Barack Obama: The Democrat Destroyer of American Civil Liberties

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Noam Chomsky: A Surveillance State Beyond Imagination Is Being Created in One of the World's Freest Countries

A White House lawyer seems determined to demolish our civil liberties.


June 2, 2014

In the past several months, we have been provided with instructive lessons on the nature of state power and the forces that drive state policy. And on a closely related matter: the subtle, differentiated concept of transparency.

The source of the instruction, of course, is the trove of documents about the National Security Agency surveillance system released by the courageous fighter for freedom Edward J. Snowden, expertly summarized and analyzed by his collaborator Glenn Greenwald in his new book, "No Place to Hide."

The documents unveil a remarkable project to expose to state scrutiny vital information about every person who falls within the grasp of the colossus - in principle, every person linked to the modern electronic society.

Nothing so ambitious was imagined by the dystopian prophets of grim totalitarian worlds ahead.

It is of no slight import that the project is being executed in one of the freest countries in the world, and in radical violation of the U.S. Constitution's Bill of Rights, which protects citizens from "unreasonable searches and seizures," and guarantees the privacy of their "persons, houses, papers and effects."

Much as government lawyers may try, there is no way to reconcile these principles with the assault on the population revealed in the Snowden documents.

It is also well to remember that defense of the fundamental right to privacy helped to spark the American Revolution. In the 18th century, the tyrant was the British government, which claimed the right to intrude freely into the homes and personal lives of American colonists. Today it is American citizens' own government that arrogates to itself this authority.

Britain retains the stance that drove the colonists to rebellion, though on a more restricted scale, as power has shifted in world affairs. The British government has called on the NSA "to analyse and retain any British citizens' mobile phone and fax numbers, emails and IP addresses, swept up by its dragnet," The Guardian reports, working from documents provided by Snowden.

British citizens (like other international customers) will also doubtless be pleased to learn that the NSA routinely receives or intercepts routers, servers and other computer network devices exported from the United States so that it can implant surveillance tools, as Greenwald reports in his book.

As the colossus fulfills its visions, in principle every keystroke might be sent to President Obama's huge and expanding databases in Utah.

In other ways too, the constitutional lawyer in the White House seems determined to demolish the foundations of our civil liberties. The principle of the presumption of innocence, which dates back to Magna Carta 800 years ago, has long been dismissed to oblivion.

Recently The New York Times reported the "anguish" of a federal judge who had to decide whether to allow the force-feeding of a Syrian prisoner who is on a hunger strike to protest his imprisonment.

No "anguish" was expressed over the fact that he has been held without trial for 12 years in Guantanamo, one of many victims of the leader of the Free World, who claims the right to hold prisoners without charges and to subject them to torture.

These exposures lead us to inquire into state policy more generally and the factors that drive it. The received standard version is that the primary goal of policy is security and defense against enemies.

The doctrine at once suggests a few questions: security for whom, and defense against which enemies? The answers are highlighted dramatically by the Snowden revelations.

Policy must assure the security of state authority and concentrations of domestic power, defending them from a frightening enemy: the domestic population, which can become a great danger if not controlled.

It has long been understood that information about the enemy makes a critical contribution to controlling it. In that regard, Obama has a series of distinguished predecessors, though his contributions have reached unprecedented levels, as we have learned from the work of Snowden, Greenwald and a few others.

To defend state power and private economic power from the domestic enemy, those two entities must be concealed - while in sharp contrast, the enemy must be fully exposed to state authority.

The principle was lucidly explained by the policy intellectual Samuel P. Huntington, who instructed us that "Power remains strong when it remains in the dark; exposed to the sunlight it begins to evaporate."

Huntington added a crucial illustration. In his words, "you may have to sell [intervention or other military action] in such a way as to create the misimpression that it is the Soviet Union that you are fighting. That is what the United States has been doing ever since the Truman Doctrine" at the outset of the Cold War.

Huntington's insight into state power and policy was both accurate and prescient. As he wrote these words in 1981, the Reagan administration was launching its war on terror - which quickly became a murderous and brutal terrorist war, primarily in Central America, but extending well beyond to southern Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

From that day forward, in order to carry out violence and subversion abroad, or repression and violation of fundamental rights at home, state power has regularly sought to create the misimpression that it is terrorists that we are fighting, though there are other options: drug lords, mad mullahs seeking nuclear weapons, and other ogres said to be seeking to attack and destroy us.

Throughout, the basic principle remains: Power must not be exposed to the sunlight. Edward Snowden has become the most wanted criminal in the world for failing to comprehend this essential maxim.

In brief, there must be complete transparency for the population, but none for the powers that must defend themselves from this fearsome internal enemy.

© 2014 Noam Chomsky, distributed by the New York Times Syndicate

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I found this gem on page two, yet another eyer thread that no one responded to...


Now he really hates me.


:cool:
 
Rightly said, eyer. It is so very much better when a GOP administration destroys American Civil Liberties. Patriot Act much? How about the ever popular, now multi-generational War on Drugs (because what a person puts into his/her body is obviously the business of a small, limited gov't)?
 
Rightly said, eyer. It is so very much better when a GOP administration destroys American Civil Liberties. Patriot Act much? How about the ever popular, now multi-generational War on Drugs (because what a person puts into his/her body is obviously the business of a small, limited gov't)?

Why are you so defensive there, 1sickbastard? Especially considering you obviously fuel that insecurity on pure, ignorant disingenuousness?

Does it really make you feel better just to post something...

...no matter how truly irrelevant to the OP it actually is?
 
Why are you so defensive there, 1sickbastard? Especially considering you obviously fuel that insecurity on pure, ignorant disingenuousness?

Does it really make you feel better just to post something...

...no matter how truly irrelevant to the OP it actually is?

Chomsky has been sounding the warning bell of loss of individual liberty and personal freedom for decades. Considering he's usually demonized by the right as a commiepinkoatheist, I find it absolutely high-larious you've used this article for yet another one of your threads.

But it's only hypocrisy when someone else does it, right?

What are you so defensive about, besides your own irrelevancy?
 
...no matter how truly irrelevant to the OP it actually is?

As if that matters for shit...not even OP is on topic.

What civil liberties has Obama destroyed exactly???

All I saw in OP was "Oh big bro is watching because nigra democrat in white house!!!" as if it hasn't been ramping up to these levels for the past 80 years :rolleyes:

And it has nothing to do with the title....
 
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Considering he's usually demonized by the right as a commiepinkoatheist, I find it absolutely high-larious you've used this article for yet another one of your threads.

If you were aware of what I've always posted on this subject on this Board, without exception...

...it'd simply be your ignorance you'd find "absolutely high-larious".

But, that's okay...

...I reckon it's as useless for me to imagine you'd actually educate yourself as it's even possible you own a mirror.
 
If you were aware of what I've always posted on this subject on this Board, without exception...

...it'd simply be your ignorance you'd find "absolutely high-larious".

But, that's okay...

...I reckon it's as useless for me to imagine you'd actually educate yourself as it's even possible you own a mirror.

Ah yes, the hurling of insults in an attempt to obfuscate that you've nothing else.
You sure showed me.
You might want to try getting some better insults though.
Of course, if you had anything besides reactionary rants based on quote-mining and cherry picked info to back your position, the insults really wouldn't be necessary.
Just sayin'...
 
Of course, if you had anything besides reactionary rants based on quote-mining and cherry picked info to back your position...

You've throuoghly demonstrated you have not a clue to what my "position" is, bozo...

...and, if you long for nice, pleasant dialouge with no insults on the GB, then you best wake up and just dally exclusively among your own partisan kind here.

Don't forget your kneepads.
 
You've throuoghly demonstrated you have not a clue to what my "position" is, bozo...

...and, if you long for nice, pleasant dialouge with no insults on the GB, then you best wake up and just dally exclusively among your own partisan kind here.

Don't forget your kneepads.

Let's see, your position seems to be, "I'm right and if you don't agree you're a pooty-head."
I suspect strongly before online forums came along you spent a lot of time yelling at kids to get off your lawn and bitching about how 'Murika wasn't like it was back inna day. But instead of having Obama to blame for all the ills of the world, it was Clinton.

Honestly, if you had anything of substance, or even if you had anything amusing, entertaining or slightly interesting to say, I might bother paying more attention to you.

But you're just not that special, princess.

Oh, you need to work on your insults as well.
Seriously, the last time I went to the movies, I overheard kids who were maybe just graduated from high school talk better smack. I know it's tough for you, because good insults require a certain degree of creativity and intelligence. Worse, good insults don't lend themselves to cut & paste. Of course, actually making a point on anything takes more than cut & paste as well.

Hey, good for you for working within your limitations. I'm sure the teacher will give you a nice sparkly gold star and a great big 'E' for effort.
 
Honestly, if you had anything of substance, or even if you had anything amusing, entertaining or slightly interesting to say, I might bother paying more attention to you.

You mean in addition to the 374 words of drivel you've already paid in attention to me in this thread?
 
Anyone care to name the civil rights/liberties Obama has destroyed?
 
You mean in addition to the 374 words of drivel you've already paid in attention to me in this thread?

You actually did a word count?

That's kinda pathetic.
I found a nickle on the ground. Maybe you could use it to buy yourself a life.
No, princess, don't stick it in your nose. No, don't stick it in your mouth either.
Be a good princess and you can have an extra jello cup.

Yah, I remember now why I had you on ignore; interacting with you gets boring real quick and it's way too easy to get you into a snit.

So, back you go to the iggy list.
Bu-bye princess. I hope that whole getting a life thing works out for you.
 
Anyone care to name the civil rights/liberties Obama has destroyed?

He's looking for an article to cut & paste. Be patient, he's still needs his male caretaker to bring his meds, change his bed-pan and give him a sponge bath.

That and FoxNews hasn't written the article yet. But as soon as they do, he'll be all over it.
 
You actually did a word count?

That's kinda pathetic.

Actually, when you get paid by the word...

...counting them becomes second nature.

I found a nickle on the ground. Maybe you could use it to buy yourself a life.
No, princess, don't stick it in your nose. No, don't stick it in your mouth either.
Be a good princess and you can have an extra jello cup.

Yah, I remember now why I had you on ignore; interacting with you gets boring real quick and it's way too easy to get you into a snit.

So, back you go to the iggy list.
Bu-bye princess. I hope that whole getting a life thing works out for you.

He's looking for an article to cut & paste. Be patient, he's still needs his male caretaker to bring his meds, change his bed-pan and give him a sponge bath.

That and FoxNews hasn't written the article yet. But as soon as they do, he'll be all over it.

153 more and a little boy stab at homosexual slight...

...clearly explains your need to still project "getting a life" so much.

I really wish I could say sorry that that's obviously been a lifelong failure for you, but...
 
Why don't you ask Abdulrahman Al-Aulaqi...

He is irrelevant to the thread title or the topic of discussion.

...you disingenuously ignorant piece of wannabe shit.

You're the one who posted a thread titled....

"Barack Obama: The Democrat Destroyer of American Civil Liberties"

And my asking you to name one makes me disingenuously ignorant? HAHAHAHA

BTW I noticed you STILL CAN'T NAME ONE.....who's the ignorant wannabe piece of shit now??

Too fuckin' funny.....

He's looking for an article to cut & paste. Be patient, he's still needs his male caretaker to bring his meds, change his bed-pan and give him a sponge bath.

That and FoxNews hasn't written the article yet. But as soon as they do, he'll be all over it.

Pretty much....ohhhh called on it before we had a "But nigra in white house!!!!!" article in place to deflect with, too bad for Col. Noble R. Altruism.
 
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