Bernie!

[Beco]

Bernie isnt showing up to AIPAC, what a dope....

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Sanders is no extremist. He wants to return the US to the status quo ante, circa the Lyndon Johnson administration. That would be a damn sight better than what we have now, but it's not good enough.

“And that vicious movement was designed to delegitimize President Barack Obama.”

The thing that disturbs me most about Sanders is his puppy-dog reflex to defend the neo-con war criminal, Barack Obama.

 

[sr71plt]

The longer the 2016 presidential nomination campaign goes, the better and better that Barack Obama looks like as the president. (And that's the truth.)

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not being a corpratist in the US makes you an extremist.

It's true!

The longer the 2016 presidential nomination campaign goes, the better and better that Barack Obama looks like as the president. (And that's the truth.)

Just vote Hillary....she works for the same people Obama does
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[AlwaysHungry]

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[Boxlicker101]

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When I first heard about the Bern, I predicted he would get burned. Extremists of either party do not get elected, although they do sometimes get nominated

He's not an extremist.

Ted Cruz is an extremist.

Sanders just wants America to quit trying to re-invent the wheel and get honest about how much it loves socialism, quit trying to dress it up as something else because they stick a contractor in there to scam the tax payer.

Compared to most people, he is an extremist. So is Ted Cruz. I call him the American Taliban because of his extreme religious views.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Sanders is no extremist. He wants to return the US to the status quo ante, circa the Lyndon Johnson administration. That would be a damn sight better than what we have now, but it's not good enough.



The thing that disturbs me most about Sanders is his puppy-dog reflex to defend the neo-con war criminal, Barack Obama.

Are you saying he wants us to get involved in Vietnam again?

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Are you saying he wants us to get involved in Vietnam again?

Actually, I don't know what he wants in terms of foreign policy. Maybe he doesn't know either. He ain't sayin'. Personally, I would like to get us out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq, and all the other places where Obama is currently trying to bully other nations and bomb weddings and hospitals. But like I say, Bernie seems to want to defend Obama.

My comment about the LBJ era is that Bernie seems to wish to regulate speculative financiers and maintain the social safety net, and that to me is a good thing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Compared to most people, he is an extremist.

Sanders is not, you just listen to too much Bill O'Reilly who would tar and feather Reagan as a pinko commie radical Islam apologist for his policies if he were in the white house right now.


You can't even name a position he's that extreme about except saving money by getting rid of the pseudo capitalism involved in and ripping off our socialist government.

 

[JackLuis]

Bernie Sanders wins Democrats Abroad primary

Down but not out, Senator Bernie Sanders scored a big win in the Democrats Abroad global primary as the contest to become the party's candidate in November's presidential election heats up.

"We are waging a strong campaign and plan to take it all the way to the Democratic National Convention this summer," Sanders said after his win on Monday.

The party said 34,570 American citizens living abroad in 38 countries cast votes by internet, mail, and in person from March 1-8.
Socialism, Bernie Sanders style

Sanders received 69 percent of the vote to earn nine of the 13 delegates at stake. Hillary Clinton won 31 percent, picking up four delegates.

Clinton now has 1,163 delegates to Sanders' 844 based on primaries and caucuses.

In the US primary system, voters select delegates supporting their candidates in each state and then the delegates vote for the candidates in parties' national conventions.

When including superdelegates, or party leaders who can support any candidate, her lead is even bigger - 1,630 to Sanders' 870. It takes 2,383 delegates to win the nomination.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Looking forward to Bernie on the Final 5 in a few minutes.

He needs to find a way to make headlines. Even the SNL schtick is good for him. Anything.

And he has to do it in California. His campaign management is starting to piss me off. Dopes the lot of them.

 

[Beco]

I still cant believe that Bernie didnt attend AIPAC? makes no sense....

 

[BotanyBoy]

I still cant believe that Bernie didnt attend AIPAC? makes no sense....

Actually it kinda does.

He doesn't want to be seen as pandering to his religion or an Israeli puppet. That's good for his left base, they like to see that he can separate his religion from his job.

As far as any of the Christians here might be concerned he once again doesn't look like he's going to be bringing much of that Jewish nonsense into their evangelical bubble, that might make him a little more appealing to the middle should they be forced to chose between a socialist and a narcissistic psychopath.

Sanders is keepin' it fuckin' classy.

 

[Beco]

Actually it kinda does.

He doesn't want to be seen as pandering to his religion or an Israeli puppet. That's good for his left base, they like to see that he can separate his religion from his job.

As far as any of the Christians here might be concerned he once again doesn't look like he's going to be bringing much of that Jewish nonsense into their evangelical bubble, that might make him a little more appealing to the middle should they be forced to chose between a socialist and a narcissistic psychopath.

Sanders is keepin' it fuckin' classy.

Uh, he's is losing! Plus they now go into the Northwest, plently of Jewish folk there to vote. Obama got 80% of the Jewish vote, he should have been there. Big mistake...

 

[Sean Renaud]

A quick google tells me that like most minorities Jews vote Democrat. Obama getting a mere 69% vs Romney was the worst showing since Dukakis (67) and Mondale (64) with Carter's 1980 run being the only time Democrats haven't carried the Jewish vote since Cox in 1920. (And no, I have no clue who Cox is so go ahead and make fun of me.)

Given that Jews make up less than two percent of the population one has to wonder why so much energy is spent courting them. I don't mean to claim their opinions aren't valid. Simply stating that in raw numbers pulling 20% of the African American vote or 10% of the Latino Vote> 100% of the Jewish Vote.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Uh, he's is losing! Plus they now go into the Northwest, plently of Jewish folk there to vote. Obama got 80% of the Jewish vote, he should have been there. Big mistake...

Well yea mostly red states have been running.....where Hillary is strongest.

Yes the NW...from SF all the way to Seattle Sanders is going to absolutely fucking slaughter Clinton so bad her great grand kids will be ass hurt about it.

The longer this goes on the closer it looks like LA/NYC are going to decide who is the nominee for D.

Lots of D delegates....lots of huge corporate 1% dick sucking D delegates who hate poor people even more than republicans, they love Clinton.

Given that Jews make up less than two percent of the population one has to wonder why so much energy is spent courting them.

Batshit evangelicals.

Simply stating that in raw numbers pulling 20% of the African American vote or 10% of the Latino Vote> 100% of the Jewish Vote.

That would be the rational train of thought.

But that's never stopped (R)'s from going fucking hysterical about Jews, who loves them who hates them, Israel can do no wrong ever, give them all the money and all the weapons fuck America.

 

[JackLuis]

VIDEO: CNBC Anchors Shocked When Real Life Gordon Gekko Says Vote Bernie

CNBC Wall Street Anchors shocked by the truth of economics? Maybe they cut class when the Velocity of Money was discussed in their Econ 101 class?

Asher Edelman, an investor who was one of the inspirations for the nefarious corporate raider Gordon Gekko in the movie "Wall Street," made a surprise presidential endorsement on CNBC's Fast Money last week.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

A quick google tells me that like most minorities Jews vote Democrat. Obama getting a mere 69% vs Romney was the worst showing since Dukakis (67) and Mondale (64) with Carter's 1980 run being the only time Democrats haven't carried the Jewish vote since Cox in 1920. (And no, I have no clue who Cox is so go ahead and make fun of me.)

Given that Jews make up less than two percent of the population one has to wonder why so much energy is spent courting them. I don't mean to claim their opinions aren't valid. Simply stating that in raw numbers pulling 20% of the African American vote or 10% of the Latino Vote> 100% of the Jewish Vote.

Governor James M. Cox of Ohio. His running mate was then Assistant Secretary of the Navy, you guessed it, Franklin D. Roosevelt. The main issue was entry into the League of Nations. Republican Senator Warren G. Harding called for a "return to normalcy," the country was tired of war (after less than two years of it, imagine what they'd say about the Iraq War back then), and the GOP won hands-down. The United States never did join the League of Nations.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Governor James M. Cox of Ohio. His running mate was then Assistant Secretary of the Navy, you guessed it, Franklin D. Roosevelt. The main issue was entry into the League of Nations. Republican Senator Warren G. Harding called for a "return to normalcy," the country was tired of war (after less than two years of it, imagine what they'd say about the Iraq War back then), and the GOP won hands-down. The United States never did join the League of Nations.

And Harding was one of the worst pres. in History, not just because of the League.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Governor James M. Cox of Ohio. His running mate was then Assistant Secretary of the Navy, you guessed it, Franklin D. Roosevelt. The main issue was entry into the League of Nations. Republican Senator Warren G. Harding called for a "return to normalcy," the country was tired of war (after less than two years of it, imagine what they'd say about the Iraq War back then), and the GOP won hands-down. The United States never did join the League of Nations.

That was a real war not a political maneuver. There is a difference between your 18 year olds being drafted and sent over seas and did we do rationing or anything like that for WWI? I know we did for WWII. And Iraq where a bunch of volunteers go off to the desert. I'm not sure they would give a shit about Iraq back them anymore than we do now.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I found Bernie more attractive after watching this:

The Young Turks: Sanders vs. Obama

 

[JackLuis]

I found Bernie more attractive after watching this:

The Young Turks: Sanders vs. Obama

I liked this one.

Why President Obama Is Supporting Hillary Clinton Over Bernie Sanders

It shows the "Liberal Limitations of Obama." He's not that committed to changing a system that worked out great for him.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I liked this one.

Why President Obama Is Supporting Hillary Clinton Over Bernie Sanders

It shows the "Liberal Limitations of Obama." He's not that committed to changing a system that worked out great for him.

That is a good video. But my take on Obama is different -- I think he was a Trojan horse.

And he calls Hillary "idealistic and progressive."

 

[sr71plt]

I didn't realize that Obama was supporting Hillary much over anyone else.

 

[JackLuis]

I didn't realize that Obama was supporting Hillary much over anyone else.

He's very careful to not tarnish Hillary's chances, but he is still a Chicago Machine Politician who knows which side of the Lecture Fees scale he wants to be on for the next 30 years, like Slick Willy. He's doing as he's told, but I don't think his heart is in it.