BDSM Story Section

[slvjenn]

I've been coming here on and off for years and years now...I read these forums, but mostly I just read the stories.

Here is my problem.

The BDSM section is too general. BDSM as the name suggests, covers a lot of ground. I just started to read a story. It was the top rated story in the section today. Fairly new, but a good number of votes. I started reading, and on the first page I knew I wouldn't like the rest, but I tried to keep reading.

Next page I began thinking, "why did i bother?"

This isn't to say it was a poor story. It was well written, and if *I* was into what the story was about i'm sure I'd have given it a good vote as well. The problem is, that I am not personally interested in what the story was about.

I'm posting this thread to make a suggestion to those that run the site to break the BDSM section up into more finely defined sub-sections. I have no idea if any of you would agree, but I'd like to hear your feedback. Maybe if enough people do agree, someone will point this thread out to whoever needs to know.

Thanks

 

[Hisbabydoll26]

I've been coming here on and off for years and years now...I read these forums, but mostly I just read the stories.

Here is my problem.

The BDSM section is too general. BDSM as the name suggests, covers a lot of ground. I just started to read a story. It was the top rated story in the section today. Fairly new, but a good number of votes. I started reading, and on the first page I knew I wouldn't like the rest, but I tried to keep reading.

Next page I began thinking, "why did i bother?"

This isn't to say it was a poor story. It was well written, and if *I* was into what the story was about i'm sure I'd have given it a good vote as well. The problem is, that I am not personally interested in what the story was about.

I'm posting this thread to make a suggestion to those that run the site to break the BDSM section up into more finely defined sub-sections. I have no idea if any of you would agree, but I'd like to hear your feedback. Maybe if enough people do agree, someone will point this thread out to whoever needs to know.

Thanks

I love to organize and think all sections could use a little subsectioning. For example in insest daddy/daughter, mother/son, sibbling etc. Question is who is going to do all of that work. I think it is a nice idea but I have to admit while frustrated when I can't find that right story, I have also been surprised by something that wasn't what I was looking for.

 

[Milambus]

Simply allowing the authors more room to write a larger description for thier stories may do the trick. I almost always go into the author story list where very short descriptions are shown for the stories. So, if the author could give a larger description of what was in the story then it would be easier to find the stories you are looking for. Show the desciptions on the ratings page would be nice also.

 

[DVS]

Because my stories include bondage, 'Laurel tried putting them in the non-consent category. She said they were non-consensual because the woman was bound against her will.

If you've read any of my stories, you know none of them are non-consensual stories. All of them use bondage as a tool, a method of control with the sub's total submission as the result. I fought with Laurel for my stories to be moved to the BDSM area, although they were getting thousands more views in the non-consent area.

I don't know if it's Laurel’s idea of if it's more a society thing she has to deal with, but stories must meet certain guidelines to be accepted into certain categories. In fact, she told me I would probably get hate mail from the die-hard BDSM people who didn't want bondage in their stories. I've yet to get any hate male. Oh, I did get a few who said I can't write, but that's a totally different thing all together.

So, breaking up the BDSM category might be possible, but those guidelines that are required will cause problems. And, I'm not even sure if these guidelines are written down anywhere.

Does anybody have an idea just how BDSM could be broken up? That is one step that might never be decided because BDSM is such a catchall category. You would either have too many categories to make sure you covered everything, or you would have overlapping categories to keep the list down to a bare minimum.

I for one don't think it will ever happen. There's just too much politicos involved for Laurel to go along with it. When we complained that the voting was lopsided against the authors, she wouldn't change that, either. To this day, if someone doesn't like your story, just a simple "1" vote will defeat up to five "5" votes, and with just two "1" votes, your story might never recover.

But, that's just for the top list votes and the red "H" you see beside the titles. Enough high voting and your story is rated "HOT" with that "H". But, a couple of "1" votes will trash that "H".

You mentioned you read a story that was highly rated for that day. You also said it was a pretty new story. New stories are most always rated high, because all of the author's friends vote it a "5" and so it's pushed to the top of the list. Check back in a few days to see if that same story is so high on the list. I bet it isn't.

A story worth reading is consistently high on the list for over a year, and that is only if the readers care to vote. Voting is not done that much, as my view to vote ratio is quite lopsided on all of my stories. Some of my stories have over 100,000 views, and maybe 100 votes. I'm digressing a little from the topic at hand...

Anyway, I just don't think it will ever happen. Other than doing this on your own, and that would take an awful lot of reading to put stories in a proper category, I don't see Literotica changing much.

But don't let my tainted opinion sway your desires. I could be wrong, you know. I have been before. Twice, I think.

EDITED to add...I've been wrong three times. I just remembered another time.

 

[graceanne]

DVS, now you've been wrong four times. The four that you remembered, and where you said you'd been wrong twice. tsk tsk You're going down hill.

What I think would work better for BDSM is if they had story codes at the beginning of the story. So if you're looking for D/s and nothing else that's all you get. Or if you want reluctance or romance or whatever. Frankly I hate stories with scat in them, totally grosses me out. If I see a story that has scat at the story heading, I leave it alone. I also don't read F/m stories.

 

[Rrrosyn]

I have a similar prob when I am reading them. Some I read because I know the author from here or chats. Some because I follow the author, they're just that good. Most disappoint.

For me though, I generally am interested in F/m without a humiliation aspect. I like sitting with j in bed and havng him read this type to me as I watch his erection grow. But then the subject turns to piss play, or complete humiliation of the the male sub and both of us totally lose interest.

 

[Ma Petite]

i have not actually posted any of my stories, but i do agree that it would be best for the viewers if they could see what they were getting themselves into BEFORE they started reading the actual piece itself. And i also agree, the cheesey parts or complete humiliation are only good for those who desire it, if youre not expecting it, it does ruin the story.

 

[slvjenn]

I don't think that past stories will ever be put into sub-categories. I'm more talking about new ones listed in the future.

Some codes might do the trick.

M/f F/m D/s etc

Something along the lines of what they use on this site: http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/code_explain.php

 

[Chicklet]

I imagine that if we broke the story categories into sub-categories, we'd end up causing Laurel and Manu a lot of grief trying to make sure everything was categorized as much as possible.

I like the suggestion of longer story descriptions. Also, keywords don't seem to work a lot of the time, I've found when I look for stories.

I have another idea though, one that might give us some quicker responses. Starting a "suggested titles" thread, with links to stories we recommend. I know it's been done before, I've enjoyed it before, but at least this way we'll each have some reading material for a while

 

[graceanne]

Well, also, if you try to sub categorize it you're gonna run into problems, cause most stories have bits of several sub categories.

 

[LadyAria]

I understand and agree to a point. I get frustrated at all the stories with piss and shit. I agree with what someone else said about have the descriptions show or longer descriptions.

 

[babiesmiles]

I agree totally with a short description of the story aimed to let know better what the readers are going to get .

 

[lovetobeasub]

Even if there was a search feature that you can search for what you want to read in that section. It is so broad and that section is so big!!


Can someone tell me though how you get there from this site....is there a link? I usually have to reopen a page to get there.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

What if they created subcategories for the future submissions and from there the author states what category they feel it fits best in? This would eliminate those running the submission section from having to make the decisions where it belongs.

One other thing I'll toss up for suggestion, since this is about BDSM and can come under the same issue as limits, is that the author lists the activities involved. This way readers know what will be in the story. This will allow them to skip sections or avoid the story all together if the story or parts of it does not suit their taste.

 

[graceanne]

What if they created subcategories for the future submissions and from there the author states what category they feel it fits best in? This would eliminate those running the submission section from having to make the decisions where it belongs.

One other thing I'll toss up for suggestion, since this is about BDSM and can come under the same issue as limits, is that the author lists the activities involved. This way readers know what will be in the story. This will allow them to skip sections or avoid the story all together if the story or parts of it does not suit their taste.

I already suggested that. I said put story codes so that people will know what's in the story and can avoid ones they don't like. Like if you don't like humiliation, then if it says 'hum' you'll know that you don't read that one. If you don't like scat and it says scat you know this is not a story you want.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

I already suggested that. I said put story codes so that people will know what's in the story and can avoid ones they don't like. Like if you don't like humiliation, then if it says 'hum' you'll know that you don't read that one. If you don't like scat and it says scat you know this is not a story you want.

Sorry grace. I am distracted a bit today.

 

[DVS]

Even if there was a search feature that you can search for what you want to read in that section. It is so broad and that section is so big!!


Can someone tell me though how you get there from this site....is there a link? I usually have to reopen a page to get there.

Certain pages of Lit I've saved shortcuts to. This page happens to be one of th em. You can get to several other pages from this link.

Lit's Main Page

 

[graceanne]

Sorry grace. I am distracted a bit today.

S'ok. I'm cranky, got a tooth that's hurting me.

 

[DVS]

S'ok. I'm cranky, got a tooth that's hurting me.

Cranky? Good. This is a good time to say I've only been wrong three times. In your post you said four, but maybe that was the sore tooth talking?

I submit...

DVS, now you've been wrong four times. The four that you remembered, and where you said you'd been wrong twice. tsk tsk You're going down hill.

And, for the record, I didn't say the sub categories are a bad idea, I was just saying Literotica won't go for it. Actually, the idea isn't a bad one. I know I introduce several different things in my stories and maybe someone will start reading one and get turned off by something my characters are doing. The key words we put in when we submit a story are usually limiting and lame at best and maybe a paragraph would be better than a series of catch words or phrases.

So, I'm still at number three, because I'm not wrong this time. Just wait. If anything is done about this, it will be a grass roots effort and not something changed by Laruel.

And, for your tooth? You know, a toothache is worse when your mind isn't occupied by something else. Any pain is worse, when there is nothing else to take your mind off of it.

Maybe you need someone to introduce another feeling to your person...maybe another...stronger pain that will take your mind off of your sore tooth? I could make some suggestions, but I'm sure there is someone close to you who has some of his own, perhaps?

Oh, just let us know what sort of methods he used. OK?

 

[graceanne]

Cranky? Good. This is a good time to say I've only been wrong three times. In your post you said four, but maybe that was the sore tooth talking?

I submit...

Cranky doesn't make me wrong. It makes you wrong, again. We're at wrong . . . . five times now. tsk tsk This seems to be becoming some sort of habit.

And, for your tooth? You know, a toothache is worse when your mind isn't occupied by something else. Any pain is worse, when there is nothing else to take your mind off of it.

Maybe you need someone to introduce another feeling to your person...maybe another...stronger pain that will take your mind off of your sore tooth? I could make some suggestions, but I'm sure there is someone close to you who has some of his own, perhaps?

Oh, just let us know what sort of methods he used. OK?

I'll mention it to him. I don't make any promises about sharing, though.

 

[lovetobeasub]

Certain pages of Lit I've saved shortcuts to. This page happens to be one of th em. You can get to several other pages from this link.

Lit's Main Page

Thanks I thought there might be a shortcut from these Discussion boards but I guess you have to open a new page.

 

[jadefirefly]

I agree with whoever said that subcategories might cause small problems due to there being aspects of more than one category in a story. But longer story descriptions are a good idea, and the little codes are an even better idea! That would be so much more helpful, I think.

 

[Chicklet]

Thanks I thought there might be a shortcut from these Discussion boards but I guess you have to open a new page.

on the bottom of my page there is an option that says "literotica.com" and links me up to the front page of lit, where i usually go to find my stories. you could also just type www.literotica.com/stories

 

[A Desert Rose]

Because my stories include bondage, 'Laurel tried putting them in the non-consent category. She said they were non-consensual because the woman was bound against her will.

If you've read any of my stories, you know none of them are non-consensual stories. All of them use bondage as a tool, a method of control with the sub's total submission as the result. I fought with Laurel for my stories to be moved to the BDSM area, although they were getting thousands more views in the non-consent area.

I don't know if it's Laurel’s idea of if it's more a society thing she has to deal with, but stories must meet certain guidelines to be accepted into certain categories. In fact, she told me I would probably get hate mail from the die-hard BDSM people who didn't want bondage in their stories. I've yet to get any hate male. Oh, I did get a few who said I can't write, but that's a totally different thing all together.

I remember this all too well, pal.

... When we complained that the voting was lopsided against the authors, she wouldn't change that, either. To this day, if someone doesn't like your story, just a simple "1" vote will defeat up to five "5" votes, and with just two "1" votes, your story might never recover.

I've seen this happen more times than I can count.

But, that's just for the top list votes and the red "H" you see beside the titles. Enough high voting and your story is rated "HOT" with that "H". But, a couple of "1" votes will trash that "H".

And this, too, to me personally.

You mentioned you read a story that was highly rated for that day. You also said it was a pretty new story. New stories are most always rated high, because all of the author's friends vote it a "5" and so it's pushed to the top of the list. Check back in a few days to see if that same story is so high on the list. I bet it isn't.

And this. I tell few people when I have a new submission (subliminal message coming... I have a new submission... LOL.)

A story worth reading is consistently high on the list for over a year, and that is only if the readers care to vote. Voting is not done that much, as my view to vote ratio is quite lopsided on all of my stories. Some of my stories have over 100,000 views, and maybe 100 votes. I'm digressing a little from the topic at hand...

I have the same kind of lopsided votes:views ratio, too. I'm not sure why people choose not to vote, but maybe it's a good thing they don't... for me, at least. LOL

Anyway, I just don't think it will ever happen. Other than doing this on your own, and that would take an awful lot of reading to put stories in a proper category, I don't see Literotica changing much.

I don't either. But then, I don't take myself or what I write too seriously, either.

 

[Rrrosyn]

I like the coding idea.