Bernie!

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Sanders debuts 4-minute ad featuring daughter of New York man who died in police chokehold
Washington Post - ‎2 hours ago‎



Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders on Thursday released a four-minute advertisement featuring the oldest daughter of Eric Garner, whose death in New York in a police chokehold helped inspire the Black Lives Matter movement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...of-new-york-man-who-died-in-police-chokehold/

 

[RUlookingup]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...of-new-york-man-who-died-in-police-chokehold/

After consultation with Al Sharpton this is your strategy. Maybe you're not so smart after all Bernie.

 

[JackLuis]

Bernie Sanders to Colbert: Electing me is a win-win — I’d be president and Bill O’Reilly would leave US

It a Win Win!

Vote for Sanders South Carolina!

 

[NeonSubtlety]

Some recent polls suggest the gap is pretty massive in SC. After seeing a record-setting performance in New Hampshire, some polls suggest we might see something similar in favor of Hillary.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Some recent polls suggest the gap is pretty massive in SC. After seeing a record-setting performance in New Hampshire, some polls suggest we might see something similar in favor of Hillary.

Silly Hilly does have a big lead. http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-south-carolina-presidential-democratic-primary

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Sanders narrows the gap in South Carolina

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...443-sanders-narrows-the-gap-in-south-carolina

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sanders narrows the gap in South Carolina

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...443-sanders-narrows-the-gap-in-south-carolina

Yet all the delegates and bullshitters are just totally fucking ignoring the guy.

He could be pulling 100% of votes....HRC would still win the nomination.

If she doesn't end up doing hard time at Martha's Vineyard she's going to be put in office in the most blatant display of fuck the voters this country has ever seen.

LOL and people wonder why I don't bother voting......shit's a fucking joke.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yet all the delegates and bullshitters are just totally fucking ignoring the guy.

He could be pulling 100% of votes....HRC would still win the nomination.

If she doesn't end up doing hard time at Martha's Vineyard she's going to be put in office in the most blatant display of fuck the voters this country has ever seen.

LOL and people wonder why I don't bother voting......shit's a fucking joke.

He's not being ignored. There are hundreds of articles about him, including the one you linked to. Bernie is just a lot less popular with the voters than his main rival. If HRC does go to prison, as she should, the Dems will probably draft Biden. They know Bernie is a sure loser.

 

[sr71plt]

There's always Kerry.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Niether of those are options. If HRC ends up in prison which she shouldn't and in all likelihood will not because lets face it if there was a smoking gun they would (or should) have used it by now. Republicans are remarkably adroit about snatching defeat from the looming jaws of victory. However Biden and Kerry are not realistic options. The people as a whole may not be informed to the level that we would like BUT they are not blind. HRC going to prison and the only other man in the race not getting the nomination would be an utter revolt. You'd see a landslide victory not seen in decades for the Republicans. Don't get wrong, I don't believe Biden can beat anybody not named Trump but this is the difference between going down fighting and hoping for a miracle and straight out committing suicide.

 

[BotanyBoy]

He's not being ignored. There are hundreds of articles about him, including the one you linked to. Bernie is just a lot less popular with the voters than his main rival. If HRC does go to prison, as she should, the Dems will probably draft Biden. They know Bernie is a sure loser.

Bernie is winning the vote...but he's not getting the delegates. Delegates aren't even waiting for the vote before they just give voters the finger and nominate HRC against the vote of the people.

The people want Bernie, the establishment is point blank saying "Fuck that shit, fuck you people and fuck your votes you'll take HRC and like it." and we will.....

Point blank proof your vote means FUCK ALL.

Niether of those are options. If HRC ends up in prison which she shouldn't and in all likelihood will not because lets face it if there was a smoking gun they would (or should) have used it by now. Republicans are remarkably adroit about snatching defeat from the looming jaws of victory. However Biden and Kerry are not realistic options. The people as a whole may not be informed to the level that we would like BUT they are not blind. HRC going to prison and the only other man in the race not getting the nomination would be an utter revolt. You'd see a landslide victory not seen in decades for the Republicans. Don't get wrong, I don't believe Biden can beat anybody not named Trump but this is the difference between going down fighting and hoping for a miracle and straight out committing suicide.

So fuck the voters because the delegates know better......lol wow.

We really deserve the crooked piece of shit government we have.

 

[Sean Renaud]

No, not fuck the voters. My comment was entirely centered on this myth that Biden and whomever else are waiting in the wings.

I hate that the Super Delegates even exist but that falls under it is what is and I'm not sure how loud I'd be bitching if I wasn't losing.

Besides at the end of the day I don't believe Bernie WILL receieve a majority of voters. He is far too liberal for mainstream America. Which kinda makes the Super Delegates move seem odd to me. It's not like Hillary has a squeaky clean image, so having this look like she rigged it is simply not in her favor. Better to play as nice as humanly possible. I mean the kind of nice that has you screaming It's a traaaaap but what exactly are you gonna do when Grandma bakes you cookies, lays out a cup of hot cocoa and asks if you'd like to play Call of Duty with her?

But the election process is outdated stupid barely functional and probably unfixable. I mean at the end of the day we can look at the presidential electoral maps post WWII and make a fairly strong argument that diminished as our power is once CA and NY make a decision we get our way unless damn near everybody unites against us. Do you really think all those fly over states are going to willingly give up their absurd control over our country to people of New York values and granola eating hippies? Cus you know when someone brought up a Civil War I laughed, but robbing those people of their (very much undeserved power) is definitely on the list of things that could potentially set it off.

PS: The delegates almost definitely do know better in the same way a CEO or General knows better than line worker or a grunt. There is something to be said for perspective.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, not fuck the voters. My comment was entirely centered on this myth that Biden and whomever else are waiting in the wings.

Ahh ok.

I hate that the Super Delegates even exist but that falls under it is what is and I'm not sure how loud I'd be bitching if I wasn't losing.

Besides at the end of the day I don't believe Bernie WILL receieve a majority of voters.

So if the trend continues and most democrats voted for Sanders but HRC has 98% of the delegates what then?

How do you reconcile the fact that the DNC is point blank blowing the voters off in arguably the largest "fuck you Muricuh!-DNC" possible??

PS: The delegates almost definitely do know better in the same way a CEO or General knows better than line worker or a grunt. There is something to be said for perspective.

I understand, but their job is to represent the people is it not?

As it stands Bernie is winning the popular vote, Hillary has practically every single delegate....there is something HORRIBLY wrong with that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't think it's possible for Bernie to get a majority. I think something curious happened in New Hampshire but I don't see any path to victory once he gets out of the North East uber liberal states.

The Superdelegates don't actually have the power to do what you're fearing here and a quick glance over at wikipedia and other searches tells us that the Super Delegates are ultimately more tiebreakers who for whatever reason have decided to move extremely early.

There are 4047 delegates in total of which 794 are are super delegates. Which means 3253 of them have to do what we say regardless of if they like it or not. Some quick math tells me that if EVERY SINGLE super delegate told the voters to fuck off (which as much as I hate it, tis their right until such a time as the rules are altered) HRC could win with as little as 30% of the vote.

I think that would effectively cause a goddamn riot amongst the voters however. So then the question becomes what is an appropriate time for the generals to step in and tell the rabble that we appreciate your input but we'd rather you be a little huffy with us and us win the election than for us to get trounced because we knew you were making a bad call. 50% 49%. . . .it sure as fuck isn't 30% or even 40% but anything north of there and it starts getting iffy. Again this is their job, I don't believe they should exist but that's not the world I live in. And in the world I live in it seems obvious that their purpose is to keep me from shooting myself in the dick with with Bernie/Warren ticket.

And of course the closer it gets the fewer Super Delegates have to think and move as a single machine. I mean it would never happen but I can't find a rule in place for what happens in a hypothetical 50/50 split other than eventually someone takes a knee.

 

[JackLuis]

Bernie Sanders hilariously mocks Donald Trump for being the ‘greatest everything’

Sanders reminded the crowd that Trump’s presumed “greatness” extends to his knowledge of science, which includes climate change. “And one of his major scientific contributions in recent years has been to proclaim that climate change is a hoax. Now, for Republican candidates, this is not an unusual idea, but [Trump] added something to it, being the brilliant scientist that he is: That this hoax was created by the Chinese!”

Trump has attempted to walk back his previous Tweets that climate change was invented by China, but he has a long history demonstrating that he is the furthest thing from a scientist. Trump said on Fox News and Tweeted a claim that extreme winter weather was evidence that climate scientists don’t know what they’re talking about. He thinks vaccines cause autism. He’s also a self-professed expert on Ebola.

Trump assailed from Right and Left!

 

[about_average]

PS: The delegates almost definitely do know better in the same way a CEO or General knows better than line worker or a grunt.

That's not always the case. The Bank of America CEO thought he knew better buying Country Wide. General Lee thought he knew better attacking Cemetery Ridge.
There are plenty of other examples. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
Or maybe that's what you meant.

 

[NeonSubtlety]

The super delegates would go with Bernie if he's getting the popular vote. He's a divisive-enough candidate that they know overruling the electorate would splinter any moderate support the Democratic Party had earned through his proposals.

Bernie going to general might be bad for the DNC; the inevitable fracture caused by a superdel schism would be worse. I'm much less worried about that than I am Bernie actually winning the candidacy -- which is looking like a real outside chance. But maybe the momentum can build faster than it looks like it is to me.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't think it's possible for Bernie to get a majority. I think something curious happened in New Hampshire but I don't see any path to victory once he gets out of the North East uber liberal states.

Why? The fact that he tied (I've seen several articles saying he won) Iowa speaks VOLUMES!!

He's got the left coast Sans LA....which might be enough to negate the rest of them by giving CA to Hillary. But they might be far more shocking of a Sanders win than what we have seen so far.

There are 4047 delegates in total of which 794 are are super delegates. Which means 3253 of them have to do what we say regardless of if they like it or not. Some quick math tells me that if EVERY SINGLE super delegate told the voters to fuck off (which as much as I hate it, tis their right until such a time as the rules are altered) HRC could win with as little as 30% of the vote.

That's what I'm talking about, that's straight up crony fuckin' bullshit.

And I would hope if that happens we would riot over it....that's some riot worthy shit.

 

[sr71plt]

This presupposes that every voter would be for Sanders and every superdelegate would be for Hillary, which is just ridiculous. Sorry, no way you slice it, the Bernie folks are trying to depict the "now" in airy fairy terms. Something may turn the boat around for Sanders, but it's not happening until/unless a miracle drops for him on Super Tuesday. You might check what the odds makers, rather than his wishful thinkers, say about that likelihood.

 

[BotanyBoy]

This presupposes that every voter would be for Sanders and every superdelegate would be for Hillary, which is just ridiculous.

But it could happen.

Sorry, no way you slice it, the Bernie folks are trying to depict the "now" in airy fairy terms. Something may turn the boat around for Sanders,

It doesn't have to turn around, it just hast to keep going. Unless the Super delegates decide "Fuck that and fuck the voter, you'll take HRC and like it. " Sanders is doing quite well so far, well enough that he stands a good chance of winning the popular vote over HRC.

It's the elites vote he's not getting....Hillary has those.

but it's not happening until/unless a miracle drops for him on Super Tuesday. You might check what the odds makers, rather than his wishful thinkers, say about that likelihood.

You mean a miracle like super delegates representing the voters instead of the elite billionaires club??

Yea that would be a miracle....

 

[sr71plt]

But it could happen.

No it couldn't. Use your brain.

Also, the whole assessment of super delegates revolves around who can win in November--they are looking at the long term and the end goal, something far too many voters don't/aren't do/doing. If the voters are ALL for Bernie, as in your ridiculous scenario, the super delegates won't be ignoring that in their assessment.

Grow a brain. Don't be such a shallow thinker.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes it COULD happen. And the DNC could end in a tie resulting in the the Republican running unapposed. As far as I can tell there is absolutely no law DEMANDING that a president not run unnaposed. It just doesn't happen.

Again we would need virtually every human to go Bernie 70% give or take (blah blah delegates aren't proportioned exactly fairly just like in the election.) but lets see where Super Tuesday falls before we start counting chickens.

 

[sr71plt]

Obviously you two are clueless about the super delegate system. It's utterly ridiculous and airy fairy thinking that all voters in primaries would turn completely from Hillary to vote for Bernie if Hillary were still in the race. It's stupid to put such a lamebrain position forward. It's equally ridiculous and airy fairy thinking that all super delegates would vote for Hillary if all primary voters voted for Bernie with Hillary still in the race. How could you be so lamebrained on that supposition?

I declare there are a lot of folks on this forum who only use a tenth of their brain and knee jerk their shallow thoughts. I'd suggest that some of you give attempts at talking politics here a pass and concentrate on writing/reading erotic, but most of you aren't even aware that this is a porn short story site either.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes it COULD happen. Again we would need virtually every human to go Bernie 70% give or take

To get the elite (D)'s to even recognize him? LOL I agree....voter support is going to have to be fuckin PISSED....god damn SCATHING towards establishment (D) for Sanders to have a chance. Even then I doubt seriously he would get shit, they would prob just assasinate his ass and call it a heart attack "Ohh look isn't that convenient!!"

Wall St and SR71PLT win!!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02831/Clinton1web_2831249b.jpg

but lets see where Super Tuesday falls before we start counting chickens.

True....

I still think (D) will straight give their voters the finger for HRC. Or I should say it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they did.

No it couldn't.

Yes....it could, that's a fact and none of your name calling nor eyeresque shit talk will change that.

Also, the whole assessment of super delegates revolves around who can win in November--they are looking at the long term and the end goal, something far too many voters don't/aren't do/doing. If the voters are ALL for Bernie, as in your ridiculous scenario, the super delegates won't be ignoring that in their assessment.

Like I said, it's a big 'fuck you' to democracy from the democrats.....it's as bad as Republicans suing CO for weed then turning around and bitching about states rights.

Now that it's obvious you're an pro crony establishment (D)ick sucker for Hillary why don't you just vote Republican? They fucking hate voters too....

Use your brain.
Grow a brain. Don't be such a shallow thinker

Says the guy batting for Wall St. LOL

I will just as soon as you pull yours out of Hillary (R) Clinton's ass you gutless fuckin POG.

Obviously you two are clueless about the super delegate system. It's utterly ridiculous and airy fairy thinking that all voters in primaries would turn completely from Hillary to vote for Bernie if Hillary were still in the race. It's stupid to put such a lamebrain position forward. It's equally ridiculous and airy fairy thinking that all super delegates would vote for Hillary if all primary voters voted for Bernie with Hillary still in the race. How could you be so lamebrained on that supposition?

You need to learn how to read, no one except you is saying that.

4est.....eyer??? izzat YOU??

I declare there are a lot of folks on this forum who only use a tenth of their brain and knee jerk their shallow thoughts.

No shit right....

I'd suggest that some of you give attempts at talking politics here a pass and concentrate on writing/reading erotic, but most of you aren't even aware that this is a porn short story site either.

Maybe if the porn short stories didn't come off as written by glue eating illiterate chairforce morons we just might...maybe... be more aware.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Obviously you two are clueless about the super delegate system. It's utterly ridiculous and airy fairy thinking that all voters in primaries would turn completely from Hillary to vote for Bernie if Hillary were still in the race. It's stupid to put such a lamebrain position forward. It's equally ridiculous and airy fairy thinking that all super delegates would vote for Hillary if all primary voters voted for Bernie with Hillary still in the race. How could you be so lamebrained on that supposition?

I declare there are a lot of folks on this forum who only use a tenth of their brain and knee jerk their shallow thoughts. I'd suggest that some of you give attempts at talking politics here a pass and concentrate on writing/reading erotic, but most of you aren't even aware that this is a porn short story site either.

I know exactly how it works and that's been my point. And it wouldn't take all voters. Bernie needs 71% in the radical world where the Super Delegates all go Hllary. I have not one suggested that it will so much as it's a possibility. Ranking up there with the Democrats simply refusing to field a candidate.