Basic Human Anatomy

[Diane Marie]

Recently we covered the use of measurements in a story. If they should be used and when they should be used. Personally I have no problem with size being used if it’s beneficial to a story. We know the size of our breast, we have to. I content most men also know exactly how long their penises are. Something they really have no logical reason knowing, but it must satisfy some desire in their make up. Actually I find it kind of cute.

Admittedly I’ve measure a few men, my first husband because that was in the days of those T’s that said "Happiness is a twelve incher". Of course they were referring to fish, yea sure, that’s why most of those T’s were for women. At that time I wasn’t real good with measurements, so I figured I surely had a twelve incher. My husband, now ex, in my mind was big, he is, I’ve never been with a man who was larger. What I found was a man who was almost nine inches, just over five and one half inches around. I assure you all, that is a big penis, big enough to at times hurt.

What my problem is, is that some just don’t seem to understand human anatomy. I haven’t read many stories lately, I did day before yesterday, the writer lost my interest totally when he started talking about a fifteen inch penis. Not just fifteen inches but nine inches around, I just checked the coke can I was drinking, that is only eight inches. If the story was about freaks ok, write it, but this guys wife just craved this freakish cock. Come on, some of you people get real, if you don’t know then do some study. I hate to even think where a fifteen inch cock would end up. I wonder if they make cock stops? I know they make drill stops.

Am I nuts or do others feel the same way about stories that don’t take basic human anatomy into consideration. Not to mention stories where some other guys dick size is going to turn his seemingly conservative wife into a sex maniac! Yea I can write those, but they’re a farce, I know that but I’m not sure many men do. It’s the man driving her crazy. Developing his character requires some work. Just looking at a big cock is not going to turn her into a nymphomaniac. Maybe a not so conservative woman could be turned by a body and a penis. I’m not telling, but I’ll admit to a few one night stands. I know the women here know the answer, but I’ll let you guys guess about how much of that was their bodies, how much of that was their personalities. I’ll give you a hint, they all made me laugh. That is a wonderful quality for a person to have.

Add the body, add the penis, make me laugh, I’m easy!!! As long as you don’t have eleven, twelve or, for christ sakes, fifteen freaken inches of penis,,,,,,,, jeeeeeeeeeesh

 

[TheWriter]

I wrote an article on this and a few other subjects relating to realism. So you won't surprised when I say I agree with you, a fifteen inch cock is WAY too much.

What it is that annoys a bit more though, is seeing these freakish completely unbelievable things ALL THE TIME! If you want a story that sounds like a complete piece of bullshit to tell your drinking buddies, fine.

But just do it once!

 

[Pookie]

I agree with you both. The old question, "does size matter?", works both ways. There is such a thing as too small. There definately is also such a thing as too large. Anything over 8 inches makes me cringe. Its got to be long enough for it to do some good, but c'mon ... 15 inches inside me??? No thanks.

Width is rarely mentioned in many stories. Actually, I will take width over length any day. Five inches around is about all I can handle over a long period of time. These beer can thick cocks you see mentioned from time to time will NOT evoke lust from me ... I call it fear. I really feel sorry for any guy that would have one that thick. He won't be having consensual sex with too many chicks.

When these types of things appear in a story, I know it is by a writer who has little or no experience with a woman.

Diane is right too ... make me laugh and you are half way to my bed. The rest of the way is not so easy.

 

[BigTexan]

Diane, perhaps you missed an important part of the story and it was a story about horses, not people. Kind of like 'Watership Down" was about rabbits, eh?


BigTexan

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Size

I figure that dick size is to women as breast size is to men.

A girl with enormous boobs doesn't necessarily make a superior lover, just as a guy with a huge schlong doesn't necessarily make a great lay either.

The same person who writes about a 15 inch cock is going to give you the girl with the 48" bust on the principle that if big is good than large must be better. Both are silly and amateurish ways to try and make up for what the author lacks in skill.

And I don't know how big my jalona is. The yardstick broke.

---dr.M.

 

[BigTexan]

Re: Size

I figure that dick size is to women as breast size is to men.

Okay, I'm going to really stick my nose in here and probably make a fool of myself in the process:


I don't think those monster dicks are meant to arouse female readers.


I think they are meant to arouse male readers who have a humiliation/cuckold fetish. I'm not an analyst but this is what I have gathered from reading here and from discussions I've had with people. Men who have a humiliation/cuckold fetish are aroused by men with much larger penises (peni?) than them having sex with their wife. Part of the arousal stems from their wife preferring the well-endowed interloper to them and proving it by going wild over the new man's cock.

Don't ask me to explain why this arouses them, I don't know, but this is what I think is at the root of many of these stories.

BigTexan

 

[wildsweetone]

a notion just crossed my mind...

the stories that contain ridiculous measurements... are they written by authors who hangout in the Hangout? the other day, i glanced through some of the new stories out... there were dozens of authors whom i've never come across in the Hangout before.

perhaps the majority of the unrealistic stories are written by people who are simply enjoying the opportunity of being able to write and submit their fantasies? happy in the knowledge that they've written something they themselves enjoy.

i guess i'm wondering if you're 'preaching to the converted'...

just thoughts

 

[Alex De Kok]

Wildsweetone said

i guess i'm wondering if you're 'preaching to the converted'...

I think she's right.

Alex

 

[KimIsBored]

I agree I think a story, unless it is a complete fantasy with non-humans or something, needs to be fairly realistic.

My exbf, we have been broken up for about two years now, was a little over 6 inches I think and he was a little too big for me sometimes. Granted I am kind of a small person but anyone much bigger then him wouldn't be too good for me. I have been with men that had bigger dicks and sometimes their pelvis would not touch my clit when we fucked. I really need that clit stimulation to cum.

 

[TheEarl]

I'd just like to steal two quotes if I may:

Tit size never saved a dull story.

If I hear a story going on about a "coke-can width cock," I don't think "Mmmm," I think "Ouch."

The first is Dr Mabeuse and the second I can't remember, but it's quite apt to what this thread is about. I'm not a woman, but even I know that a coke-can width cock is going to hurt. Basic anatomy. Also it doesn't matter how big the protagonists are, it's not going to help if you don't care about the story.

BTW. I don't know what my penis size is, but i'm fairly sure that it's not 12 inches. Bearing in mind that average size is 6 inches and the largest (according to the Guinness Book of Records) is 13 inches, if you can find someone with 15, then you've just broken a record.

The Earl - The man with the record-breaking penis

 

[Ms.M]

*LOL* fifteen inches long and nine inches around

If someone came towards me with that I would feel a need to study it before fleeing out the door or window!

I have had something that large in my vagina before but I was giving birth at the time....and that was exiting not entering...

 

[The_old_man]

May be that the writer was having a case of penus envy after seeing a John Holms tape?

 

[Diane Marie]

a notion just crossed my mind...

i guess i'm wondering if you're 'preaching to the converted'...

just thoughts

At times I'm a wee bit slow, can you explain this to me?

 

[wildsweetone]

At times I'm a wee bit slow, can you explain this to me?

sorry. it's a common phrase here 'preaching to the converted'... it means telling people something they already know, and it wasn't meant in an unkind manner. i was merely thinking out loud.

i was just wondering if any of the authors who commonly hang around the 'Hangout' are in fact authors who use measurements in their stories.

 

[Weird Harold]

Originally posted by wildsweetone
a notion just crossed my mind...

i guess i'm wondering if you're 'preaching to the converted'...

At times I'm a wee bit slow, can you explain this to me?

WSO was just obsserving that the people who most need to participate in this discussion don't hang out in the Author's Hangout forum. Those of us who do hang out here already know that some degree of realism is important to our stories -- for the most part, we're already "converted" and don't need to be "preached to" about realism.

I would like to add a point that often does apply to those who hang out here -- positions and contortions also need to be considered if you want your stories to be realistic.

I often see actions depicted that are difficult, if not impossible, to accomplish, given the way human joints are constructed and bodies fit together.

 

[Pookie]

"Preaching to the choir" is another way to say it too.

Need to bring the sinners into the church for the sermon.

 

[Vincent E]

Ahh, the old 15-inch cock story.

Yeah, I think I read dozens of them back in the days when Penthouse Letters seemed interesting. The problem seems to be that the authors of those stories are more interested in creating a stereotypical "suck and fuck" story than in trying to develop anything truly erotic.

They just need to put in that scene where the woman with the 48-inch DDD bustline goes down on the stud with the 15-inch dong (and imagine that, she was so expert at sucking cock that she was able to deep throat the whole thing) before hopping on top of the enormous dick (and let's not forget that she just has to get that thing up her ass too or the story would not be sexy) and feel him squirt about a gallon of come inside her (never mind that the male body could not store as much fluid as these people would have you think).

Oh yeah, I forgot that the woman always has the most beautiful face that any man has ever seen, and she always has long blonde hair (nothing wrong with that, really), and she always has the hottest ass you've ever seen, and the guy is always handsome and muscular and ... you get my point.

How about a story where the guy is 5"3', has a four and a half inch cock only after he has taken his Viagra, the woman has a butch cut hairdo and is an A-cup and outweighs the man by at least 50 pounds and sneezes halfway through a blowjob. But then let's give these two people some personality.

The trouble that I see is that too many people rush to get their stories posted without stopping and considering where they could take the time and expand on their characters. Also, I think that they are lots of people who are just re-writing a story that they read once before thinking that they are being original by doing it their way.

The size obsession is definitely a man thing; I admit that I fight this tendency myself. Most men are numbers oriented, and if the penis is bigger and if the bustline is bigger then the story must be better. the problem is that after having read so many I lose interest once I see the obscene measurement, unless it is truly important to the story.

For instance, Christo has written a series called "Those Autofellatio Blues" in which the character's large penis is in fact germaine to the overall plot. The story is well written and laugh-out-loud funny in many places. You also care about the main character.

 

[soulnovicaine]

as a guy...

as a guy I was always pritty content with my SLIGHTLY larger than average penis and can honeslty say that I've never desired much more.

You hear stories about the craving of foot long and half foot thick cock. I'm sorry but I find that entirely ridiculous.

I'm sure the majority of these stories come from in-experienced and impetuous youth, but cripe... the shere logistics of that are mind boggling

Not only for the pleasure and comfort of the woman (I mean hell, that HAS to hurt, especially if they are as "tight" as every man hopes and dreams)

But I think the other physiological consideration you have to ponder is for the sake of the man. Not just that hed be hard pressed to find someone he could fit. But the whole process of an erection.. I mean if your wang was that big I think you'd just pass out from loss of blood to the brain. How pleasureable is sexy when you're unconcious?


just the thoughts of a simple man... I guess if women still crave that massive meat, I'll have to rely on molding my other features, until they are "above average " or "extra ordinary" Till then, I'll stick with wit and romance...


.joey.

 

[just a thing]

If I had one wish it would be this: that every writer here would put the following sign on top of their monitors:


90% of all men have erections between 5 and 7 inches.


Any writer who writes about a stiff cock more than 7 inches long loses credibility with every additional fraction of an inch

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I agree that the 15-incher and the 48 DDD's are ridiculous, but it makes you think of other exagerations we make in porn and don't complain about.
All women are always orgasmic, not only that but the couple always have a simultaneous orgasm.
The woman's nipples always get hard, and she always lubricates like crazy. Men gush with pre-cum in a matter of seconds. And those are just the more obvious.
I'm not even going to talk about impotence, premature ejaculation, VD, pregnancy, infection and all that great stuff.

That's not realistic either, but we accept these lies.

---dr.M.

 

[TheEarl]

But I think the other physiological consideration you have to ponder is for the sake of the man. Not just that hed be hard pressed to find someone he could fit. But the whole process of an erection.. I mean if your wang was that big I think you'd just pass out from loss of blood to the brain. How pleasureable is sexy when you're unconcious?

Lol. That is a truly award winning thought for the day.

Dr M: The women who can feel men's cum splashing in them despite the fact that women don't have nerves there. If they did childbirth would be just too painful and 90% of women would die from shock.
Men who can rise again. And again. And again. And again. And again. What are they, powered by the Energiser bunny?
And why do you never hear "Ouch, you're pulling my hair."?

Dr M, check that last sentence as an example of why your question in the editor's forum on punctuation was right. Grammatically, it should go inside, but I'm not quite sure what to do with that punctuation.

The Earl

 

[christo]

The series that Vincent E so generously mentions does revolve around a young man with a freakishly large penis. I did that deliberately, purely for comic effect. I agree that too many stories focus on men with yardsticks between their legs and women with 44DD-18-38 figures, so when I started the series I wanted the narrator's, uh, gift, to be the source of more trouble than it was worth.

I can't say I blame writers for focusing on men and women with exaggerated attributes. You want to get the reader revved up, and just as most people get more turned on watching hot and sexy people have sex in porno movies as opposed to ordinary folks, readers get more excited if the characters appear to be incredibly attractive and endowed.

But you can take ordinary people and make them exciting and sexy. It takes more work, more thought, perhaps more skill to pull it off. If you're writing a story about a guy with an 11-inch penis and you put the same amount of effort into a story with a guy with a five-inch penis, the 11-incher might be totally fine and dandy. But if you describe a guy as hung like a baboon because you can't think up any other way of making the guy sexy and arousing, you're using his size as a crutch. As, indeed, a man so enormously hung could use his penis.

 

[Diane Marie]

I'm not even going to talk about impotence, premature ejaculation, VD, pregnancy, infection and all that great stuff.
---dr.M.

Interesting comment dr_mabeuse. I for one don’t ignore some of these, they often fit very well into the stories I write. Maybe, ok I do, pick more on the failings of men!

STD's and infections I admit to ignoring.

Pregnancy I've used, if your going to play, sometimes you have to pay!

 

[Guest]

pet peeve

Okay, amen and all that to the out of reality sized cocks....

Although, as with Christo's story, MathGirl's new post in humor and satire with the man with the "very long schlong" is entertaining.

What really bugs me, though, is the total upside bass ackwards bust descriptions. As a 36G this drives me absolutely bananas... and no, I am not exagerrating.. and yes, they are a real pain... bras are $50 or more a piece and have to be gotten from a specialty store, blouses and jackets have to be altered to fit, and I bump into everyone/thing... and yes, they are real...

What bugs me is that to most people 44 DD would just appear overweight. The first number is about ribcage size, the second is an indicator of the difference between ribcage circumference and tips of the breasts circumference. In most guys' fantasies it is not the first number they want so big... it is the letter they want to be further into the alphabet...

44- 28- 36 may be hot in measurements, but not if it is a 44 AAA...
So I have to laugh when an overly enthusiastic writer has his slim fantasy girl with a 44 DD chest..

Now that I've gotten that off my chest.... (pun intended)...

b

 

[KimIsBored]

I must say that there is lots of good discussion in this thread and it many parts of it are pretty funny too.

Now if we could just get the people that need the help in her to read it.

I also sometimes think about the whole STD and pregnancy thing when reading a story. Most often it is in stories that have two some what random people hooking up and they never use a condom. I know it may seem like having a character put a condom on would ruin the flow of the story but that is something that bothers me some. I would never have sex with any guy that I just met without using a condom. I mean maybe if we were in a serious, monogomus relationship and had we both had been tested I would but even then I am not sure.

I am not even doing serious relationships right now so it is condoms all the way.