Biden says Russia should be booted from G-20

[pecksniff]

USA Today

President Joe Biden said Russia should be kicked out of the Group of 20 nations in retaliation for its invasion of Ukraine, a major step that would further isolate the Kremlin and restrict Russia's say in the global economy.

Russia’s membership in the group, which represents the world’s major economies, was discussed during an emergency meeting with key U.S. allies, Biden told reporters Thursday during a news conference at NATO headquarters in Brussels.

He noted that the decision on whether to boot Russia from the group is up to other G-20 members. If the other members decline to revoke Russia’s membership, Ukraine should be permitted to attend G-20 meetings, Biden said.
The G-20 includes not only Western democracies but also tyrannical and authoritarian countries such as China and Saudi Arabia. The group works to address major issues impacting the global economy.

The U.S. and other allies expelled Russia in 2014 from a smaller group that represents industrialized nations after Russia’s annexation of Crimea. That alliance, known at the time as the Group of Eight, is now called the Group of Seven, or G-7.

 

[jomar]

Yes and yes

 

[ll74]

Agree

 

[pecksniff]

I think what's at issue here is that since the war started, Russia's economy has shrunk so much that it is no longer G-20 material.

 

[Dribble]

Let them become another North Korea.

 

[Rightguide]

Right now it has no economy of notice. So yes kick them out of the G-20. Biden is going to allow them to sell oil and gas to the G-20, however.

 

[ll74]

Right now it has no economy of notice. So yes kick them out of the G-20. Biden is going to allow them to sell oil and gas to the G-20, however.

How does the President of the US "allow" business dealings for other countries.

Are you alleging he should sanction other NATO countries? Other allies?

Seriously?

 

[pecksniff]

Germany will continue to buy Russian gas because they can't get through the winter without it.

 

[jomar]

He also called for Putin to no longer be the ruler in Russia

 

[pecksniff]

He also called for Putin to no longer be the ruler in Russia

At some point, the Russians are going to figure out that practically any other regime could make them richer. Even the Communists returning to power would be less likely to provoke international economic sanctions.

 

[Rightguide]

Germany will continue to buy Russian gas because they can't get through the winter without it.

So they continue to finance the Russian war.

 

[ll74]

So they continue to finance the Russian war.

Oversimplify much?

 

[pecksniff]

So they continue to finance the Russian war.

Well, quite recently, Biden has been working to provide Germany with American gas as an alternative. Of course, it cannot be shipped there by sea as cheaply as Russian gas through a pipeline.

 

[YDB95]

How does the President of the US "allow" business dealings for other countries.

Are you alleging he should sanction other NATO countries? Other allies?

Seriously?

He undoubtedly believes that's what Trump would have done. And for once, he might even be right - it does sound like something Trump would at least try to do.

 

[Champakian]

...

I was going off his other comments. ever mind.

 

[Chernosoth]

Russians will remember this when the nations of broken organizations try to join a new organization led by Russia and China.

 

[Rightguide]

Well, quite recently, Biden has been working to provide Germany with American gas as an alternative. Of course, it cannot be shipped there by sea as cheaply as Russian gas through a pipeline.

The alternative is to be beholding to the enemy and in his chokehold.

 

[Chernosoth]

Europe is severely overpopulated, with worse coming as the mideast depopulates with climate change and the fossil fuels are depleted. Their options are die where they live and move to Russia.

 

[LupusDei]

Right now it has no economy of notice. So yes kick them out of the G-20. Biden is going to allow them to sell oil and gas to the G-20, however.

It's not Biden, it's mostly Germany, with understandable support from China. I didn't realize how deeply the SDP was infiltrated by Russia.

 

[Dribble]

It's not Biden, it's mostly Germany, with understandable support from China. I didn't realize how deeply the SDP was infiltrated by Russia.

No deeper than our Republican Party. Putin is very smart. This has been very deliberate. He just very much misjudged his military power.

 

[pecksniff]

Europe is severely overpopulated, with worse coming as the mideast depopulates with climate change and the fossil fuels are depleted. Their options are die where they live and move to Russia.

Russia's not as big as it looks -- that is, its climate and soil are mostly not very good for farming; it never could support a dense population. If Hitler had won, he would have been disappointed at how little his new Lebensraum actually amounted to.

 

[icanhelp1]

The alternative is to be beholding to the enemy and in his chokehold.

Trump was right and they just refuse to admit i. He was right about NATO and right about Europe being dependent on Russian energy.

 

[pecksniff]

Trump was right and they just refuse to admit i. He was right about NATO and right about Europe being dependent on Russian energy.

It does not appear, now, that Europe has many other options.

 

[Rightguide]

It does not appear, now, that Europe has many other options.

To that extent, Putin has been successful in dividing NATO as Trump feared and stated.

 

[ll74]

To that extent, Putin has been successful in dividing NATO as Trump feared and stated.

Delusional