Badbabysitter rejoice: National Institute of Health spends NO money on men's health

[LJ_Reloaded]

Isn't that awesome!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/health/14men.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

In recent years, women’s health has been a national priority. Pink ribbons warn of breast cancer. Pins shaped like red dresses raise awareness about heart disease. Offices of women’s health have sprung up at every level of government to offer information and free screenings, and one of the largest government studies on hormones and diet in aging focused entirely on older women.

Yet statistics show that men are more likely than women to suffer an early death.

Now some advocates and medical scientists are beginning to ask a question that in some circles might be considered politically incorrect: Is men’s health getting short shrift?

The idea, they say, is not to denigrate the importance of women’s health but to focus public attention on the ways in which men may be uniquely at risk — and on what a growing men’s health movement has termed the “health disparity” between the sexes and its most glaring example, a persistent longevity gap that has narrowed but still shortchanges men of five years of life compared with women.

“We’ve got men dying at higher rates of just about every disease, and we don’t know why,” said Dr. Demetrius J. Porche, an associate dean at Louisiana State University’s Health Sciences Center School of Nursing in New Orleans, and the editor of a new quarterly, American Journal of Men’s Health, that will publish its first issue next March.

The Men’s Health Network, a not-for-profit educational foundation based in Washington, has called for creating a federal office of men’s health to mirror the office on women’s health within the Health and Human Services Department, and it is backing a bill sponsored by Senator Mike Crapo, Republican of Idaho, and Representative Vito Fossella, Republican of New York, to do so. Several federal offices on women’s health were recently established to compensate for years in which women were often excluded from medical research, but there is no federal office of men’s health.

Men’s health advocates say that men are silently suffering through what may be a serious health crisis. “We keep throwing out lifestyle as an explanation for the differences in longevity, saying that men come in later for care and have unhealthy behaviors, but I’m not sure we really know the reason,” Dr. Porche said. “And we haven’t answered the question: Is there a biological determinant for why men die earlier than women?”

It is a question that has piqued the interest of some medical scientists, including Dr. Marianne J. Legato, founder of the Partnership for Gender-Specific Medicine at Columbia University. Five states — Maryland, Georgia, New Hampshire, Louisiana and Oklahoma — have either established or plan to establish offices or commissions on men’s health, and the Nov. 15 issue of JAMA, The Journal of the American Medical Association, is entirely devoted to studies on the topic.

But the mere suggestion that men need their own health bureau or that they must advocate for their rights like a victimized minority rankles some women’s health advocates, and some politicians are reluctant to take men’s health on as a cause, for fear of alienating women.

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't know....I spent three weeks at NIH with my wife in December and I saw as many male patients as female and of all ages and ethnic backgrounds from all over the world.

How that translates into money and funding I don't know, but it looked pretty even in person.

 

[badbabysitter]

this article was posted November 14 2006


any updates in the 8 years since?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

this article was posted November 14 2006


any updates in the 8 years since?

I'd love to see anyone put up some facts that contradict this, rather than the pathetic "it's an old article" comeback.

Even once.

 

[badbabysitter]

I'd love to see anyone put up some facts that contradict this, rather than the pathetic "it's an old article" comeback.

Even once.

how are we supposed to contradict something which hasnt been updated in 8 years

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

how are we supposed to contradict something which hasnt been updated in 8 years

You could, I dunno

find a newer citation that says things have changed?


Wow, that was easy to figure out...

 

[badbabysitter]

well, guess i have to update it

Mike Crapo.. one of the Republicans mentioned in this article.. voted against the ACA, and against each and every other health act or program since Obama got into office... while he has made voices about making Office of Men's Health...it usally comes with caveats of stripping funding from women's health such as Planned parenthood... which I hiope you are not against

Fosella left office in 2009 after a multitude of political digraces in 2008

The Mens Health Network still continues, and does good work.. and I applaud it's continuing efforts to get just as much emphasis on prostate cancer as all the others

the Mens health network has lofty goals.. which is more then I can say about those who briefly exploited it it to push defunding of women's health

Mens health needs to be brought more into the spotlight... but it involves a societal shift in the way men view health... there's more then enough evidence and studies that show that men do not discuss health as a whole.. the paradigm of a " real man can take it".. and silence just leads to nothing being done

plus... most health issues that affect men already affect women as well.... but women have a host of health issues which men physically will never have to face... this isnt to say men dont face health issues that affect men only... but women face more health issues that affect women only........ to use a medical term as a metaphor, this is known as triage.. the ones with the most need get the most help


in closing... men need to be more vocal about thier health, need to start raising awareness about thier health, and should create health organizations like Planned parenthood for thier health issues............. but it shouldnt be done on the back of trying to downplay womens health issues

 

[badbabysitter]

You could, I dunno

find a newer citation that says things have changed?


Wow, that was easy to figure out...

that's your job... not mine


you are the one that posted "news" from the Dubya administration

if this was so important to you.. you would have posted it as it is now.. not as it was

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

that's your job... not mine

No it's not. I posted proof that the NIH spends no money on researching men's health - I've met my burden of proof.

To refute me it's on YOU to produce counter evidence. "It was 2006!!!" is not a valid comeback - it's a copout.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

well, guess i have to update it

Mike Crapo.. one of the Republicans mentioned in this article.. voted against the ACA, and against each and every other health act or program since Obama got into office... while he has made voices about making Office of Men's Health...it usally comes with caveats of stripping funding from women's health such as Planned parenthood... which I hiope you are not against

Fosella left office in 2009 after a multitude of political digraces in 2008

The Mens Health Network still continues, and does good work.. and I applaud it's continuing efforts to get just as much emphasis on prostate cancer as all the others

the Mens health network has lofty goals.. which is more then I can say about those who briefly exploited it it to push defunding of women's health

Mens health needs to be brought more into the spotlight... but it involves a societal shift in the way men view health... there's more then enough evidence and studies that show that men do not discuss health as a whole.. the paradigm of a " real man can take it".. and silence just leads to nothing being done

plus... most health issues that affect men already affect women as well.... but women have a host of health issues which men physically will never have to face... this isnt to say men dont face health issues that affect men only... but women face more health issues that affect women only........ to use a medical term as a metaphor, this is known as triage.. the ones with the most need get the most help

Women women face more health issues that affect women only... so that's why they live longer. Gotcha.

You are, like, an EXPERT in making assertions that don't even survive SUPERFICIAL analysis.

in closing... men need to be more vocal about thier health, need to start raising awareness about thier health, and should create health organizations like Planned parenthood for thier health issues............. but it shouldnt be done on the back of trying to downplay womens health issues

We are more vocal, but every time we are, you feminists come in and try to shut us down or attack us.

 

[badbabysitter]

Women women face more health issues that affect women only... so that's why they live longer. Gotcha.

facing less health issues doesnt mean you live longer....men traditionally chose more dangerous jobs, are less likely to seek medical or mental health assistance, are far more likely to be smokers, more likely to be alcoholics, more likely to be obese.... all of these are major factors in mortality....

You are, like, an EXPERT in making assertions that don't even survive SUPERFICIAL analysis.

and what exactly have you brought to to the table showing your expertise? nothing... just a recommendation of the Mens Health Network.. which you failed to notice that I agreed with

We are more vocal, but every time we are, you feminists come in and try to shut us down or attack us.

How exactly did anyone shut anything down? there was absolutely zero blowback from any feminist organization on this... stop blaming feminists for not following through

 

[badbabysitter]

No it's not. I posted proof that the NIH spends no money on researching men's health - I've met my burden of proof.

To refute me it's on YOU to produce counter evidence. "It was 2006!!!" is not a valid comeback - it's a copout.

you really dont understand the concept of posting relevant information... do you

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

you really dont understand the concept of posting relevant information... do you

Explain how 2006 is not relevant to today when none of the facts about NIH studies of men's health from that year has actually changed.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

facing less health issues doesnt mean you live longer....men traditionally chose more dangerous jobs, are less likely to seek medical or mental health assistance, are far more likely to be smokers, more likely to be alcoholics, more likely to be obese.... all of these are major factors in mortality....

Even taking those out of the picture, women still live longer. Baby girls survive more than boys do, and they're not exposed to hazardous workplaces.

and what exactly have you brought to to the table showing your expertise? nothing... just a recommendation of the Mens Health Network.. which you failed to notice that I agreed with




How exactly did anyone shut anything down? there was absolutely zero blowback from any feminist organization on this... stop blaming feminists for not following through

I guess you forgot about the huge feminist backlash at Movember - like, for instance, your Canadian buddies who attacked it with a huge pack of lies?
http://www.mcgilldaily.com/2013/11/movember-as-micro-aggression/

And that was EASY to find.