Bear Food

[trysail]

American bear enthusiast

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ROTFLMFAO


"American bear enthusiast" indeed !

 

[chillywilly2]

General resident hunting license is $25 here.......blackie, moose, caribou, deer tags are free

Once you kill enough of them off, they will start charging for tags...maybe even a lottery system when the population gets really low

 

[thør]

Once you kill enough of them off, they will start charging for tags...maybe even a lottery system when the population gets really low

Of course, non-resident tags are pretty spendy.

 

[Shagly]

Of course, non-resident tags are pretty spendy.

Do polar bears eat thier honey?

Give hikers a bottle of honey to carry as a deterant.

 

[shy slave]

No parent should outlive their child.

No parent should have to listen to their child die...



The memory would be a haunting hell.

Agreed.

Cannot imagine how a parent copes with having heard such a call.

But oddly, I imagine it's better than not having an opportunity to say 'I love you' one last time.

That mother lost her both child and husband, my heart goes out to her, coping without either of them.

 

[_FEELIONS_]

This is a human body that was eaten by bears.

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/249761d1298578464-timothy-treadwell-timothy-treadwell.jpg

 

[rosco rathbone]

Well that's the last time I go hanging out by the river in Russia without my Ruger Blackhawk.

 

[unregistered]

 

[thør]

Well that's the last time I go hanging out by the river in Russia without my Ruger Super Blackhawk.

Super so you aren't supper.

 

[where]

that was the saddest, most horrible thing I have heard in a long time. The poor child.

 

[unregistered]

 

[unregistered]

 

[thør]

A griz walked across the road in front of me this morning, barely a block away from my house.

 

[unregistered]

 

[thør]

Will you be safe in your igloo?

No problem........

Unless mr bear decides to come thru the wall

If he does, he'll be greeted by either 12 ga Brenneke Black Magic slugs or 275 gr .338 WM slugs.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Peregrinator]

Tell me Pereg, do you know these people?


Grizzly shooter garners support

Family said he was protecting his kids

By DAVID COLE / Staff writer

COEUR d'ALENE - A man charged with unlawfully shooting and killing a grizzly bear had so many supporters at his arraignment Tuesday in federal court that the judge had to move the hearing to a larger courtroom.

Even there, every seat was taken as his family, friends and neighbors, young and old, squeezed in.

Act, and protected by federal law. Hill's charge is a misdemeanor.

Magistrate Judge Candy Dale set trial, at least for now, for Oct. 4.

Hill has declined comment. His lawyer, Marc Lyons of Coeur d'Alene, said he plans to defend Hill on the basis of self-defense and protection of family.

Following the hearing, his father, Mike Hill, of Athol, said, "This whole thing is a waste of taxpayer money."

He said his son was concerned for the safety of his children playing outside when a mother grizzly and two cubs wandered onto his property on May 8.

Jeremy Hill has six kids, ranging in age from 14 years old to 10 months old. At least five were home when the grizzly was killed, Mike Hill said.

The bears had gone after some pigs in a pen that the kids had been raising, Mike Hill said.

He said his son shot one of the bears, then called authorities to notify them of the kill. The other two bears ran off.

He said his son could have just buried the animal and not said anything to law enforcement. He said his son is being penalized for coming forward.

State Sen. Shawn Keough, R-Sandpoint, attended the hearing in full support of Jeremy Hill.

"The charges are simply unjust," she said following the hearing. "Hopefully common sense will prevail. It's clearly an issue of protecting the family."

She predicted that punishing someone who reported killing a grizzly will damage government efforts to protect the animals.

She said nearly $20,000 was raised by community members for Hill's defense.

Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, was asked about the case while appearing in Sandpoint on Tuesday.

While Labrador said he needed to be careful in dealing with the prosecutorial side of things, he did have this to say:

"Clearly, we have a problem with the ESA when situations like this happen." He later added, "We're doing everything we can to make sure this man is treated fairly."

The Boundary County commissioners on Monday said they are standing beside Hill on the charge, saying in a statement that Hill had "not only the right, but the obligation to protect his children and his family."

The commissioners said they'll be seeking help from Idaho Gov. Butch Otter and Idaho's congressional delegation to get the charge dismissed.

The charge of killing a threatened species is punishable by up to a year in prison, a maximum fine of $50,000, and up to one year of supervised release.

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_65972651-9003-5b14-b4e6-730e29ff6b8a.html

Who? The guy who shot the bear? The prosecutors? I don't know any of them. I was under the impression that self-defense mitigated any federal protection. The real question is whether they needed to shoot the bear at all. Could he have fired to scare them away? Could he have just gotten everyone inside and let the authorities deal with the bear? Personally, I might have tried those things before killing it, but I wasn't there, so I don't know. In any case, my comment you're referencing was this:

Eh, I don't think you have much to worry about there, Vette. Even the most committed of greenies would understand that you took a hike in Yellowstone and regretfully had to kill a bear that attacked you. There are some on the very fringes, like PETA and Earthfirst! that might think "Well, we're on their planet so we deserve to die," but they're few and far between and marginalized even by us mainstream green types.

I made no mention of law enforcement people doing their jobs.

 

[trysail]

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/a-summer-of-humans-vs-grizzlies/



The summer of grizzlies continues in the Rocky Mountain West.

On Friday, a black bear hunter from Nevada was killed by a grizzly bear in the heavily forested mountains on the border of Idaho and Montana after he and his hunting companion, Ty Bell, 20, mistakenly shot it, thinking it was a black bear.

As the two men searched heavy brush and timber for the wounded 400-pound bear, it charged them. Both hunters raised their rifle at the wounded bear. “They both shot it and it kept coming,” Mr. Stevenson’s mother, Janet Price, told the Associated Press.

When Mr. Stevenson called out to draw the bear away from Mr. Bell, it turned toward Mr. Stevenson and attacked him. Mr. Bell shot it several more times as it mauled Mr. Stevenson and the bear was finally killed. Mr. Bell then called for help on his cellphone, but it was too late. A helicopter flew the hunter and his slain companion out, and the bear was transported to a state wildlife laboratory in Bozeman, Mont., for a necropsy.

The bear was shot in the Cabinet Mountain and Yaak Mountain ecosystem, which has about 45 bears.

There was no word on whether Mr. Bell would face charges for shooting the grizzly, and a federal investigation is under way. “It all depends on the case and the situation,” said Chris Servheen, the grizzly bear recovery coordinator for the Fish and Wildlife Service. “A report is a few weeks out.”

On Aug. 8, in the Selkirk Mountains, an Idaho man, Jeremy Hill, was charged with a federal crime for killing a grizzly bear cub about 40 yards from his back door in May. He said the bear was attacking his hogs and threatening his children as well.

Federal officials said that when the bear was shot, the children were safely in the house. The killing of any endangered species except in defense of a human life is a crime.

Amid a public outcry, the criminal charges were dismissed, although Mr. Hill agreed to pay a $1,000 fine. If he had been convicted of the killing, he would have faced a $50,000 fine.

Meanwhile, in a show of support from locals, Mr. Hill’s daughter Jasmine sold her prize pig, Regina, 15 times, netting nearly $20,000.

The controversy led three members of the Congressional delegation from Idaho, where emotions about federally protected predators runs deep, to introduce an amendment to the Endangered Species Act they say will make it easier to kill grizzlies in self-defense.

Other grizzly bear fatalities have made headlines in the Northern Rockies this summer as well. Two people were killed in separate incidents in Yellowstone, which is considered highly unusual; the last time one person was killed in Yellowstone was 27 years ago. Not since 1967 have two people been killed by grizzlies, on a camping trip in Glacier National Park. That was long before modern bear management methods made parks safer.

No one is sure exactly why there have been so many fatalities this year. “There are a lot more bears today than there were 30 years ago,” Mr. Servheen, said, “and there are a lot more visitors. So there is a higher encounter frequency.”

He said the agency was considering redoubling efforts to inform people about how to travel safely in grizzly country.

There are three times as many grizzlies in Yellowstone as there were in the 1970s, and in the wildlands around Glacier National Park, the largest population in the nation, the number of bears has grown from 250 to around 900 since the grizzly was placed under protection 1975. Grizzlies are being seen in places they haven’t been seen in decades, and wildlife officials are considering taking the bear off the endangered species list around Glacier in the next few years.



http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/a-summer-of-humans-vs-grizzlies/

 

[rosco rathbone]

I do believe that vette goes to sleep and sees dancing bears before his closed eyelids.

 

[koalabear]

I do believe that vette goes to sleep and sees dancing bears before his closed eyelids.

No, he just hopes to see one too test his ammo.

 

[Disgustipated]

No, he just hopes to see one *too test his ammo.

*to, dipshit.

 

[trysail]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/17/us-grizzly-attack-montana-idUSTRE78G0BY20110917



Wounded grizzly kills hunter tracking it in Montana
By Laura Zuckerman

Sep 17, 2011

SALMON, Idaho (Reuters) - A grizzly bear attacked and killed a Nevada man whose friend moments earlier had shot and wounded the animal during a hunting trip in northwest Montana, authorities said on Saturday.

Steve Stevenson, 39, of Winnemucca, Nevada, died of injuries he sustained in the mauling by the grizzly on Friday, said Brent Faulkner, undersheriff with the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office in Montana. After the attack, the bear was shot and killed by Ty Bell, 20, also of Winnemucca.

The two men had paired off as part of a four-man hunting party seeking black bears in the rugged Purcell Mountains where Idaho and Montana border British Columbia.

On Friday morning, Bell mistook a young male grizzly as his quarry and shot the bear, which sought refuge in a wooded area, Faulkner said.

The two men tracked the wounded bear, which attacked Stevenson before being shot multiple times by Bell. Bell contacted authorities by cell phone, Faulkner said.

Law enforcement officials from Idaho, Montana and the U.S. Forest Service reached the remote site Friday afternoon. Stevenson's body was air-lifted to a Montana lab for an autopsy, and a necropsy is planned for the grizzly carcass.

The grizzly attack on a hunter was the first in Montana since 2001, when a bear killed a man dressing out an elk.

A struggling population of fewer than 30 grizzly bears, which are listed as threatened in the Lower 48 states under the U.S. Endangered Species Act, roam the mountain forests of northeastern Idaho and northwestern Montana.

While hunting the protected bears is banned in the Lower 48, the law allows them to be killed if they threaten human life. Faulkner said an investigation is underway by sheriff's deputies and by Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks.

Bear experts say the case of mistaken identity will jump-start programs designed to insure hunters can distinguish between black bears and their hump-shouldered cousin, the grizzly bear.

"People tend to believe telling the difference between black bears and grizzlies is easy and that is not the case," said Gregg Losinski, a member of a federal-state task force on grizzlies.

Losinski said Montana is a leader in requiring hunters to prove proficiency in distinguishing between the two species.

Telltale traits of a grizzly include humped shoulders, shorter snouts, rounded ears and long claws, he said.

It is rare for grizzlies to kill humans, averaging one fatal mauling every two years in the Lower 48, wildlife managers said.

While conflicts between grizzlies and humans are down this year, deadly encounters are up, government figures show.

In July, a female grizzly in Yellowstone National Park bit a hiker perceived as a threat to its two cubs and lumbered away. The man died from the defensive bite, which severed a vital artery in his thigh, Losinski said.

Last month, Yellowstone rangers said a grizzly was behind the death of a hiker found dead on a back-country trail.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/17/us-grizzly-attack-montana-idUSTRE78G0BY20110917

 

[thør]

From the ADN, today:

"A moose hunter attacked by a grizzly bear north of the Denali Highway survived the severe mauling Monday after hiking to his camp, traveling by boat downriver to a wilderness lodge then getting an airlift via Alaska Air National Guard helicopter to an Anchorage hospital.

Donald "Skip" Sanford, 65, was hunting about five miles upriver from the Maclaren River Lodge when the bear attacked, according to Alaska State Troopers.

Sanford had been hunting with his son John, 12, his friend Monty Dyson, 47, and Dyson's son Chad, 22, Dyson said.

Dyson relayed Sanford's story Tuesday by radio phone from the lodge, which sits on the highway 42 miles east of Cantwell.

Sanford walked away from camp Monday about 2 or 3 p.m. to find a hand-held radio he lost earlier, Dyson said.

Sanford was on a game trail when he saw the bear stand up, Dyson said. Sanford backed up, but the bear seemed to circle around him, Dyson said.

Sanford told rescuers he first saw the grizzly about 75 yards away from him, said Joe Snyder, one of the many people at the lodge who helped treat Sanford and get him out of the wilderness. The bear quickly closed the gap between them, Snyder said.

"He turned around and the bear was about 20 yards away, and it was coming at him pretty fast with its head down," Snyder said.

Sanford -- a "tougher than nails" ex-Marine and a Vietnam veteran, Snyder said -- had just enough time to fire one shot from his .30-06 rifle before the bear grabbed him. The bear's claws dug into Sanford's back, near his kidneys, Snyder said. It bit his head, tearing an ear and leaving deep wounds with its canine teeth at the base of Sanford's skull, Snyder said.

Dyson said he heard the shot and turned his own radio on.

"He was just mumbling. 'Monty, a bear got me. A bear got me,' " Dyson said. Dyson couldn't figure out Sanford's location, so he started walking toward where he'd heard the gunshot.

Dyson found his friend covered in blood, he said.

"Skip said he remembered his head being in the bear's mouth, just going at him," Dyson said. "All he could do then was pray to the Lord that the bear would let go."

Sanford guessed the attack lasted about 45 seconds, Dyson said. The walk back to camp was more than an hour, and Dyson radioed his son to prepare a boat to float down the river, he said.

Back in camp, they loaded Sanford into a small boat, and Chad Dyson, holding a rope attached to the boat, floated him down the Maclaren River. Along the way, they met another group of hunters who used a satellite phone to call troopers, who called the lodge, Dyson said. Two men, including Snyder, drove a jet boat from there to meet the hunters, Snyder said.

"Skip was laying flat in the small boat, with severe bleeding, shivering, probably going into shock at that point," Snyder said. "He was just bloody. It was just full of blood. So I knew we had a situation on our hands."

They loaded Sanford into the jet boat, started first aid and rushed him to the lodge, Snyder said. "There wasn't a person here who didn't help out in some way," Snyder said.

Meanwhile, the troopers had requested help from the Alaska Air National Guard due to the remote location and the severity of Sanford's injuries, said troopers spokeswoman Megan Peters.

Snyder said they laid Sanford down in the dining room and wrapped him up in warm blankets from a drier. "He would just snuggle into it and go, 'Ohh.' He really liked that," Snyder said.

Later, an HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopter with two pararescuemen landed at the lodge, according to the Air Guard. The rescuers hopped out and helped put more bandages on Sanford while the helicopter took off and refueled in the air with an HC-130 that had also been dispatched, the Guard said.

When the helicopter landed again, the rescuers loaded Sanford inside and then flew him to Providence Alaska Medical Center, troopers said.

A Providence spokeswoman said Sanford was listed in "fair" condition late Tuesday.

Dyson, his hunting buddy, returned to the camp to take down their tents and find Sanford's backpack, which he'd dropped during the mauling: It was about 30 yards from a moose carcass, Dyson said.

"That bear was protecting a moose kill that he had there, and Skip just came up on it, and I think that's probably why the bear attacked him," Dyson said."

 

[trysail]

Eh, I don't think you have much to worry about there, Vette. Even the most committed of greenies would understand that you took a hike in Yellowstone and regretfully had to kill a bear that attacked you. There are some on the very fringes, like PETA and Earthfirst! that might think "Well, we're on their planet so we deserve to die," but they're few and far between and marginalized even by us mainstream green types.

Peregrinator,
You are given credit in these parts for being semi-sane. By contrast, the Earthfirster-types ought to be required to live in cold, dark caves.

 

[semen4her]

I smell a made for TV movie!