BDSM and Impregnation

[GodBlessBreasts]

One of my strongest fantasies involve impregnation. The idea of a man forcibly impregnating a woman, or impregnating her through chicanery (or a woman getting herself impregnated by a man through chicanery) is one that gets me off powerfully. Particularly when there are clear power relationships involved. While in the real world, of course, I think it would be ludicrous for a a child to be brought into the world solely as a byproduct of BDSM play, I wonder how this fantasy idea is incorporated by lit members real or fantasy life?

EDITED FOR THIS NOTE:
Please, refrain from being a thought police man in this thread and judging other people for their fantasies. If mind control is your kink, then start your own thread about your fantasy to control people's thoughts.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Haven't personally incorporated it into my BDSM lifestyle, but do know of some who have this fantasy, and a few who would like it to be a reality. There are variations on the theme it seems, but the essence remains basically the same.

Catalina

 

[His maenad]

These themes have always been part of my fantasies.
Now that I am an owned slave, those fantasies have become a reality for me. We consider me to be my Master’s complete property in all areas. This means (for us) that it is his decision when, and if, I am going to be carrying a child.

Master does allow me to voice my opinions and so far has always respected them. This doesn’t always mean that everything goes the way I want it to go but it does mean that the eventual decisions he makes, are mostly a combination of both our desires.

As far as me being impregnated, Master has decided that this will happen in between 5 to 7 years from now. That is, if nature will bless us with that possibility, of course.
Master has decided that we should wait for the time after I have finished my studies so it is possible for me to be a fulltime mother. I’ve had a saying in whether I will become a mother one day, but not in when it will happen and in what way.

Just like he ordered me to go on birth control pills, he will then order me to stop taking them. I am not clear on how everything will be happening but I assume that he will be using me in other ways then he usually does, to make the whole experience different for me.

Personally, one of my fantasies is to be impregnated in the matter of fact way that a breeder organizes a breeding, if that makes any sense. I’d imagine me being cleaned thoroughly first, prepared for the event and then offered to my owner. I will then be put in a position which makes it most easiest and likely for me to receive and hold on to my owner's semen.
Part of this fantasy is also to be guided all the way through a pregnancy test, as soon as it is possible to take one.

I am not sure whether this is exactly what you were asking for in your question, but I thought I’d share.



Edited for grammar

 

[ownedsubgal]

mmmm...i have many fantasies along this realm. fantasies of being gang raped by a group of strange random men, sent by my Master, with the purpose of impregnation....fantasies of being impregnated by my Master for the purpose of breeding another little slave girl for him to raise up in our ways....and many fantasies of brutal treatment, use and abuse by many men while obviously pregnant (think beatings and gang rape at 7 months).

as children are not in the plans for us, these will all have to remain fantasy. they are probably one of the few fantasies between us that cannot/will not be realized. but they sure are lovely to think about.

 

[Etoile]

It is a fantasy that Daddy has, but it is impossible for us to realize that fantasy. E has talked about it in the distant past (early in our relationship) as an ultimate form of submission, and I'm inclined to agree.

 

[Limbhugger]

mmmm...i have many fantasies along this realm. fantasies of being gang raped by a group of strange random men, sent by my Master, with the purpose of impregnation....fantasies of being impregnated by my Master for the purpose of breeding another little slave girl for him to raise up in our ways....and many fantasies of brutal treatment, use and abuse by many men while obviously pregnant (think beatings and gang rape at 7 months).

as children are not in the plans for us, these will all have to remain fantasy. they are probably one of the few fantasies between us that cannot/will not be realized. but they sure are lovely to think about.

*Steps out on a limb* But fuck I'm a limb hugger so why not...

While I have found many of your posts eloquent and raw and open, this is over the top, IMHO.

Children, the creation of and the raising thereafter is sacred. Period. I don't care if you're religious or not. Don't care when you think life begins. Not an issue here. You and you alone have responsibility over this aspect of creation and the life that will follow.

It is sickening to me to think that one would create a child for some man to create a new generation of servant girl. You state that children are not in the plans for you, I hope they never are if this is what you truly believe.

I will be chastised and berated and for what I am about to say as I know OSG is some kind of icon around here and if that is the case, fine. In fact if ya'll want to ban me altogether that's fine too as I will not shirk on this.

OSG, if you really believe what you just typed you need professional help. We're talking about children. I seperate the original intent of this thread from you have posted.

I am disgusted.

 

[Etoile]

*Steps out on a limb* But fuck I'm a limb hugger so why not...

While I have found many of your posts eloquent and raw and open, this is over the top, IMHO.

Children, the creation of and the raising thereafter is sacred. Period. I don't care if you're religious or not. Don't care when you think life begins. Not an issue here. You and you alone have responsibility over this aspect of creation and the life that will follow.

It is sickening to me to think that one would create a child for some man to create a new generation of servant girl. You state that children are not in the plans for you, I hope they never are if this is what you truly believe.

I will be chastised and berated and for what I am about to say as I know OSG is some kind of icon around here and if that is the case, fine. In fact if ya'll want to ban me altogether that's fine too as I will not shirk on this.

OSG, if you really believe what you just typed you need professional help. We're talking about children. I seperate the original intent of this thread from you have posted.

I am disgusted.

Not to defend OSG because she needs it - she knows she's controversial and can handle herself - but I feel obliged to point out that she mentioned they are fantasies. She even acknowledges they can't be realized. I can't imagine condemning someone for their fantasies - that's akin to thought police in my book.

Interesting that you say OSG is an icon...I personally think she's just got some different views that make her very interesting.

 

[Limbhugger]

Not to defend OSG because she needs it - she knows she's controversial and can handle herself - but I feel obliged to point out that she mentioned they are fantasies. She even acknowledges they can't be realized. I can't imagine condemning someone for their fantasies - that's akin to thought police in my book.

Interesting that you say OSG is an icon...I personally think she's just got some different views that make her very interesting.

Etoile,

I wish not for friction between us but that's NOT what she said.

"as children are not in the plans for us, these will all have to remain fantasy."

The words plan, have, and remain, alleviate of her of the fantasy realm.

 

[Etoile]

Okay, let me try to draw a parallel.

Ever since I was much younger, I've had a fantasy about raising a child wrong. I've always wanted to have a child and teach it the wrong nouns while it's learning language. Call a cow a book, call a book a bottle...things like that. Not mess with its language development otherwise, but totally fuck up its use of nouns to see what happens when it gets to school age. (Yeah, I know, I'm weird!)

Would I ever do that? Absolutely not. Not just because I'm not planning to have children, but because it's inappropriate. That doesn't stop me from having the fantasy (which has been with me for many years and continues to this day), though...I can dream about it all I want, but it won't happen.

I don't mean to say that my motivations for language-play fantasy and OSG's motivations for her fantasies are the same...I'm just trying to make a comparison.

(Feel free to call me a sick fuck for this one. It's way out there!)

 

[James G 5]

Okay, let me try to draw a parallel.

Ever since I was much younger, I've had a fantasy about raising a child wrong. I've always wanted to have a child and teach it the wrong nouns while it's learning language. Call a cow a book, call a book a bottle...things like that. Not mess with its language development otherwise, but totally fuck up its use of nouns to see what happens when it gets to school age. (Yeah, I know, I'm weird!)

Would I ever do that? Absolutely not. Not just because I'm not planning to have children, but because it's inappropriate. That doesn't stop me from having the fantasy (which has been with me for many years and continues to this day), though...I can dream about it all I want, but it won't happen.

I don't mean to say that my motivations for language-play fantasy and OSG's motivations for her fantasies are the same...I'm just trying to make a comparison.

(Feel free to call me a sick fuck for this one. It's way out there!)

As a joke, my Evil Ex's father taught her the alphabet BACKWARDS when she was a child
It actually contributed to problems with language and reading the rest of her life

 

[Limbhugger]

Okay, let me try to draw a parallel.

Ever since I was much younger, I've had a fantasy about raising a child wrong. I've always wanted to have a child and teach it the wrong nouns while it's learning language. Call a cow a book, call a book a bottle...things like that. Not mess with its language development otherwise, but totally fuck up its use of nouns to see what happens when it gets to school age. (Yeah, I know, I'm weird!)

Would I ever do that? Absolutely not. Not just because I'm not planning to have children, but because it's inappropriate. That doesn't stop me from having the fantasy (which has been with me for many years and continues to this day), though...I can dream about it all I want, but it won't happen.

(Feel free to call me a sick fuck for this one. It's way out there!)

Etoile,

I have no intention of calling you a "sick fuck" and am not sure why you feel I would.

What you just typed may be funny and odd but it is by no means a paralell.

What osg said was, again, "as children are not in the plans for us, these will all have to remain fantasy. they are probably one of the few fantasies between us that cannot/will not be realized. but they sure are lovely to think about."

Lovely to think about? Getting impregnated by "master" for the purpose of breeding another little slave girl is lovely to think about?

You know, I've had my tiffs with folks here but they have always been semantics and harmless. Each of us taken our side, making our jabs, and moving on. But this is beyond that.

I ask you Etoile, based upon what osg typed, not what you read into it, would that make you comfortable?

 

[GodBlessBreasts]

Limbhugger, please see the note that I edited into my original post.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Limbhugger, please see the note that I edited into my original post.

With all due respect GBB, if you post a thread in a public forum you must be wanting feedback. If you want a particular type of feedback which mirrors only your or one view, it is wise to say so up front, but to my thinking defeats the purpose of then beginning the discussion as it ends up a series of hands up type 'I agree' posts and dies very quickly. You will find if you post something which is not acceptable to everyone, you will have some who will voice their opposition, and that is their right.

Some do it with that purpose in mind, some do it not realising there will be opposition, but either way with the diversity of posters on Lit it is a forum for discussion which will present all points of view the posters may hold. Interesting discussion for those who were previously unaware it existed though, and definately one which is common but not spoken about by many because of the taboos involved.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

(Feel free to call me a sick fuck for this one. It's way out there!)

LOL, Etoile, now this is definately the first I have heard this one!! Sick? Not sure about that....different? very!! Congratulations and thanks for bringing a smile to my dial. http://www.smilies4you.de/content/sonstige/b7.gif

Catalina http://www.smilies4you.de/content/figuren/a3.gif

 

[GodBlessBreasts]

I do want a certain type of feedback that mirrors only my one view. And that one view is: "People should not be judged as individuals for the fantasies that they share in this particular thread."

... Well there's one other view that I expect everyone else to mirror: "God Bless Breasts, Allah Bless Breasts, Lord Krishna Bless Breasts, Buddha Bless Breasts. In the name of the Cleavage, The Areola, and the Holy Nipple, Amen."

Edited for grammar

With all due respect GBB, if you post a thread in a public forum you must be wanting feedback. If you want a particular type of feedback which mirrors only your or one view, it is wise to say so up front, but to my thinking defeats the purpose of then beginning the discussion as it ends up a series of hands up type 'I agree' posts and dies very quickly.

Catalina

 

[cellis]

It seems to me that some men have this fantasy as well... The ultimate control over a woman's body... impregnation... Some men are also excited by the whole pregnancy thing... but for most it just remains a fantasy...

I think that was what this whole thread was about... the fantasy factor...

 

[cellis]

*Steps out on a limb* But fuck I'm a limb hugger so why not...

While I have found many of your posts eloquent and raw and open, this is over the top, IMHO.

Children, the creation of and the raising thereafter is sacred. Period. I don't care if you're religious or not. Don't care when you think life begins. Not an issue here. You and you alone have responsibility over this aspect of creation and the life that will follow.

It is sickening to me to think that one would create a child for some man to create a new generation of servant girl. You state that children are not in the plans for you, I hope they never are if this is what you truly believe.

I will be chastised and berated and for what I am about to say as I know OSG is some kind of icon around here and if that is the case, fine. In fact if ya'll want to ban me altogether that's fine too as I will not shirk on this.

OSG, if you really believe what you just typed you need professional help. We're talking about children. I seperate the original intent of this thread from you have posted.

I am disgusted.

I wonder what it was about osg's post that pushed the most buttons for you? Mind you I am just curious is all... Believe me I am no defender of her lifestyle and am personally appalled by some of the things she has posted, but I am curious about your feelings...

It is not uncommon in some parts of our society for men to breed with their children to create more children... It is in my opinion quite sick... but having worked in the mental health field for many years... and I am almost certain that Miss T can attest to this as well, this does happen with more frequency that most people are aware of...

I think that fact that we have an open forum here where people can verbalize their fantasies is really quite healthy... Does that make them a "sick fuck" because one can verbalize... even with a certain amount of longing... something beyond the norm? Most of what we do in BDSM is considered beyond the norm by members of out society... so does that make us all "sick fucks" because we perform acts that most people don't understand? To alot people... yes we are sick...

I try to remember that BDSM is a spectrum... and a broad one at that...

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Cellis

My initial response to OSG's *fantasy* was as outraged as Limbhugger's. The fact that it is a fantasy (and she has stated it as so) is the only thing that checked my fingers.

For me, anything..anything at ALL..that has something to do with children..whether impregnation or any stage after that..is SICK. We who are involved in this lifestyle are ADULTS. The thought of raising my child to BOW to her father or any other person is disgusting to me..for only one reason but it is the biggest reason. It would be a taught, leanrned behaviour..giving my child no real say in their life.

That is what affected me. Like I said, the fact that OSG stated it was a FANTASY made me check my rage and anger..and control my fingers. But i understand exactly why limb hugger responded in that way.

just my humble opinion

pet

 

[catalina_francisco]

I would hazard to guess the part which upset Limbhugger is not the element of fantasy as much as the subtle inference it was acceptable as a reality, and if not for circumstances would become a reality. It was stated that as children were not planned in their relationship, they were unable to live this fantasy as a reality. That can be read to be saying it is OK to carry from fantasy to reality, the only factor preventing it is they are not able to because they do not plan on having children, or perhaps it is they are unable to due to other factors outside the legal/moral issues. Most will feel upset if they read it that way.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

I try to remember that BDSM is a spectrum... and a broad one at that...

I agree with you cellis, but it also seems more and more people are using BDSM as a cover for other activites which on all the sites I have visited, and all the people in the lifestyle I have met, do not come under the umbrella of BDSM no matter how far the imagination is willing to stretch. Without some speaking out, it can become the dumping ground for all who need a defense.

Catalina

 

[Kajira Callista]

Re: Cellis

My initial response to OSG's *fantasy* was as outraged as Limbhugger's. The fact that it is a fantasy (and she has stated it as so) is the only thing that checked my fingers.

For me, anything..anything at ALL..that has something to do with children..whether impregnation or any stage after that..is SICK. We who are involved in this lifestyle are ADULTS. The thought of raising my child to BOW to her father or any other person is disgusting to me..for only one reason but it is the biggest reason. It would be a taught, leanrned behaviour..giving my child no real say in their life.

That is what affected me. Like I said, the fact that OSG stated it was a FANTASY made me check my rage and anger..and control my fingers. But i understand exactly why limb hugger responded in that way.

just my humble opinion

pet

I am a parent and i know Pet is also, im not sure about limbhugger but im assuming yes from his response. I rest easy after reading OSGs post because i know one thing for sure...her fantasy will always remain just that. There is a difference in dreaming up a fantasy and actually becoming a parent and the instincts you have as a mother...born submissive, owned or otherwise. Instinct is to protect and nourish until the child is able to do so for themselves and no matter what you fantisize about or what you think you might want, you will do what is best for your child...and they do come before all, including Master. I think anyone living this life as Master/slave would know and accept this ...or at least i would like to think that.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Re: Re: Cellis

I am a parent and i know Pet is also, im not sure about limbhugger but im assuming yes from his response. I rest easy after reading OSGs post because i know one thing for sure...her fantasy will always remain just that. There is a difference in dreaming up a fantasy and actually becoming a parent and the instincts you have as a mother...born submissive, owned or otherwise. Instinct is to protect and nourish until the child is able to do so for themselves and no matter what you fantisize about or what you think you might want, you will do what is best for your child...and they do come before all, including Master. I think anyone living this life as Master/slave would know and accept this ...or at least i would like to think that.

Thank you Kajira for saying what i felt, so friggin eloquently. I can not add any more to that..but thank you!!!

 

[Kajira Callista]

Re: Re: Re: Cellis

Thank you Kajira for saying what i felt, so friggin eloquently. I can not add any more to that..but thank you!!!

My pleasure

 

[catalina_francisco]

Re: Re: Cellis

I am a parent and i know Pet is also, im not sure about limbhugger but im assuming yes from his response. I rest easy after reading OSGs post because i know one thing for sure...her fantasy will always remain just that. There is a difference in dreaming up a fantasy and actually becoming a parent and the instincts you have as a mother...born submissive, owned or otherwise. Instinct is to protect and nourish until the child is able to do so for themselves and no matter what you fantisize about or what you think you might want, you will do what is best for your child...and they do come before all, including Master. I think anyone living this life as Master/slave would know and accept this ...or at least i would like to think that.

The operative here is 'like to think that'. Unfortunately I have met one who did exactly as the Dominant wanted, mother or no....and statistics and countless crime cases will atest to the fact that because you give birth it does not automatically make you a virtuous Mrs Cunningham...many mothers have been imprisoned for assisting lovers/fathers/stepfathers in sexually abusing their own children. Not being ignorant until after the fact but physically holding down the child to make it easier for him. So while some like to bury their heads in the sand and wish it away, it unfortunately does not happen in reality that motherhood or fatherhood automatically makes one a perfect parent or someone who acts in the best interests of their or anyone elses children.

Catalina

 

[Texture]

I am of a mind that no fantasy is off limits, and the original post made it clear that the author would not consider using children.

However, it has struck me that some people like flirting with the idea that they are completely amoral or nihilistic, when they wouldn't actually be prepared to go down this route.

Making it clear that you are taking about a fantasy distinguishes yourself from this trend.