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R. Richard

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I hope you Brits will forgive me but sardine on toast sorbet and bacon and egg ice cream remind me of an ill fated visit I made to Fast Eddie's Taco And Sushi Palace in Palmdale, CA. Comment?

[size]British restaurant declared best in world[/size]

LONDON (AFP) - A British restaurant emerged as the best in the world in an annual list that also revealed Britain -- a country often laughed at for its poor food -- is home to the largest number of top eateries.

The Fat Duck, in a village in Berkshire, west of London, won the coveted title of top dining spot at The World's 50 Best Restaurant's 2005 awards on Monday night, which also featured 13 other restaurants in Britain alone.

Critics, however, argued that the annual list -- compiled by the magazine Restaurant and chosen by more than 500 chefs and experts -- was more of a guide on good places to eat rather than the best the world has to offer.

Comprising entries from mainly developed countries, France had eight restaurants inside the top 50, while the United States only had six.

Asia was notably lacking in representation at the awards in London, with just one restaurant in Hong Kong, called Felix, coming in at number 49.

Owned by chef Heston Blumenthal, The Fat Duck in Bray wowed the judges with original dishes such as sardine on toast sorbet and bacon and egg ice cream.

"It's a complete package of enjoyment I am after," said Blumenthal, whose scientific approach to creating new flavours has seen him dubbed the guru of "molecular gastronomy", according to The Guardian newspaper.

"If I discover something new and get a sense of excitement about it, I want to pass it on to the customer in the dining room," he was quoted as saying by the daily.

"It is like when you see an incredible view or drink a great bottle of wine -- the experience is heightened if you share it with someone else."

The restaurant, which offers three extensive menus ranging in price from 37.50 pounds (71 dollars, 55 euros) for lunch to 97.50 pounds, snatched the top slot from The French Laundry in California, pushing it into third place.

Second in line was Spain's El Bulli, while fourth and fifth went to Tetsuya's in Sydney and Gordon Ramsay in London.

Ella Johnston, the editor of Restaurant magazine, said the public's growing enthusiasm for food drove Britain's dynamic restaurant scene -- which has moved far away from the stereotypical, bland image of meat-and-two-veg in the past.

"British chefs used to just go abroad to the US and France," she was quoted as saying in The Guardian.

"Now, with people becoming more adventurous eaters and with more money in London and the surrounding areas, they know they will have an audience for great food," she said.

Jay Rayner, a food critic in the weekly Observer newspaper, however, argued that the list was an unfair reflection of the world's dining industry.

"By no stretch of the imagination are 14 of the world's best restaurants in the UK," he said in the Observer's sister Guardian newspaper.

While agreeing that The Fat Duck deserved its number one rating and other eateries were tasty, Rayner said: "The list is a collection of 50 good restaurants, some of which deserve to be there, some of which don't.

Johnston agreed that the list could be seen as "Angloscentric", but she denied that it was biased as it had been chosen by an international panel that included prominent figures such as the Chinese chef Ken Hom.
 
The strange American belief that there's no decent food in England always baffles me. I'm not entirely sure where it coems from. Anyone?

The Earl
 
I can't speak for all people who live in America, but blood pudding and baked beans on toast come to mind. ;)

I'm joking. Americans think there is nothing to eat in Japan, either.
 
yui said:
I can't speak for all people who live in America, but blood pudding and baked beans on toast come to mind. ;)

I'm joking. Americans think there is nothing to eat in Japan, either.

HEY!!!

I watch Iron Chef... I know plenty of good places to eat in Japan... or at least plenty of good places a few years ago.

Plus... I WWWWWUVVVVVV Sushi!

There are entire weeks that I eat Sushi everyday, and when the Sig-Other visits home, I'll Sushi for every meal except breakfast.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
TheEarl said:
The strange American belief that there's no decent food in England always baffles me. I'm not entirely sure where it coems from. Anyone?

The Earl

It was Dickens. We all had to read Dickens in high school.
 
TheEarl said:
The strange American belief that there's no decent food in England always baffles me. I'm not entirely sure where it coems from. Anyone?

The Earl

OK, lets rip the cover off and look in the dark corners. An English plum pudding does not have any plums! (Sorry Brits, but you asked for it!)

Many Americans go to foreign destinations and then eat at the foreign MickeyDs and wonder why the food is not all that good.
 
R. Richard said:
OK, lets rip the cover off and look in the dark corners. An English plum pudding does not have any plums! (Sorry Brits, but you asked for it!)

Many Americans go to foreign destinations and then eat at the foreign MickeyDs and wonder why the food is not all that good.

Have never had plum pudding before. Roast beef and vegetables, yes. Full English, yes (although black pudding's not to my taste). Can't see how anyone can have issues with them.

The Earl
 
I lerv food

I think the English have come of age in this department.

But things always change. Adelaide, where i live, was the culinary capital of Australia 10 years ago. Never before or since did one hick town have so much brilliant, exotic food at such outrageously cheap prices. I used to feel guilty eating out - handing over a pittance for creations of sumptious splendour.

Nowadays - its crap. Why? I don't know exactly. A glut of great chefs moved to bigger easter cities (Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane) to make their mark.

Also, once a certain style of cusine arises it inevitably goes downhill subequently. They start working out the "formula", taking less chances, trying to secure market share with "safe" menus.

Its hard to get a good meal in the US I think, unless one is really willing to fork out the dosh. Haven't been recently though.

SL61
 
ah but America has to offer...
chitlins
and ham hocks...black eyed peas
*gag*
sorry, i cant ....just....ugh
 
I just can't get by steak and kidney pie. Why would you want to eat something that filters piss?

Or liver - the place where the body sends all the toxins it doesn't know what to do with.
 
sun_lover_61 said:
Its hard to get a good meal in the US I think, unless one is really willing to fork out the dosh. Haven't been recently though.

SL61

The US has great food and it doesn't have to cost a lot. The thing about it is, it's not necessarily American food. When I think of my favorite restaurants, I end up with a long list of Thai, Italian, Mexican, French, Middle Eastern, etc.

When I think of American food, I think of diner food: burgers and fries, meatloaf and mashed potatoes, sandwiches, etc., which I wouldn't go so far as to call an actual 'cuisine'. California cuisine is great, though - it has a Pan-Asian influence with lots of vegetables and seafood, plus a bit of French with creative sauces and unusual mixes of flavors and combinations of foods.

Big cities are great for food here. The small towns, though, are deadly. Plenty of good diner food is available, and some places have local specialties (ribs, etc.), but you have to suffer without all the foreign food restaurants so readily available in the bigger cities.
 
TheEarl said:
The strange American belief that there's no decent food in England always baffles me. I'm not entirely sure where it coems from. Anyone?

The Earl

Well, not just in the States. We, in Canada, also believe it. I am not certain where it comes from, could be the blood pudding, and the fact that Brits in our restaurants not only order Filet Mignon and Lamb WELL DONE (sacriledge), but are notoriously damn cheap tippers! I am certain the rumour was started by a server in a restaurant.

It's true :|
 
Warning: Retch Level Orange

I haven't eaten anything prepared by anyone else since that fingertip was found in a cup of Wendys chili a few weeks ago. I wouldn't have minded so much, except that the story came only a few days after a local one involving a quantity of maggots found in some rice at a chain restaurant whose drive-thru I used to frequent. Can't go far wrong with boiled rice, right?

ha.

The oddest thing about the Wendy's fingertip is that no one has reported one missing. Maybe some people would be hesitant to tell an employer, "I have fouled the vat of chili with a severed body part." But wouldn't most of us quickly make the mental leap to the pot of gold at the end of Unsafe Industrial Working Conditions?

Anyway, it's for the best. It's been a year since I read Fast Food Nation and I was almost at the stage of denial where a McDonalds cheeseburger didn't seem like a bad idea.
 
Ireland has a culinary reputation that ranks slightly above haggis. I can't say it's deserved. Spending a week or two as a tourist in any country is likely to turn up some awful-to-mediocre meals, especially if most of your time is spent in rural areas.

The great meal might have been just around the next bend in the road.

That's what I tell myself when I imagine my future visit to Ireland. When I duck into a charming pub on a cold day and order the chicken soup, I hope not to have what was served to my friend C: "a pool of clear broth with what appeared to be baby chicken floating in it, boiled to a sort of yellowish-white." She insists that everything she ate in Ireland was boiled to that same basic shade, even the beef.

:rolleyes:

Another friend spent his honeymoon with relatives in Ireland, and claims to have subsisted for two weeks on oatmeal and blood pudding.

Beats finding a fingertip in your chili.
 
shereads said:
Ireland has a culinary reputation that ranks slightly above haggis. I can't say it's deserved. Spending a week or two as a tourist in any country is likely to turn up some awful-to-mediocre meals, especially if most of your time is spent in rural areas.

The great meal might have been just around the next bend in the road.

That's what I tell myself when I imagine my future visit to Ireland. When I duck into a charming pub on a cold day and order the chicken soup, I hope not to have what was served to my friend C: "a pool of clear broth with what appeared to be baby chicken floating in it, boiled to a sort of yellowish-white." She insists that everything she ate in Ireland was boiled to that same basic shade, even the beef.

:rolleyes:

Another friend spent his honeymoon with relatives in Ireland, and claims to have subsisted for two weeks on oatmeal and blood pudding.

Beats finding a fingertip in your chili.

But there beer is excellent.
 
This from the land that brought us MacDonalds ! Corn flakes ! Coke !
Full of crap, sugar and salt.
Give us a break!
 
I don't get the universal horror of black pudding (It's not actually called blood pudding in England). Okay, so it's made using blood. So's gravy.

Mind you, I still think it tastes horrible.

I could understand disgust on haggis and would fully support people saying that British food is minging for that reason if it didn't taste so damn nice :D. For those of you not brave enough to take th plunge, haggis tastes like a very dry, slightly spicy fried beef mince and when I ate it, was served with a spicy tomato sauce.

Charley: Agreed on the well done lamb. Ugh. That's not typical.

The Earl
 
R. Richard said:
I hope you Brits will forgive me but sardine on toast sorbet and bacon and egg ice cream remind me of an ill fated visit I made to Fast Eddie's Taco And Sushi Palace in Palmdale, CA. Comment?

[size]British restaurant declared best in world[/size]

LONDON (AFP) - A British restaurant emerged as the best in the world in an annual list that also revealed Britain -- a country often laughed at for its poor food -- is home to the largest number of top eateries.

The Fat Duck, in a village in Berkshire, west of London, won the coveted title of top dining spot at The World's 50 Best Restaurant's 2005 awards on Monday night, which also featured 13 other restaurants in Britain alone.

Critics, however, argued that the annual list -- compiled by the magazine Restaurant and chosen by more than 500 chefs and experts -- was more of a guide on good places to eat rather than the best the world has to offer.

Comprising entries from mainly developed countries, France had eight restaurants inside the top 50, while the United States only had six.

Asia was notably lacking in representation at the awards in London, with just one restaurant in Hong Kong, called Felix, coming in at number 49.

Owned by chef Heston Blumenthal, The Fat Duck in Bray wowed the judges with original dishes such as sardine on toast sorbet and bacon and egg ice cream.

"It's a complete package of enjoyment I am after," said Blumenthal, whose scientific approach to creating new flavours has seen him dubbed the guru of "molecular gastronomy", according to The Guardian newspaper.

"If I discover something new and get a sense of excitement about it, I want to pass it on to the customer in the dining room," he was quoted as saying by the daily.

"It is like when you see an incredible view or drink a great bottle of wine -- the experience is heightened if you share it with someone else."

The restaurant, which offers three extensive menus ranging in price from 37.50 pounds (71 dollars, 55 euros) for lunch to 97.50 pounds, snatched the top slot from The French Laundry in California, pushing it into third place.

Second in line was Spain's El Bulli, while fourth and fifth went to Tetsuya's in Sydney and Gordon Ramsay in London.

Ella Johnston, the editor of Restaurant magazine, said the public's growing enthusiasm for food drove Britain's dynamic restaurant scene -- which has moved far away from the stereotypical, bland image of meat-and-two-veg in the past.

"British chefs used to just go abroad to the US and France," she was quoted as saying in The Guardian.

"Now, with people becoming more adventurous eaters and with more money in London and the surrounding areas, they know they will have an audience for great food," she said.

Jay Rayner, a food critic in the weekly Observer newspaper, however, argued that the list was an unfair reflection of the world's dining industry.

"By no stretch of the imagination are 14 of the world's best restaurants in the UK," he said in the Observer's sister Guardian newspaper.

While agreeing that The Fat Duck deserved its number one rating and other eateries were tasty, Rayner said: "The list is a collection of 50 good restaurants, some of which deserve to be there, some of which don't.

Johnston agreed that the list could be seen as "Angloscentric", but she denied that it was biased as it had been chosen by an international panel that included prominent figures such as the Chinese chef Ken Hom.

I have eaten there and beleive me the egg and bacon ice cream is to die for! And so is everything else!!
 
yui said:
I can't speak for all people who live in America, but blood pudding and baked beans on toast come to mind. ;)

I'm joking. Americans think there is nothing to eat in Japan, either.

Of course there's stuff to eat in Japan! Raw fish and Ramen noodles...
 
elsol said:
HEY!!!

I watch Iron Chef... I know plenty of good places to eat in Japan... or at least plenty of good places a few years ago.

Plus... I WWWWWUVVVVVV Sushi!

There are entire weeks that I eat Sushi everyday, and when the Sig-Other visits home, I'll Sushi for every meal except breakfast.

Sincerely,
ElSol

You're absolutely right, elsol! My apologies for making a generalization about
Americans.



P.S. I think I love your dog. ;)

Just-Legal said:
Of course there's stuff to eat in Japan! Raw fish and Ramen noodles...

And sake to drink… :D
 
yui said:
I can't speak for all people who live in America, but blood pudding and baked beans on toast come to mind. ;)

I'm joking. Americans think there is nothing to eat in Japan, either.

yaki tori
ika yaki
gyoza

McDonald's
 
TheEarl said:
Charley: Agreed on the well done lamb. Ugh. That's not typical.

The Earl

you are 3/4's into my heart, lets talk FILET and TIPS - LOL

OH - forgot to ask. You blokes duna go into the Charles/Camilla tampon thing, unh? Cuz thats just weird :D
 
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TheEarl said:
The strange American belief that there's no decent food in England always baffles me. I'm not entirely sure where it coems from. Anyone?

The Earl

From beans and sausages, probably. Canned beans especially are the food of last resort over here. They're what you eat when there's absolutely nothing left in the house, or you've lost all your money and can't afford real food. There's a strong association with hoboes sitting around a campfire cooking up their cans of beans. To try and dress them up by putting them on toast just makes them seem even sadder.

Sausages too are considered infra dig over here: the meat of last resort--a deadly mixture of chemicals, saturated animal fat, and unspeakable animal parts. Even the noble hotdog has become a kind of symbol of suicidal tendencies. Eat a hotdog in public and people look at you like you're shooting up heroin. Some people here are literally terrified of sausages.

More probably it goes back to WWII, when GI's were over there during rationing.

I'm pretty Anglophilic, and I've got a couple of English cookbooks. It seems that all the recipes are for foreign food, though: French, Italian, Indian. The real British recipes are for things like bubble-and-squeak or toad-in-the-hole. These are pretty old cookbooks though. I have no idea of what English cuisine is like these days.

Not that I'm saying that American food is anything great either. There are great and innovative restaurants here, but the stuff most people eat is pretty dull and not very good. Not like France, where a loaf of bread is really worth eating, and people seem to care a lot about what they put in their mouths.
 
Americans don't do beans and sausages? So there's no beans, sausages and chips meals there? Or full English breakfasts?

Tell me you people do eat bacon.

The Earl
 
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