I don't know for sure, but from what I'm reading, it doesn't seem to me that Edith is addicted to anything, it's just that her lifestyle has been different. Maybe to help her not feel, she took drugs or alcohol when working. So, it's not that she HAS to have it to engage in sex, it's just that she has always done it. It's just like anything else that's new to someone...like trusting, she should think about having sex sober.
Thirded says the top who also doesn't get an erection but makes a hella lotta women happy anyway.
The hubs is mostly Cherokee. Scientists say that Native Americans are predisposed to drink addiction. I speculate as to the reasons why "this group" has earned the doctorate's questionnaire checklist stuff. Much like Irish genetics of times past. Maybe still present?
Repression of that sort will force folks into seeking outlets even if those outlets are detrimental. I wonder if the genetics factor wages into a group's DNA after years of evolution, or if it is passed down and learned through the nuture/culture cycle...
Hubby's sober and active in AA. His experiences there have facilitated personal growth.
I will play while under the influence, but that applies to the hubs. Pain and bondage are activities I save for the sober realm because I do not feel like a sub is able to give full consent under those circumstances. Coercion is what it is, and I like to play rough; therefore, I refuse to be held responsible for "I didn't *really* want this."
...Which is probably why I always harp on dialogue...
...And some folks find dialogue particularly difficult while sober...
...Which is why some of them drink lightly in order to express what goes on inside...
...And is *why* "I didn't really want this" can become a problem for me/us...
.Ahh man I just ain't got it in me to be pissed off with this comment, even tho it's a perfect example of why I hate the 'addict' mentality
You know why? Cos I can hear it's coming from a kind place, from someone whose been there themself, and I respect that. But the fact remains I DONT have a serious problem with drugs now. I know this cos I have in the past and how and what I use now is different (altho I have to watch booze). There's no *way* I'd let some well meaning, middle class, judgemental 'professional' dissect my life with their fake sincerity. The fuck do they know. Best of luck to you yer anyway. It's not easy fighting them demons.Bang on the money. Couldn't have put it better myself.I don't know for sure, but from what I'm reading, it doesn't seem to me that Edith is addicted to anything, it's just that her lifestyle has been different. Maybe to help her not feel, she took drugs or alcohol when working. So, it's not that she HAS to have it to engage in sex, it's just that she has always done it. It's just like anything else that's new to someone...like trusting, she should think about having sex sober.
I don't see anything wrong with getting a buzz before sex, but I do see problems with getting a buzz before a BDSM scene. AND, if the only way you can engage in sex is when you are on drugs or drinking, that would be a problem, Edith. But, just because that's always how you've done it doesn't make it an addiction unless you can't do it without.
I enjoy sex with drugs. I don't do it any more, but when I did, it was heaven. It enhanced the act 10 fold. If I could, I'd want to have sex on drugs all of the time. But, because of our society, I can't do that. Is it as fun without drugs? No, but it's still fun.
You women have all the luck. You have those factory form engorged, multi-colored, romance novel lover named, "let's do it again" five minutes later phallic appendages that you keep in a drawer at the ready. No contest!
Yeah, I caught the special. I also understand what happens when a group of people who already live in destitution are told NO. The conclusionary statement of the documentary: the elders are wise. Problem recognized, they're focusing on their original culture, and the kids' issue cannot resist the pied-piper. The hubs has never lived on a reservation, however.
The hubs got sober because alcohol wrested control of his life, and he's incapable of just having a few. My brother? Dead by 24 thanks to addiction. Both of my step siblings are addicts. Witnessing people I love self distruct?Everyone is different, it is like smoking, some people can beat the smoking addiction and yet can smoke socially occasionally, others if they did that would be back to the pack a day habit. For many addicts it is true (for them) that they cannot drink, because they know they are susceptible to going back, others may be able to control it, it does vary. A friend of mine fell into the latter category, but he told me while he could drink, and had, after getting sober he didn't want to tempt fate
That was really what I got from NA, why it meant so much to me when I first got clean. That there were others who understood how I felt, someone to hold my hand (and NO one had ever held my hand before).
Licia- I hear ya
Also, just seeing people who'd got to the same dark place I had, but had walked free. That was... amazing. Cos by the end of using gear I were just doing a punter, picking up, pinning it straight away, then back out walking. Endlessly. Everyone I knew used. Friends died. And I just thought I were fucked. That message of hope the people in NA carried, that was everything to me at that time.
I want people to know that's how I feel bout NA. But that message, that hope, that support was within the people in NA. Not in the steps, or principles. FUCK the steps. I never made it past step one lol, 'we admitted we were powerless'.
Orly
