown is pointed to run in the Travers at Saratoga in August, and the Breeders’ Cup Classic in October at Santa Anita, where he is likely to meet Curlin, the reigning horse of the year.
“It puts a little more pressure on us to win those races,” Iavarone said. “I know a lot of people say we haven’t beaten anyone, and we needed to take on older horses.”
So for now, Big Brown’s future is pretty straightforward. Dutrow, Iavarone and his camp will go back to the drawing board.
Unless a physical ailment shows up, Iavarone says Big Brown will maintain his regular training schedule in Dutrow’s main barn at Aqueduct and perhaps breeze as soon as two weeks from now.
“All we can do is chalk this up as a mystery,” Iavarone said, “and regroup.”
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I am so glad I didn't invest my $60 million on this horse. Can't say I wasn't tempted.
(NY Times)
By JOE DRAPE
Published: June 9, 2008
In Barn 12 on Sunday morning, Nick Zito accepted congratulations for spoiling yet another Triple Crown bid. Just as he did in 2004, Zito stopped the coronation of a Triple Crown champion. Four years ago, he did it with the 36-1 shot Birdstone against Smarty Jones. This time, it was a 38-1 long shot named Da’ Tara beating Big Brown.
“No one can figure this out,” his co-owner Michael Iavarone said.
Iavarone said the stoppage of steroid use was not the reason for Big Brown’s showing. “He wasn’t on steroids for the Preakness,” he said.
What happened Saturday in the 140th running of the Belmont Stakes, however, was far more shocking, and perhaps sad.
Big Brown was considered such a stone-cold lock to become the 12th Triple Crown champion that industry executives had already printed invitations for a celebration of the colt Monday at Tavern on the Green.
In Barn 2, Big Brown’s temporary home at Belmont Park, there was no one around Sunday morning to explain not only how the big bay was beaten, but also how he had to be pulled up under his jockey, Kent Desormeaux, before running even two-thirds of the mile-and-a-half race. Big Brown’s trainer, Rick Dutrow, was nowhere to be found, nor were any of his owners.
Big Brown seemed fine as he walked the barn with his regular exercise rider, Michelle Nevin; the diagnosis, as well as the prognosis, was the same as it was late Saturday night. He had been examined, scoped, poked and prodded by veterinarians.
“Nothing, nothing and nothing,” Iavarone, a co-president of International Equine Acquisitions Holdings, which owns part of Big Brown, said later in the day by telephone. “He scoped clean. His feet are ice cold. The quarter crack is not an issue. We’re perplexed. No one can figure this out. We’re watching him closely and hope we didn’t miss anything.”
As usual, the second-guessing was rampant. Did Desormeaux wrangle him too hard early, taking the run out of Big Brown? Were the three days of missed training because of the quarter crack and Dutrow’s careful training schedule responsible for an out-of-shape horse? Could it have been the weather?
Worst of all for Big Brown’s connections, perhaps, were the questions about steroids. Dutrow told The New York Times last week that Big Brown had not had his usual shot of the anabolic steroid Winstrol since April 15, enough time for the drug to leave his system.
Was Big Brown’s poor performance because of his lack of “juice?”
“He wasn’t on steroids for the Preakness,” Iavarone said. “There is a million things that could have got him beat. If people are going to say that no Winstrol got him beat, they are going to say that.”
Zito made it clear that the questions about steroids and other drugs in horse racing had put a damper on his second Belmont triumph and fifth Triple Crown victory over all in what is a Hall of Fame career. “The lords of horse racing need to get together and make some rules that we all abide by,” he said. “It’s a big issue and we can’t ignore it, and we need to get past it.”
Before the race, Zito declined to say if his two horses in the Belmont, including Anak Nakal, who tied for third, would be on steroids. On Sunday, he also declined to say if his horses had received steroids. In the wake of Eight Belles’s fatal injuries after finishing second in the Kentucky Derby, and Dutrow’s frank discussion of pharmaceuticals over the course of the Triple Crown, there appears to be a groundswell of support in the industry to ban steroids and prohibit race-day medications.
Besides losing the Triple Crown and a place among immortal horses Saturday, Big Brown diminished his reputation as a racehorse and might have significantly decreased his value as a stallion, not to mention his marketing value. Before the Preakness, Three Chimneys Farm in Midway, Ky., purchased a percentage of Big Brown’s stallion rights in a deal valued at $60 million.
If he had become the first to sweep the series since Affirmed in 1978, Big Brown would have been expected to stand for at least $200,000 a mating and, as the only living Triple Crown champion, would have been worth up to $120 million.
Instead, I.E.A.H. and Big Brown’s other co-owners are going to be hard pressed to restore the colt’s stallion market to perhaps half of that $60 million level. Big Brown does not have a particularly fashionable pedigree: his sire, Boundary, stood for $10,000 for 11 seasons before being pensioned, and he produced a modest 16 stakes winners, mostly sprinters.
Big Brown is pointed to run in the Travers at Saratoga in August, and the Breeders’ Cup Classic in October at Santa Anita, where he is likely to meet Curlin, the reigning horse of the year.
“It puts a little more pressure on us to win those races,” Iavarone said. “I know a lot of people say we haven’t beaten anyone, and we needed to take on older horses.”
So for now, Big Brown’s future is pretty straightforward. Dutrow, Iavarone and his camp will go back to the drawing board.
Unless a physical ailment shows up, Iavarone says Big Brown will maintain his regular training schedule in Dutrow’s main barn at Aqueduct and perhaps breeze as soon as two weeks from now.
“All we can do is chalk this up as a mystery,” Iavarone said, “and regroup.”
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I am so glad I didn't invest my $60 million on this horse. Can't say I wasn't tempted.
