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[gxnn]

I regret that Taiwan has been involved and would become the target of Hezbollah's revenge.

China's large number of users of iphones, Boeing and Tesla have been alerted and made uneasy seeing the tragic events in Lebanon. Who knows when they will become explosives to kill them? They were not convinced that iphones of Russian users had been turned into a useless brick after the Russian-Ukraine conflict. The sales volume of homemade cell phones such as Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Honor are likely to rise, while the market for iphones looks bleak.

In Romance of the Three Kingdoms, one of the famous four classic novels in China, there is a scene that a general of Kingdom Wu made a surprise attack in disguise of tradesmen wearing white clothes on the army of Kingdom Shu. Such a tactic has set a very bad example in the military practice, because Kingdom Shu believes that tradesmen are always neutral and entitled to free movement even at war times. So Kingdom Wu is called Generation of Rats in history till now even they captured the invincible general of Kingdom Shu.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

It’s not Hamas. It’s Hezbollah, a completely different groups of terrorists attacking Israel.

Not so different.

Same sponsor.

Same tactics.

Same goals.

Kill the US.

Liberals are so freaking predictable in who they support and why.
https://forum.literotica.com/threads/igors-goat.1617370/

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Excuse me. I erred.

The Left. Not Liberals. They are faux Liberals like Hezb'Allah and the Mullahs are faux agents of god.

 

[Yarglenurp]

No, it is related to the US. We have troops in the Mideast, oil interests, and it’s part of the balance of power of the world.

On a religious level, the extreme antisemitism seen in the US goes against everything the US has stood for since its founding. The fact that congress members can materially support us govt recognized terrorist groups, is alarming. Israel is only the beginning, Iran wants the world to be Muslim, their sect is Islam.
Look at the Ivy League college campus occupier's signs and listen to their words, death to America, death to Christians is a common refrain. Don’t kid yourself that it’s only Jews they want to get rid of. When people tell you who they are, listen.
It’s like the battle of Tours all over again.

We have troops everywhere. By that logic, there isn’t a single thing happening anywhere we wouldn’t give a shit about. I will reiterate, Americans don’t live there, Americans at best have strategic interests with both sides, and I just see no reason to give a shit while America is dealing with Trump-worshippers.

The extreme antisemitism is mostly from the right, not a handful of college kids. A bunch of dumbass kids yelling is nowhere close to killings or burning of synagogues. I won’t pretend that both sides are equally bad.

You’re right about “people telling you who they are.” That’s trump-worshippers spinning and sane-washing the horrific agenda that Trump, the federalist society, and project 2025 have for America. Trump himself wants to loot the government for all it’s worth. His closest supporters want to turn the US into a Evangelical Taliban and break democracy at its root. Under their rule, the US would turn into nothing more than another de facto dictatorship.

As for not stopping with Jews, that’s part is true with respect to how Trump-worshippers seek to demonize all non-white, non-evangelicals. Only just this week, their VP nominee, Vance, proudly declared that he’s completely willing to lie and make up stories about Haitian refugees eating people’s pets to forward his agenda. There is no question which side is anti-American, anti-truth, and anti-human in general. Trump-worshippers are the great evil of our times, no different from Stalin, Hitler, or Pol Pot.

God bless America, he will help us destroy Trump and trump-worshippers at the root.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Antisemitism is coming from the right.

lol

It just keeps getting better!

 

[JoePepsiCo]

So much for changing the rhetoric to not incite the crazies.

I see, by that last post that Trump is still Hitler,

... and aborting Hitler before he was born would have been a moral act just like killing him before he can grab power, like he did the last time and then he tried to destroy Israel and get their fucking Capitol out of Jerusalem so Hamas could run the region and the Jihad again the Great Satan from there.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Remember.

They have oil and are willing to go get it. That gives them cash. Money is power.

We have oil too damnit! We just refuse to go get it to save the planet...,



... for Islam, I guess.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

What will blow up today?

Knock-off Rolexes™?



Achmed. Where'd your hand go?
It was a great deal!

 

[JoePepsiCo]

One more thing for all of you right people on the issues over on the Left...

(Let them noodle that one out, like Bilbo's farewell address, which they never got.)

✯✡︎ We buy a lot of electronics from China.
If Israel can do it to Hezb'Allah, China can do it to US. ✡︎✯​

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

We have troops everywhere. By that logic, there isn’t a single thing happening anywhere we wouldn’t give a shit about. I will reiterate, Americans don’t live there, Americans at best have strategic interests with both sides, and I just see no reason to give a shit while America is dealing with Trump-worshippers.

The extreme antisemitism is mostly from the right, not a handful of college kids. A bunch of dumbass kids yelling is nowhere close to killings or burning of synagogues. I won’t pretend that both sides are equally bad.

You’re right about “people telling you who they are.” That’s trump-worshippers spinning and sane-washing the horrific agenda that Trump, the federalist society, and project 2025 have for America. Trump himself wants to loot the government for all it’s worth. His closest supporters want to turn the US into a Evangelical Taliban and break democracy at its root. Under their rule, the US would turn into nothing more than another de facto dictatorship.

As for not stopping with Jews, that’s part is true with respect to how Trump-worshippers seek to demonize all non-white, non-evangelicals. Only just yesterday, their VP nominee, Vance, that he’s completely willing to lie and make up stories about Haitian refugees eating people’s pets to forward his agenda. There is no question which side is anti-American, anti-truth, and anti-human in general. Trump-worshippers are the great evil of our times, no different from Stalin, Hitler, or Pol Pot.

God bless America, he will help us destroy Trump and trump-worshippers at the root.

We need to be clear-eyed about the strong stream of antisemitism on the left. Honestly, I think the campus protests were stoked by Russia to aid Donald Trump by dividing us at a time when we should be united.

Vigorous protests against Israel erupted instantly after the October 7th massacre, before the IDF even had time to respond to the attack. At the time it felt like they had been planned in advance, instead of emerging organically.

Israel is not an apartheid state. It is not committing genocide. It is a small liberal democracy surrounded by hostile neighbors. If it wasn’t the only majority-Jewish state in the world it wouldn’t be scrutinized the way it is. Its every act of self-defense wouldn’t be put under the microscope.

The world has been silent for a year while Israel has been subject to a continuous rocket barrage from Hezbollah, when its forests have been in flames, while 70,000 Israelis have been forced to flee their homes and dozens have been killed. When Israel retaliates, the anti-Zionists fulminate about civilian casualties and the danger of “escalation”.

The United States should support Israel for the same reason it should support Ukraine. It’s in our interest to stand up against aggression, against smaller countries being attacked by their neighbors. Usually the American left agrees with these ideals, but they have a blind spot when it comes to the Jews, and that’s a weakness that can be exploited by the people who want Trump to win.

 

[ll74]

Always fun to see people convert to terrorism because they "had to"....and now have moved on to "it's the only way" to beat them is by playing their own game.

Guess it's.good that we only used two nukes in world war 2.

 

[Rebel5soul]

So much for changing the rhetoric to not incite the crazies.

I see, by that last post that Trump is still Hitler,

... and aborting Hitler before he was born would have been a moral act just like killing him before he can grab power, like he did the last time and then he tried to destroy Israel and get their fucking Capitol out of Jerusalem so Hamas could run the region and the Jihad again the Great Satan from there.

Amazing how anything deemed bad is somehow tied back to Trump. Pretzel logic. Hell, even if it's a good thing it will be redefined as bad and laid at his door step.

 

[Lazaran]

I guarantee the innocent civilians in Lebanon much prefer how Israel dealt with Hezbollah over the way Israel dealt with Hamas.

Of course, the ball is now in Hezbollah’s court, and they could probably convince Israel to "Gaza-fy" Lebanon if they chose to.

Iran could do the same.

Israel is done with the gray -zone warfare and being boiled like a frog. (And Netanyahu, etc, undoubtedly benefit from a larger protracted war in the region.)

It is NOT a good time to be provoking Israel, imho.

 

[Lazaran]

I regret that Taiwan has been involved and would become the target of Hezbollah's revenge.

China's large number of users of iphones, Boeing and Tesla have been alerted and made uneasy seeing the tragic events in Lebanon. Who knows when they will become explosives to kill them? They were not convinced that iphones of Russian users had been turned into a useless brick after the Russian-Ukraine conflict. The sales volume of homemade cell phones such as Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Honor are likely to rise, while the market for iphones looks bleak.

In Romance of the Three Kingdoms, one of the famous four classic novels in China, there is a scene that a general of Kingdom Wu made a surprise attack in disguise of tradesmen wearing white clothes on the army of Kingdom Shu. Such a tactic has set a very bad example in the military practice, because Kingdom Shu believes that tradesmen are always neutral and entitled to free movement even at war times. So Kingdom Wu is called Generation of Rats in history till now even they captured the invincible general of Kingdom Shu.

Maybe gynn the CCP troll bot should educate itself about the particulars of this event:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hezbollahs-exploding-pagers-made-hungarian-123921555.html



Taiwan wasn’t involved in any meaningful way.



Hope that ^ helps.



gynn the CCP troll bot

 

[Yarglenurp]

We need to be clear-eyed about the strong stream of antisemitism on the left. Honestly, I think the campus protests were stoked by Russia to aid Donald Trump by dividing us at a time when we should be united.

Vigorous protests against Israel erupted instantly after the October 7th massacre, before the IDF even had time to respond to the attack. At the time it felt like they had been planned in advance, instead of emerging organically.

Israel is not an apartheid state. It is not committing genocide. It is a small liberal democracy surrounded by hostile neighbors. If it wasn’t the only majority-Jewish state in the world it wouldn’t be scrutinized the way it is. Its every act of self-defense wouldn’t be put under the microscope.

The world has been silent for a year while Israel has been subject to a continuous rocket barrage from Hezbollah, when its forests have been in flames, while 70,000 Israelis have been forced to flee their homes and dozens have been killed. When Israel retaliates, the anti-Zionists fulminate about civilian casualties and the danger of “escalation”.

The United States should support Israel for the same reason it should support Ukraine. It’s in our interest to stand up against aggression, against smaller countries being attacked by their neighbors. Usually the American left agrees with these ideals, but they have a blind spot when it comes to the Jews, and that’s a weakness that can be exploited by the people who want Trump to win.

I take no sides simply because it’s not apparent to me that this is something worth investing thought into. Are there anti-Semitic people on the left? Sure. But there are far more on the trump-right, and those people pose a far greater threat to the Jewish people I care about, i.e., the people here who happen to be Jewish. A bunch of low-GPA college poli-sci majors ruining their own futures is objectively less threatening to America than the KKK and the rest of the trump-right.

The US does support israel for being the only friendly non-Muslim power in the region, and I personally have no problem with it any more than I have with the US supporting the Saudis for their oil or the Indians for their massive marketplace potential. I don’t think it makes sense to think of it beyond that point so long as Trump-worshippers control so much of America.

My focus is on the US. Trump and trump-worshippers are an existential threat to the people living in the US and their actions threaten to plunge us all into a low-grade civil war that will only end with the destruction of America. They must be stopped and uprooted in every way possible from the US so that our children can be free from the dire threat trump-worshippers pose to the stability and strength of the American people.

 

[Lazaran]

I take no sides simply because it’s not apparent to me that this is something worth investing thought into. Are there anti-Semitic people on the left? Sure. But there are far more on the trump-right, and those people pose a far greater threat to the Jewish people I care about, i.e., the people here who happen to be Jewish. A bunch of low-GPA college poli-sci majors ruining their own futures is objectively less threatening to America than the KKK and the rest of the trump-right.

The US does support israel for being the only friendly non-Muslim power in the region, and I personally have no problem with it any more than I have with the US supporting the Saudis for their oil or the Indians for their massive marketplace potential. I don’t think it makes sense to think of it beyond that point so long as Trump-worshippers control so much of America.

My focus is on the US. Trump and trump-worshippers are an existential threat to the people living in the US and their actions threaten to plunge us all into a low-grade civil war that will only end with the destruction of America. They must be stopped and uprooted in every way possible from the US so that our children can be free from the dire threat trump-worshippers pose to the stability and strength of the American people.

Your point is valid:

DonOld and the MAGAts are the priority threat right now.

If DonOld and the MAGAt "republicans" win, then the whole free world (including Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, etc) loses.

“Priorities”.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I take no sides simply because it’s not apparent to me that this is something worth investing thought into. Are there anti-Semitic people on the left? Sure. But there are far more on the trump-right, and those people pose a far greater threat to the Jewish people I care about, i.e., the people here who happen to be Jewish. A bunch of low-GPA college poli-sci majors ruining their own futures is objectively less threatening to America than the KKK and the rest of the trump-right.

The US does support israel for being the only friendly non-Muslim power in the region, and I personally have no problem with it any more than I have with the US supporting the Saudis for their oil or the Indians for their massive marketplace potential. I don’t think it makes sense to think of it beyond that point so long as Trump-worshippers control so much of America.

My focus is on the US. Trump and trump-worshippers are an existential threat to the people living in the US and their actions threaten to plunge us all into a low-grade civil war that will only end with the destruction of America. They must be stopped and uprooted in every way possible from the US so that our children can be free from the dire threat trump-worshippers pose to the stability and strength of the American people.

The antisemitic people on the right aren’t vandalizing college campuses and synagogues and harassing Jews trying to get to class or attend services. They’re not smashing the windows of Jewish businesses.

It appalls me that the primary threat to Jews in America right now is coming from anti-Zionists on the left. Jews and African Americans are the two most reliable Democratic voting blocks. Alienating the Jews right now by vilifying Israel fractures party unity at a time when we need everyone pulling together to defeat fascism.

 

[Yarglenurp]

The antisemitic people on the right aren’t vandalizing college campuses and synagogues and harassing Jews trying to get to class or attend services. They’re not smashing the windows of Jewish businesses.

It appalls me that the primary threat to Jews in America right now is coming from anti-Zionists on the left. Jews and African Americans are the two most reliable Democratic voting blocks. Alienating the Jews right now by vilifying Israel fractures party unity at a time when we need everyone pulling together to defeat fascism.

Yes, and that’s because college campuses tend to have a lot more people on the left. The antisemitic people on the right are murdering Jews and burning non-college synagogues because they tend to do shit that doesn’t involve college at all. This is one of those mental traps that the trump-right try to bring up to show that “they’re not so bad.”

People on the left also condemn and imprison these purveyors of hate. Before Trump, the right had no problem doing this either. However, The trump-right encourage these acts of chaos and hatred because it destroys the fabric of society.

Additionally, I am also not sure if “left” and “right” are the correct forms for hard Muslim sub-cultures with antisemitic leanings. Those guys are far more right-wing than most, and would probably be considered a trump-worshipper’s dream demographic if they had the right skin color and would use the word “Jesus” instead of “Allah.” As far as I’m concerned, they’re just as much of a societal poison pill, but they’re not the ones with any political power in the US.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Yes, and that’s because college campuses tend to have a lot more people on the left. The antisemitic people on the right are murdering Jews and burning non-college synagogues because they tend to do shit that doesn’t involve college at all. This is one of those mental traps that the trump-right try to bring up to show that “they’re not so bad.”

People on the left also condemn and imprison these purveyors of hate. Before Trump, the right had no problem doing this either. However, The trump-right encourage these acts of chaos and hatred because it destroys the fabric of society.

Additionally, I am also not sure if “left” and “right” are the correct forms for hard Muslim sub-cultures with antisemitic leanings. Those guys are far more right-wing than most, and would probably be considered a trump-worshipper’s dream demographic if they had the right skin color and would use the word “Jesus” instead of “Allah.” As far as I’m concerned, they’re just as much of a societal poison pill, but they’re not the ones with any political power in the US.

It should be easy for people on the left to support Israel against Hamas and Hezbollah, instead we get people in keffiyahs chanting “from the river to the sea” and railing against “Genocide Joe”

I do agree that the right also has a major problem with antisemitism. But the fact is that right now most of the attacks on Jews are coming from the anti-Zionist left.

 

[Yarglenurp]

It should be easy for people on the left to support Israel against Hamas and Hezbollah, instead we get people in keffiyahs chanting “from the river to the sea” and railing against “Genocide Joe”

I do agree that the right also has a major problem with antisemitism. But the fact is that right now most of the attacks on Jews are coming from the anti-Zionist left.

I think you expect too much of people as a whole, tbh. You’re talking about hundreds of millions of people. I would be shocked if everyone on either side knew how to wipe their own ass correctly, let alone have the time, intelligence, and inclination to tread the moral path. Throw in a mix of foreign policy and religious overtones, you’re almost bound to get disagreement.

My view is that if you can get people to just focus on keeping sane governance in their own country and letting people do whatever they want so long as it’s not hurting others, that’s a win. There will always be psychopaths who will adopt a flag as an excuse to hurt people. The best we can realistically do is to destroy them when we can find them. However, the trump-right encourages these psychopaths and integrates them into their cause while desecrating the learned and accomplished.

We’re dangerously close to regressing into a neo-feudal evangelical taliban that will destroy the American people’s access to science and medical technology. This cannot be allowed to happen. The Israelis dont’t seem particularly concerned about Trump worshippers, so I don’t see their interests aligning with ours beyond the basic tenets of supporting foreign allies so that America’s interests are protected in that region.

I’d point out that middle-east talking points are exactly what the trump-right wants… infighting amongst normal people over things that do not affect the lives of the average American people. As attention is diverted, they can hoard power and money for themselves. We should not be distracted. Find the trump-worshipper, destroy the trump-worshipper.

 

[Lazaran]

It should be easy for people on the left to support Israel against Hamas and Hezbollah, instead we get people in keffiyahs chanting “from the river to the sea” and railing against “Genocide Joe”

I do agree that the right also has a major problem with antisemitism. But the fact is that right now most of the attacks on Jews are coming from the anti-Zionist left.

Careful with that broad brush of “the left”, because the right considers someone like me AND you “the left”.

The portion of “the left” on campuses, etc, that is truly “anti-Zionist (as opposed to anti: war; death; suffering, and destruction) is relatively minute, and it is NOT representative of what many consider “the left” (Democrats).

I have argued repeatedly that the TRUE anti-Zionists on “the left” are ACTUALLY far more aligned with the Chrsto-fascist right wing "republicans".

I would also argue that many on “the left” just want the suffering, death, and destruction to stop - from all parties - and they see appealing to the United States government / people and the Israeli government / people as the logical targets of their efforts. (It is rather pointless to appeal to terrorists to be reasonable.)

Unfortunately, there is a confluence of factors - 10/7, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Netanyahu’s legal issues, the right wing in Israel, etc - that make the anti-war(etc) left’s appeals to restraint and conciliation seem almost quaint.

The post you responded to is fairly spot on, imho. It may not be perfectly spot on, (like SevMax2 demands) but it’s close enough, imho.

 

[Buffalogurl]

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How does someone blow up home solar systems?

 

[Yarglenurp]

How does someone blow up home solar systems?

Home death stars

 

[Buffalogurl]

I think you expect too much of people as a whole, tbh. You’re talking about hundreds of millions of people. I would be shocked if everyone on either side knew how to wipe their own ass correctly, let alone have the time, intelligence, and inclination to tread the moral path. Throw in a mix of foreign policy and religious overtones, you’re almost bound to get disagreement.

My view is that if you can get people to just focus on keeping sane governance in their own country and letting people do whatever they want so long as it’s not hurting others, that’s a win. There will always be psychopaths who will adopt a flag as an excuse to hurt people. The best we can realistically do is to destroy them when we can find them. However, the trump-right encourages these psychopaths and integrates them into their cause while desecrating the learned and accomplished.

We’re dangerously close to regressing into a neo-feudal evangelical taliban that will destroy the American people’s access to science and medical technology. This cannot be allowed to happen. The Israelis dont’t seem particularly concerned about Trump worshippers, so I don’t see their interests aligning with ours beyond the basic tenets of supporting foreign allies so that America’s interests are protected in that region.

I’d point out that middle-east talking points are exactly what the trump-right wants… infighting amongst normal people over things that do not affect the lives of the average American people. As attention is diverted, they can hoard power and money for themselves. We should not be distracted. Find the trump-worshipper, destroy the trump-worshipper.

Where on earth do you come with... "neo-feudal Evangelical taliban" that will destroy America? My people just want to be left alone (don't fuck with us) all of the Christians I know believe that the Jews are the apple of God's eye. Not to be fucked with..... I gotta ask what type of hallucinating dope are you consuming.... the "right" wants no part of war....it has always been the left/democrats that have lead us to war, just at present the Biden crime family is poking the bear, fighting the Russians to the last Ukrainian. President Putin will bring war to your front porch.....
We as Americans need/must mind our own affairs here at home.....

 

[ll74]

How does someone blow up home solar systems?

Anything with a battery.