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Hating won't make you smarter, AJ.
Barack Obama is lying about not being friends with Bill Ayers...
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And just this week, he takes another swing left...
Once a week, he can be counted on to prove he simply cannot "find" the center.
Once a week, he can be counted on to prove he simply cannot "find" the center.
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Three Cheers for Jack Cashill
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/three_cheers_for_jack_cashill.html
Herbert E. Meyer served during the Reagan Administration as Special Assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence and Vice Chairman of the CIA's National Intelligence Council.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/three_cheers_for_jack_cashill.html
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Ghost Writers in, Ghost Writers in the sky...
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"I am a radical, Leftist, small "c" Communist.... Maybe I am the last Communist willing to admit it.... The ethics of Communism still appeal to me."
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Unless, of course, you're trying to fool most of the people some of the time...
Or if your ghost writer is so toxic it would be a disaster if he were discovered.
Has anyone compared Ayres' writing style to this book? Comparing Obama's only shows he didn't write it. What has Ayres written?
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This thread is chock full of the comparisons.
Ayers is a prolific writer and was given, as per multiple witnesses, Obama's unfinished notes, for Obama could not meet a deadline to save his myth...
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I wonder who really wrote Mein Jihad.
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In 1981, the 19 year-old Barack Obama published two poems in the spring 1981 edition of Occidental College's literary magazine, Feast.
One is a silly adolescent ode to "apes that eat figs" called “Underground.”
The second is an obviously superior poem called “Pop.” Critic Warwick Collins rightly describes it as "by far the more powerful and complex" of the two, and his is the consensus opinion.
Several mainstream reviewers have chosen to see in "Pop" the seeds of the literary genius that would flower in Obama's 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father.
A closer inspection, however, shows an early sign of Obama’s willingness to take credit for something he could not himself write.
This chicanery would reach fruition in Dreams, the acclaimed literary success that laid the foundation of the Obama genius myth. The evidence that Obama pal and mentor, Bill Ayers, largely ghosted this memoir now overwhelms the objective reviewer.
“Pop” too is almost surely ghosted, and the ghost in this case would have been an earlier Obama mentor, the communist poet and pornographer Frank Marshall Davis. What makes Davis’s involvement interesting is that the poem is surely about him as well.
My confidence in this thesis derives not just from the startling difference in style and sophistication between “Pop” and “Underground,” but from the equally startling similarities between “Pop” and a 1975 Davis poem titled “To A Young Man.”
In each of the poems, the young man is the narrator. This is more obvious in “Pop” as the poem was published under Obama’s name. In “To A Young Man” the young man’s narration is implicit.
In both poems, the old man, the Davis character, is discussed in the third person. In the 1981 poem, the narrator calls him “Pop;” in the 1975 poem, “the old man.”
In each poem, when this older character speaks to the young man, he does so without benefit of quotation marks. In “To A Young Man,” the Davis character says on one occasion:
Note the similar flow of language in “Pop”:
As is evident in these two short samples, both poems are written in free verse and make ready use of what is called “enjambment,” that is the abrupt continuation of a sentence from one line into the next.
There are parallels in word choice as well as style. “Neat” means without water or ice. “Neat” and “Distilled” both suggest a kind of alcoholic purity. Each of these words is emphasized by isolating it from the flow of the text.
In each case, too, the older man shares his wisdom with a “young man” who may not be eager to hear it. The young man of “Pop” dismisses that wisdom as a mere “spot” in his brain, “something / that may be squeezed out, like a/ Watermelon seed between/ Two fingers.”
Comparably, the narrator of “To A Young Man” observes that the old man “walked until/ On the slate horizon/ He erased himself.”
Whether “squeezed out” or “erased” from the young man’s consciousness, the Davis character understands just how tenuous is his hold on the lad. For all his awareness, however, he finds a certain drunken satisfaction in the exchange.
Towards the end of “To A Young Man,” the old man “turned/
His hammered face/ To the pounding stars/ Smiled/ Like the ring of a gong.”
“Pop” also concludes on an upbeat note, “I see my face, framed within / Pop’s black-framed glasses/ And know he’s laughing too.”
There is no reason to believe that the “young man” of the 1975 poem is Obama. The reader is told that the younger fellow is twenty years old and that the old man is fifty years older.
Davis was precisely seventy in 1975, but Obama was no more than fourteen.
Lacking too in the 1975 poem is the intimacy and anxiety that characterizes “Pop.”
In fact, “Pop” hints at both a blood relationship between the two men and a sexual one. The very name of the poem implies paternity, and in the poem the young man uses reflections and mirrors to show a physical resemblance between himself and the old man.
As to a possible sexual relationship between Obama and the admittedly bi-sexual Davis, the poem offers some intriguing evidence: “Pop . . . points out the same amber/ Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and/ Makes me smell his smell, coming/ From me.”
Although it is impossible to confirm that Davis either sired Obama or sexually abused him, this imagery does at the least reek of some unsavory boundary violation.
As compensation, Davis may well have slipped this “green young man” a poem for publication. Such an everyday fraud would not have seemed unethical to an old man used to the “flim and flam” of a world where “one plus one” does not necessarily make “two or three or four.”
Obama has seemed from the beginning entirely comfortable with his counterfeit literary career.
Ayers wrote Obama's book.
In his new book, "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage," best-selling celebrity journalist Christopher Andersen has blown a huge hole in the Obama genius myth without intending to do so.
Relying on inside sources, Michelle Obama herself, Andersen describes how "Dreams" came to be published.
According to Andersen, Obama was "hopelessly blocked" in his effort to honor the $150,000 contract Simon & Schuster had advanced him after three years of trying.
Obama was particularly worried because he had spent $75,000 of the advance and had produced nothing. In 1993, the publisher canceled the contract but let Obama keep the money after he pled poverty due to "massive student loan debt."
After his agent secured Obama a smaller contract with the Times Books division of Random House, Barack and Michelle decamped to Bali in the hope that he would be able to finish the book without interruption. That did not happen either.
With the deadline pressing, Michelle recommended that Barack seek advice from "his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers."
To flesh out his family history, Obama had taped interviews with various family members. Andersen writes, "These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers."
Andersen quotes a Hyde Park neighbor: "Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together. It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both."
Andersen continues, "In the end, Ayers' contribution to Barack's 'Dreams From My Father' would be significant – so much so that the book's language, oddly specific references, literary devices and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers' own writing."
Andersen concludes, "Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books."
There was good reason to suspect Ayers as the ghostwriter all along, as detailed why here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html
Excerpts:
Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he had written very close to nothing. Then, five years later, this untested 33 year-old produced what Time Magazine has called -- with a straight face -- "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."
As shall be seen, however, there are only two real possibilities: one is that Obama experienced a near miraculous turnaround in his literary abilities; the second is that he had major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter.
Occidental College whose literary magazine published two of Obama's poems -- Obama calls it some "very bad poetry," and he does not sell himself short.
From "Underground":
A literary genious, indeed!
Poseidon, a small imprint of Simon & Schuster, authorized a roughly $125,000 advance for Obama's proposed memoir.
With advance in hand, Obama repaired to Chicago where he dithered. At one point, in order to finish without interruption, he and wife Michelle decamped to Bali. Obama was supposed to have finished the book within a year. Bali or not, advance or no, he could not. He was surely in way over his head.
According to a surprisingly harsh 2006 article by liberal publisher Peter Osnos, which detailed the "ruthlessness" of Obama's literary ascent, Simon & Schuster cancelled the contract.
Times Book, the division of Random House at which Osnos was publisher. He met with Obama, took his word that he could finish the book, and authorized a new advance of $40,000.
Then suddenly, somehow, the muse descended on Obama and transformed him from a struggling, unschooled amateur, with no paper trail beyond an unremarkable legal note and a poem about fig-stomping apes, into a literary superstar.
Now we know how.
More and more, the picture becomes clear ... this guy is nothing more than a con artist.
One is a silly adolescent ode to "apes that eat figs" called “Underground.”
The second is an obviously superior poem called “Pop.” Critic Warwick Collins rightly describes it as "by far the more powerful and complex" of the two, and his is the consensus opinion.
Several mainstream reviewers have chosen to see in "Pop" the seeds of the literary genius that would flower in Obama's 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father.
A closer inspection, however, shows an early sign of Obama’s willingness to take credit for something he could not himself write.
This chicanery would reach fruition in Dreams, the acclaimed literary success that laid the foundation of the Obama genius myth. The evidence that Obama pal and mentor, Bill Ayers, largely ghosted this memoir now overwhelms the objective reviewer.
“Pop” too is almost surely ghosted, and the ghost in this case would have been an earlier Obama mentor, the communist poet and pornographer Frank Marshall Davis. What makes Davis’s involvement interesting is that the poem is surely about him as well.
My confidence in this thesis derives not just from the startling difference in style and sophistication between “Pop” and “Underground,” but from the equally startling similarities between “Pop” and a 1975 Davis poem titled “To A Young Man.”
In each of the poems, the young man is the narrator. This is more obvious in “Pop” as the poem was published under Obama’s name. In “To A Young Man” the young man’s narration is implicit.
In both poems, the old man, the Davis character, is discussed in the third person. In the 1981 poem, the narrator calls him “Pop;” in the 1975 poem, “the old man.”
In each poem, when this older character speaks to the young man, he does so without benefit of quotation marks. In “To A Young Man,” the Davis character says on one occasion:
Since then I have drunk
Half a hundred liquid years
Distilled
Through restless coils of wisdom
Half a hundred liquid years
Distilled
Through restless coils of wisdom
Note the similar flow of language in “Pop”:
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
As is evident in these two short samples, both poems are written in free verse and make ready use of what is called “enjambment,” that is the abrupt continuation of a sentence from one line into the next.
There are parallels in word choice as well as style. “Neat” means without water or ice. “Neat” and “Distilled” both suggest a kind of alcoholic purity. Each of these words is emphasized by isolating it from the flow of the text.
In each case, too, the older man shares his wisdom with a “young man” who may not be eager to hear it. The young man of “Pop” dismisses that wisdom as a mere “spot” in his brain, “something / that may be squeezed out, like a/ Watermelon seed between/ Two fingers.”
Comparably, the narrator of “To A Young Man” observes that the old man “walked until/ On the slate horizon/ He erased himself.”
Whether “squeezed out” or “erased” from the young man’s consciousness, the Davis character understands just how tenuous is his hold on the lad. For all his awareness, however, he finds a certain drunken satisfaction in the exchange.
Towards the end of “To A Young Man,” the old man “turned/
His hammered face/ To the pounding stars/ Smiled/ Like the ring of a gong.”
“Pop” also concludes on an upbeat note, “I see my face, framed within / Pop’s black-framed glasses/ And know he’s laughing too.”
There is no reason to believe that the “young man” of the 1975 poem is Obama. The reader is told that the younger fellow is twenty years old and that the old man is fifty years older.
Davis was precisely seventy in 1975, but Obama was no more than fourteen.
Lacking too in the 1975 poem is the intimacy and anxiety that characterizes “Pop.”
In fact, “Pop” hints at both a blood relationship between the two men and a sexual one. The very name of the poem implies paternity, and in the poem the young man uses reflections and mirrors to show a physical resemblance between himself and the old man.
As to a possible sexual relationship between Obama and the admittedly bi-sexual Davis, the poem offers some intriguing evidence: “Pop . . . points out the same amber/ Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and/ Makes me smell his smell, coming/ From me.”
Although it is impossible to confirm that Davis either sired Obama or sexually abused him, this imagery does at the least reek of some unsavory boundary violation.
As compensation, Davis may well have slipped this “green young man” a poem for publication. Such an everyday fraud would not have seemed unethical to an old man used to the “flim and flam” of a world where “one plus one” does not necessarily make “two or three or four.”
Obama has seemed from the beginning entirely comfortable with his counterfeit literary career.
Ayers wrote Obama's book.
In his new book, "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage," best-selling celebrity journalist Christopher Andersen has blown a huge hole in the Obama genius myth without intending to do so.
Relying on inside sources, Michelle Obama herself, Andersen describes how "Dreams" came to be published.
According to Andersen, Obama was "hopelessly blocked" in his effort to honor the $150,000 contract Simon & Schuster had advanced him after three years of trying.
Obama was particularly worried because he had spent $75,000 of the advance and had produced nothing. In 1993, the publisher canceled the contract but let Obama keep the money after he pled poverty due to "massive student loan debt."
After his agent secured Obama a smaller contract with the Times Books division of Random House, Barack and Michelle decamped to Bali in the hope that he would be able to finish the book without interruption. That did not happen either.
With the deadline pressing, Michelle recommended that Barack seek advice from "his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers."
To flesh out his family history, Obama had taped interviews with various family members. Andersen writes, "These oral histories, along with a partial manuscript and a truckload of notes, were given to Ayers."
Andersen quotes a Hyde Park neighbor: "Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together. It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both."
Andersen continues, "In the end, Ayers' contribution to Barack's 'Dreams From My Father' would be significant – so much so that the book's language, oddly specific references, literary devices and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers' own writing."
Andersen concludes, "Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books."
There was good reason to suspect Ayers as the ghostwriter all along, as detailed why here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html
Excerpts:
Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he had written very close to nothing. Then, five years later, this untested 33 year-old produced what Time Magazine has called -- with a straight face -- "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."
As shall be seen, however, there are only two real possibilities: one is that Obama experienced a near miraculous turnaround in his literary abilities; the second is that he had major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter.
Occidental College whose literary magazine published two of Obama's poems -- Obama calls it some "very bad poetry," and he does not sell himself short.
From "Underground":
Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .
A literary genious, indeed!
Poseidon, a small imprint of Simon & Schuster, authorized a roughly $125,000 advance for Obama's proposed memoir.
With advance in hand, Obama repaired to Chicago where he dithered. At one point, in order to finish without interruption, he and wife Michelle decamped to Bali. Obama was supposed to have finished the book within a year. Bali or not, advance or no, he could not. He was surely in way over his head.
According to a surprisingly harsh 2006 article by liberal publisher Peter Osnos, which detailed the "ruthlessness" of Obama's literary ascent, Simon & Schuster cancelled the contract.
Times Book, the division of Random House at which Osnos was publisher. He met with Obama, took his word that he could finish the book, and authorized a new advance of $40,000.
Then suddenly, somehow, the muse descended on Obama and transformed him from a struggling, unschooled amateur, with no paper trail beyond an unremarkable legal note and a poem about fig-stomping apes, into a literary superstar.
Now we know how.
More and more, the picture becomes clear ... this guy is nothing more than a con artist.
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Something entertaining about President Bush's musical appreciation talents:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1d4opG2s0o
I don't see him composing operas, but calling him "A man who has displayed not the slightest musical talent" is a bit of a stretch.
And, he knows how to pronounce "Corps"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1d4opG2s0o
I don't see him composing operas, but calling him "A man who has displayed not the slightest musical talent" is a bit of a stretch.
And, he knows how to pronounce "Corps"
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copy & paste
copy & paste
copy & paste
:caning:
Typical loonie response which fits the mold:
The classic loonie debate:
• loonie gang bang
• fault the source
• point finger elsewhere
• namecalling
• insult integrity and intelligence
• answer a question with another question
• refuses to read info stating already knows what's in it
• BLAME BUSH!
It's a pattern easily recognizable, used in varying degrees, simultaneously and/or one jab at a time
You know he didn't even bother to read any of it.
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We all know that Obama is a lying piece of shit.
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You left out
- Move the goalpost
- Pull away the football (like Lucy does to Charlie Brown)
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/simon_schusters_revenge.html
The Donald says: JUST SHOW US THE LONG FORM!!!
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He fooled 'em!
Blank screen awaiting projection!
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The Obama Lie that Drove the Birther Movement
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Where did Obama meet his wife?
Why, it was Bill and Bernadette, just people who lived on the block...
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/files/2011/04/obama-wide-grin80.jpg
Where did Obama meet his wife?
Why, it was Bill and Bernadette, just people who lived on the block...
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/files/2011/04/obama-wide-grin80.jpg
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Barry Says: People like being fooled A_J! Quit your hating! It's a little "white" lie!
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Shock, horror! Oh the humanity! A politician caught lying. What has the world come to?
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/files/2011/04/obama-wide-grin80.jpg
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