Jessika_Femme
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How many other brats are here?
Being a brat
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WishItsTrue_TG
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More power to you!
I have a lot of respect for you ladies. You tell people what you think; you're straightforward and aboveboard. I takes courage to do what you; you're brave. You don't follow the crowd like sheep; you're independent and think on your own. It takes self-confidence and belief in yourself to stand up and take a stance counter to what other people think and feel; you're self-confident. A lot of studies say many women diffident and lack forcefulness standing up for their rights; you're assertive and can stand on your own two feet. Culture reinforces a chauvinistic, male dominated view of women that's exploitative; I think you perceptively and accurately sees through the bullshit to understand the truth; you're realistic about the world. Etc., Etc.
Character can be broken down into component parts: Truthfulness, Dependability, Courage, Prudence, Judgment, etc. I think you get high marks on a lot of these individual traits, while most women get lower marks. How self-confident is the average woman? How many women come out and plainly tell you what they're thinking. That list goes on.
Summing it all up, you have stronger personalities than most people, and that's something to be proud of. As people who stand up for their own point of view, you're unique, special individuals in a faceless crowd.
I have a lot of respect for you ladies. You tell people what you think; you're straightforward and aboveboard. I takes courage to do what you; you're brave. You don't follow the crowd like sheep; you're independent and think on your own. It takes self-confidence and belief in yourself to stand up and take a stance counter to what other people think and feel; you're self-confident. A lot of studies say many women diffident and lack forcefulness standing up for their rights; you're assertive and can stand on your own two feet. Culture reinforces a chauvinistic, male dominated view of women that's exploitative; I think you perceptively and accurately sees through the bullshit to understand the truth; you're realistic about the world. Etc., Etc.
Character can be broken down into component parts: Truthfulness, Dependability, Courage, Prudence, Judgment, etc. I think you get high marks on a lot of these individual traits, while most women get lower marks. How self-confident is the average woman? How many women come out and plainly tell you what they're thinking. That list goes on.
Summing it all up, you have stronger personalities than most people, and that's something to be proud of. As people who stand up for their own point of view, you're unique, special individuals in a faceless crowd.
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A bit of a threadjack...but what exactly is the appeal of a "brat" to a pyl brat-fancier?
When ever I see the label applied the pyl seems to be otherwise youthful and attractive otherwise.
If one was aesthetically challenged could one build attraction through bratty behavior?
Are there pyl's that LIKE the trait, or it it something endured for other rewards?
Just curious.
When ever I see the label applied the pyl seems to be otherwise youthful and attractive otherwise.
If one was aesthetically challenged could one build attraction through bratty behavior?
Are there pyl's that LIKE the trait, or it it something endured for other rewards?
Just curious.
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JtohisPB,
"How many other brats are here," "i m one for sure;" I mean these women are aboveboard and straightforward about who they are.
Being a brat is not socially approved and exposes them to ridicule; I think it takes courage to take stances that exposes you to attacks. They aren't afraid of attacks by critics. I think that takes courage not to be afraid of attacks.
These are public posts. Dozens of people - hundreds! - could read these posts. These women could be exposed to unknown numbers of criticism for days - weeks! I'm guessing, but I think these women decided they can survive any critiicisms they receive on these pages. To believe you can survive whatever people throw at you takes self-confidence.
I just googled women and assertiveness. Wading past the adds, this is the first thing I came to, #ttp://www.towson.edu/itrow/11%20-%20Research%20Project%20of%20the%20Institute/Previous%20Research/Gender%20Difference%20in%20Communication/index.asp . It compared assertiveness of men against women on several catagories. On almost all catagories men were found assertive and women were not. shc917 just said, "i m one for sure....a fun loving guy who into everything . foot fetish & pussy eating are my fav." In my book, that's an assertive woman who has no trouble confidently stating what she wants.
Whether we live in a chauvanistic culture that prescribes as submissive role for women and takes a jaundiced view their abilities - there are decades of discussions by femininist, sociologist, anthroplogist, political scientists, etc on this. They can speak on whether this is true. If someone surmonized that women should be submissive, I don't think some the posters on this tread are going to buy it, and I think they'll have their own opinion over what they can do. I would guess that's a more realistic apprasial of the truth than what our culture tells them.
But cutting to the heart of your question on how I came to my conclusions, I'm not going to give a strong reason behind my thinking. It's just my opinion, no stronger than the reasons a person might choose to be a Democrat or Republician. Just a personal feeling over what is true or not, based on a lot of the women I've known in the scene. They have faults....and a hell of a lot of strengths.
"How many other brats are here," "i m one for sure;" I mean these women are aboveboard and straightforward about who they are.
Being a brat is not socially approved and exposes them to ridicule; I think it takes courage to take stances that exposes you to attacks. They aren't afraid of attacks by critics. I think that takes courage not to be afraid of attacks.
These are public posts. Dozens of people - hundreds! - could read these posts. These women could be exposed to unknown numbers of criticism for days - weeks! I'm guessing, but I think these women decided they can survive any critiicisms they receive on these pages. To believe you can survive whatever people throw at you takes self-confidence.
I just googled women and assertiveness. Wading past the adds, this is the first thing I came to, #ttp://www.towson.edu/itrow/11%20-%20Research%20Project%20of%20the%20Institute/Previous%20Research/Gender%20Difference%20in%20Communication/index.asp . It compared assertiveness of men against women on several catagories. On almost all catagories men were found assertive and women were not. shc917 just said, "i m one for sure....a fun loving guy who into everything . foot fetish & pussy eating are my fav." In my book, that's an assertive woman who has no trouble confidently stating what she wants.
Whether we live in a chauvanistic culture that prescribes as submissive role for women and takes a jaundiced view their abilities - there are decades of discussions by femininist, sociologist, anthroplogist, political scientists, etc on this. They can speak on whether this is true. If someone surmonized that women should be submissive, I don't think some the posters on this tread are going to buy it, and I think they'll have their own opinion over what they can do. I would guess that's a more realistic apprasial of the truth than what our culture tells them.
But cutting to the heart of your question on how I came to my conclusions, I'm not going to give a strong reason behind my thinking. It's just my opinion, no stronger than the reasons a person might choose to be a Democrat or Republician. Just a personal feeling over what is true or not, based on a lot of the women I've known in the scene. They have faults....and a hell of a lot of strengths.
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Brats can be male too and going by the profile, I think that's the case with shc917.
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True enuf, IrisAlthea. Alas and anon, I didn't do my homework, as you did. Apparently, I overlooked a prominent feature of shc917 that made him very different than an strong willed woman.
But I do find it so much easier to appreciate the personality of a Brat when they come attached to the lips of a pouty smile. And I would so much rather appreciate the strength of her personality than the strength of his biceps.
But what I say has no truth behind it than just a personal opinion, and my own individual preferences. Maybe there are others that appreciate an m-brat better than I. For what it's worth, more power to you, shc917, and good luck with your hunting.
But I do find it so much easier to appreciate the personality of a Brat when they come attached to the lips of a pouty smile. And I would so much rather appreciate the strength of her personality than the strength of his biceps.
But what I say has no truth behind it than just a personal opinion, and my own individual preferences. Maybe there are others that appreciate an m-brat better than I. For what it's worth, more power to you, shc917, and good luck with your hunting.
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I am a brat and my mistress loves me for it. I am punished when I get too bratty though, which seems to happen often for some reason 
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I've always had a playful side but I doubt if "brat" would fit me. Now, for a serious question: what's the appeal of being a brat in a relationship?
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I so want to apologize to you for any mistakes I made.
I joined Lit. about 6 days before, and when I wrote that PM, it was the first day I really began posting. As I typed, I was leaning forward squinting at the screen, trying to figure out how to do things for first time. "Where's the Up button? What does that icon do? If I click here, what happens?"
So you got me "dead to rights." That was a strangle PM I sent you. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know the protocols used on Lit. I didn't know the routines typically followed to do things. I was running around (over enthusiastically) saying, "Oh! Oh! I want to participate! I want to be part of this!"
So you got a real good case to say, "Tom, you don't know what the fuck you're doin', do ya?"
Hang on...... I got another apology coming........
I do, on a frequent basis, suffer from acute motor-mouth. Or, more accurately, "motor-brain." I'll look at something and start thinking about it, and my thoughts go on and on - for paragraphs. When you asked how I came to my conclusions, I could have said, "Yeah! Read these eight paragraphs." Instead, I tried to keep it short (for me).
I didn't do such a hot job.
Instead of reducing my 8 paragraphs of thinking to one clear - concise - terse - exposition, I....
I..... Well, you saw what I did. Let me say, it was not as clear and concise as I hoped it would be.
I'm not a sociologist or political scientist or......a bunch of other things. I knew my ideas didn't have the authority of a framed certificate hanging on my wall. Fundamentally, it was only speculation. So I said to myself, "I don't want to claim this as true. I don't have the degrees to back this up. Let me just say it as my personal opinion."
So if you want to say, "Tom, take an English course, and learn to speak more clearly," I will not argue.
I really didn't mean to say anything that bothered you, and I sorry I did. And if I get clumsy and do it again, give me a chance to apologize, because I'm not out to make people feel bad. I just bumble around trying to make people feel good. And if I step on toes, I'm most likely going to say, "Sorry, 'bout that."
I joined Lit. about 6 days before, and when I wrote that PM, it was the first day I really began posting. As I typed, I was leaning forward squinting at the screen, trying to figure out how to do things for first time. "Where's the Up button? What does that icon do? If I click here, what happens?"
So you got me "dead to rights." That was a strangle PM I sent you. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know the protocols used on Lit. I didn't know the routines typically followed to do things. I was running around (over enthusiastically) saying, "Oh! Oh! I want to participate! I want to be part of this!"
So you got a real good case to say, "Tom, you don't know what the fuck you're doin', do ya?"
Hang on...... I got another apology coming........
I do, on a frequent basis, suffer from acute motor-mouth. Or, more accurately, "motor-brain." I'll look at something and start thinking about it, and my thoughts go on and on - for paragraphs. When you asked how I came to my conclusions, I could have said, "Yeah! Read these eight paragraphs." Instead, I tried to keep it short (for me).
I didn't do such a hot job.
Instead of reducing my 8 paragraphs of thinking to one clear - concise - terse - exposition, I....
I..... Well, you saw what I did. Let me say, it was not as clear and concise as I hoped it would be.
I'm not a sociologist or political scientist or......a bunch of other things. I knew my ideas didn't have the authority of a framed certificate hanging on my wall. Fundamentally, it was only speculation. So I said to myself, "I don't want to claim this as true. I don't have the degrees to back this up. Let me just say it as my personal opinion."
So if you want to say, "Tom, take an English course, and learn to speak more clearly," I will not argue.
I really didn't mean to say anything that bothered you, and I sorry I did. And if I get clumsy and do it again, give me a chance to apologize, because I'm not out to make people feel bad. I just bumble around trying to make people feel good. And if I step on toes, I'm most likely going to say, "Sorry, 'bout that."
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Hey, that makes sense.When I read your first PM, my thought was, "Oh, sounds like something fun to read." Then I got here and thought, "this dude wants to fight with me." Clearly not the case.
This is a very fun site. I've learned a lot and made genuine friends. Stick around, read the threads. Each forum has its own social norms. I greatly prefer the How To and BDSM forums, although the general board is fun, too. It's no holds barred over there, though, proceed with caution.
Welcome to Lit.
Indeed, welcome. And if you do venture over to the General Board, understand that spending time there will teach you why some animals eat their young.
