Believe it or not...

[Blushing Bottom]

This kind of thing saddens me something awful. The guilt that shall surely ensue will bury them both for one reason or another. My concern is for the poor unborn child who will be yet another unwanted issue. Makes my blood boil.

 

[LeahLo519]

she didn't make him do anything - he was lazy and probably goes along with the whole "if I wear a condom I can't feel anything" bullshit line of thinking.

Yeah, she fooled him by pretending to take her pills when she wasn't, but he's the bigger fool for not protecting himself.

What's unfair isn't to him or to her, but to their child. Sure it sucks that he now has this responsibility that he wasn't wanting at this stage in his life, but that's what happens when you don't take the responsibility in making sure that it doesn't happen. A wise man once told me - "Never have sex with someone that you may not wish to ever marry, or to be a part of your life forever". It's sound.

The only time I would take care of the birthcontrol, and not use condoms in conjunction, would be if we were married - or in a very stable relationship for a long period of time. Other than that, we're going to double bag the situation.

I just don't have sex with anyone that I don't love. *shrug*

 

[bisexplicit]

I dunno bout all of that...

I wonder how many women here have ever worn a female condom...

Ya know how ya bitch about sex without an orgasm.....well there ya go. I hate condoms. I only wear them because I have to. And in a committed relationship I don't.

Seems like you're saying, 'Trust me but if I fuck you over it's your fault'.

That's like saying a person cheated on is at fault for being cheated on.

I agree. I think most people who are in committed relationships don't use condoms. And the fact is, at the moment there aren't any male birth control pills on the market.

For myself, I know I try to cut the risks, usually, by using things like VCF and the pill - but saying that its his fault for not using a condom seems a little crazy.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

The only time I would take care of the birthcontrol, and not use condoms in conjunction, would be if we were married - or in a very stable relationship for a long period of time. Other than that, we're going to double bag the situation.

What she said. I've gotten pregnant twice, on birth control. My lover and I, even while I was on the shot, always used condoms, just in case.

Now, I'm not on birth control hormones, for various health reasons, but we always are careful with our protection. I just.. *shaking my head* I can't believe people are so flippant with their BC.

 

[JinXed]

I dunno bout all of that...

I wonder how many women here have ever worn a female condom...

Ya know how ya bitch about sex without an orgasm.....well there ya go. I hate condoms. I only wear them because I have to. And in a committed relationship I don't.

Seems like you're saying, 'Trust me but if I fuck you over it's your fault'.

That's like saying a person cheated on is at fault for being cheated on.

Do you have a desensitized dick? Are your choice of condoms made of iron?
Do you think that women can't tell the difference between a condom covered cock vs. the flesh on flesh feeling?
Sure it does stop some feeling, but it isn't completely horrible and it's oh so much better than the alternatives.

 

[JinXed]

I just don't have sex with anyone that I don't love. *shrug*

I wasn't talking about you, but your guy friend.
Obviously he wasn't in love with her - he obviously was planning on breaking up with her yet still continued banging her.

 

[bill-pix-trade]

I just don't have sex with anyone that I don't love. *shrug*

NEVER EVER?

 

[rosco rathbone]

I dunno bout all of that...

I wonder how many women here have ever worn a female condom...

Ya know how ya bitch about sex without an orgasm.....well there ya go. I hate condoms. I only wear them because I have to. And in a committed relationship I don't.

Seems like you're saying, 'Trust me but if I fuck you over it's your fault'.

That's like saying a person cheated on is at fault for being cheated on.

Oh, I hate fucking condoms. Unfortunately, "I wanted to get off" is not an excuse for giving up control over your genetic sauce. I'm sure this is why oral sex is far and away my favorite practice.

Fault doesn't come into it. Once the seed goes into the womb; all bets are off. Don't shoot loads into anyone you wouldn't want to have kids with; and if you do, don't whinge about negative outcomes.

 

[capricious_chic]

I am with Jinxed on this one.

He was being as selfish as she by allowing her to fully control his destiny. I say selfish because what else can it be when one decides to let someone else be responsible for them.

He is the one responsible for his mess. He is to blame more than she because he allowed it to happen. What she did was reckless and juvenile - he allowed her to be so by not taking protection seriously enough to be responsible for it.
It would be a different story if she poked holes in the condom.

 

[JinXed]

but saying that its his fault for not using a condom seems a little crazy.

So he has no responsiblity in making sure that he's protected?
That's what seems a little crazy to me.


sheesh - it's no wonder there's such a huge amount of unwanted pregnancies in the world.

 

[RoryN]

Do you have a desensitized dick? Are your choice of condoms made of iron?
Do you think that women can't tell the difference between a condom covered cock vs. the flesh on flesh feeling?
Sure it does stop some feeling, but it isn't completely horrible and it's oh so much better than the alternatives.

...spoken by someone who's obviously never worn a condom before.

I feel *nothing* with a condom on. It is completely horrible and, since I don't want to guilt a woman into taking me in without one on, I just don't bother. Which makes her think I don't want to have sex with her.

 

[LeahLo519]

NEVER EVER?

I've slept with 3 people. Ever. One of them turned out to be a huge mistake, so I guess you've got me on that one. One person that didn't love me back, not that I didn't love.

 

[Bohemian Blue]

Oh, I hate fucking condoms. Unfortunately, "I wanted to get off" is not an excuse for giving up control over your genetic sauce. I'm sure this is why oral sex is far and away my favorite practice.

Fault doesn't come into it. Once the seed goes into the womb; all bets are off. Don't shoot loads into anyone you wouldn't want to have kids with; and if you do, don't whinge about negative outcomes.

I don't know too many women willing to have only oral.


If you know any send them my way.

 

[bisexplicit]

NEVER EVER?

I don't either. I think that is (maybe) something that women are socialized to believe in more.

 

[JinXed]

...spoken by someone who's obviously never worn a condom before.

I feel *nothing* with a condom on. It is completely horrible and, since I don't want to guilt a woman into taking me in without one on, I just don't bother. Which makes her think I don't want to have sex with her.

I haven't?
don't presume to judge what I have and have not done in ways of protecting myself and guarding against any unwanted pregnancies and diseases. I'm extremely careful.

I've spoken with a lot of male friends over this, and past lovers - and even my ex husband - none of them have ever described the huge loss of sensation that people do here. I can't imagine why they'd lie to me about it either.


As for just practicing oral sex - yeah that'll stop you from having a baby but it damned sure won't stop transmit certain diseases. Law have mercy.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Oh, I hate fucking condoms. Unfortunately, "I wanted to get off" is not an excuse for giving up control over your genetic sauce. I'm sure this is why oral sex is far and away my favorite practice.

Fault doesn't come into it. Once the seed goes into the womb; all bets are off. Don't shoot loads into anyone you wouldn't want to have kids with; and if you do, don't whinge about negative outcomes.

quote worthy.

 

[capricious_chic]

Oh, I hate fucking condoms. Unfortunately, "I wanted to get off" is not an excuse for giving up control over your genetic sauce. I'm sure this is why oral sex is far and away my favorite practice.

Fault doesn't come into it. Once the seed goes into the womb; all bets are off. Don't shoot loads into anyone you wouldn't want to have kids with; and if you do, don't whinge about negative outcomes.

Didn't you read the one about the chick who was performing oral sex on this dude over a period of time - she saved his semen and spit into a jar and then used it to impregnate herself. I believe he still had to pay child support.

 

[rosco rathbone]

...spoken by someone who's obviously never worn a condom before.

I feel *nothing* with a condom on. It is completely horrible and, since I don't want to guilt a woman into taking me in without one on, I just don't bother. Which makes her think I don't want to have sex with her.

I've actually had women get angry with me because I wanted to wear a condom. "But I'm on the pill, it's OK!". That's the kind of thing that makes you realize that we are but a thin veneer of rationality atop a core of blind genetic need.

 

[Bohemian Blue]

I just don't have sex with anyone that I don't love. *shrug*

You love me, right?

 

[LeahLo519]

Honeslty, I hate condoms. Like I said, I don't have sex with people that I have any kind of concern about, so I never use them and rely solely on my birth control. Condoms are awkward and it feels so much better for both parties without them.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

I don't either. I think that is (maybe) something that women are socialized to believe in more.

I think maybe that's it.

I'll fuck people who make me randy (when I'm single) if I like them. I mean, I don't have to love someone, I just have to like him/her as a friend. But I always ALWAYS make my lovers understand the birth control situation. No glove, no love.

Even my honey, who I've been with for four years now... we use a condom EVERY time. And if there's no condoms, then oral it is. That's it. That's just it.

 

[bisexplicit]

So he has no responsiblity in making sure that he's protected?
That's what seems a little crazy to me.


sheesh - it's no wonder there's such a huge amount of unwanted pregnancies in the world.

No, its obviously a decision you come to with your partner. I think its not something you should do without trusting someone - but no, I think in this case, that he was screwed over by her.

 

[lizaveta]

You know, condoms aren't the only choice. I hate condoms, too (mild latex allergy? not sure, but they make me pee funny) but there are lots of methods that can be combined to minimize pregnancy risk, and lots of them can be done in full view of Mr. Right Now. Mood killer? Maybe, but less so than that three-minute wait for the plus or minus sign...

 

[capricious_chic]

but saying that its his fault for not using a condom seems a little crazy.

They are both responsible. His role would be negated if he wore a condom.

 

[rimmy]

I just don't have sex with anyone that I don't love. *shrug*

Damn.