Axios: How Biden Botched The Border

[Fuzzy1975]

Gotta accept the real world as it is, not as you wish it was.

It's your world and your problem, not mine.

Immigration legislation hasn’t been done in about 40 years.

True, but why is there been no changes?

Both recent bills were DOA from the get go.

Again why? I'd say the GOP is too inflexible, and Trump even told Johnson to kill the bill, so he can make one, if he gets elected. How fucking insane is that?

Biden has the tool. If he wants to stop the flow NOW, he can.

No he can't. Hell look at how much people bitched when Trump used EO's. Now you want Biden to do the same??? No the answer is to get congress doing it. You should be pushing them, not crowing about what you support, and turning down compromise.

 

[ll74]

No he can't. Hell look at how much people bitched when Trump used EO's. Now you want Biden to do the same??? No the answer is to get congress doing it. You should be pushing them, not crowing about what you support, and turning down compromise.

45 tried stopping asylum claims and was blocked.
46 actually did the same and was blocked.
46 is currently on his second try and was blocked once..... Though the current policy is rolling out.
Adding a new EO won't change the above.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

45 tried stopping asylum claims and was blocked.
46 actually did the same and was blocked.
46 is currently on his second try and was blocked once..... Though the current policy is rolling out.
Adding a new EO won't change the above.

Exactly.

Write and pass new legislation is the answer. The problem is, one side doesn't want new legislation, because it will take away one election campaign issue from them.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Exactly.

Write and pass new legislation is the answer. The problem is, one side doesn't want new legislation, because it will take away one election campaign issue from them.

You don’t recognize the reality of US politics on this issue. Neither side has succeeded in passing immigration legislation in nearly 40 years.

Schumer lost 5 members of his own majority in the latest Senate attempt. The belief that a bill negotiated in secret could get 60 yes votes in the Senate just days after its unveiling, with no active public promotion from the President is incredibly naive.

Trump used a number of actions to impede border crossings. Some were more successful than others, but immigration activists like the National Immigration Justice Center were outraged by the efficacy of those actions. Border encounters spiked when Biden took office. Construction of the wall was halted, the “asylum cooperative agreements” with Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras were immediately terminated, and after two years of trying, Biden finally won court approval to end the stay in Mexico policy.

The court action 1174 is probably referring to involved Trump’s 2018 order to “suspend and limit” entries between the ports of entry (with some exceptions). People could still apply for asylum if they went to ports of entry. The rule was challenged, and a federal court in California granted a temporary restraining order and then a preliminary injunction. That injunction was upheld by the 9th Circuit. The Supreme Court declined to stay the order but SCOTUS never ruled on the merits. Trump lost reelection and the Biden administration WITHDREW Trump’s order. It’s common for justices to deny a stay of a rule while a case works its way through the courts and ultimately invalidating that rule. Legal experts cite compelling reasons to believe SCOTUS would invalidate that rule but no one can say with certainty because Biden pulled the plug.

Over the past couple of days, multiple news outlets including CNN, New York Times, Politico, NPR and others are reporting that Biden is now considering executive actions to stem the tide. It’s reported he’s looking at banning asylum requests between ports of entry and tightening credible fear criteria. Sound familiar?

If the courts have already shut down the president’s options for exercising executive authority, and if Biden has done all that he can do, it begs the question - why is the Administration suddenly now considering executive action?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

This is one of the saddest posts ever posted here

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You don’t recognize the reality of US politics on this issue. Neither side has succeeded in passing immigration legislation in nearly 40 years.

Agreed.

Schumer lost 5 members of his own majority in the latest Senate attempt. The belief that a bill negotiated in secret could get 60 yes votes in the Senate just days after its unveiling, with no active public promotion from the President is incredibly naive.

Why do you keep reverting back to the Democrats?

This is a both sides problem, and you seem quite content to bitch about the issue, and do fuck all about the issue. Except complain.

See my point?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Agreed.

Why do you keep reverting back to the Democrats?

This is a both sides problem, and you seem quite content to bitch about the issue, and do fuck all about the issue. Except complain.

See my point?

I’ve said repeatedly that both parties have failed for nearly 40 years. You keep insisting it’s just Republicans but that is obviously not the case. The two parties are fundamentally divided on the issue.

Pointing out the history of attempts to pass immigration legislation isn’t complaining. It’s accepting reality. POTUS is reportedly considering using his executive authority to issue orders that are similar to Trump-era amnesty and parole policies (and provisions that are in HR2 and the Senate bill) to slow the influx. It’s ironic that I’m supportive of that and you seem to be arguing against it.

 

[Rotadom]

I know, you're pathetic.

Chin up, tho! Today is the day! You'll put some INSURRECTION 1s on layaway and all will be right in MAGA World!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I’ve said repeatedly that both parties have failed for nearly 40 years. You keep insisting it’s just Republicans but that is obviously not the case. The two parties are fundamentally divided on the issue.

I said what now???

Agreed.

Why do you keep reverting back to the Democrats?

This is a both sides problem, and you seem quite content to bitch about the issue, and do fuck all about the issue. Except complain.

See my point?

Quit trying to deflect away from your inaction on this. You just like to gloat about it, and then claim you're on the fence hoping both side do something. Sorry Boomer that bullshit don't float.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I know, you're pathetic.

Chin up, tho! Today is the day! You'll put some INSURRECTION 1s on layaway and all will be right in MAGA World!

I don’t think Biden will issue the immigration order today but it might happen before the state of the union address. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

 

[Rotadom]

I don’t think Biden will issue the immigration order today but it might happen before the state of the union address. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

You're being lied to about the border and you don't care anyways. You were given your marching orders and like a good little comrade, you're here, every damn day, defending your team's failure to do anything but bitch and moan about the border.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

You're being lied to about the border and you don't care anyways. You were given your marching orders and like a good little comrade, you're here, every damn day, defending your team's failure to do anything but bitch and moan about the border.

What exactly did I say that you think is incorrect?

 

[Rotadom]

What exactly did I say that you think is incorrect?

Nothing you regurgitate is "incorrect." At least, not according to your marching orders

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Nothing you regurgitate is "incorrect." At least, not according to your marching orders

Exactly. The facts just make you “sad.”

 

[Rotadom]

Exactly. The facts just make you “sad.”

You deny facts so your sadness is born of your own ignorance. You put me being "sad" in quotes because its not a real thing.

You spend a lot of time defending your team's failure to secure our border.

 

[MajorRewrite]

The claim that Biden is unwilling to take any actions to address illegal immigration contradicts the evidence, both qualitative and quantitative. Yes, illegal immigration persists at extremely high levels compared to prior years. But as this extensive list of actions demonstrates, that is not the result of an unwillingness to carry out draconian actions toward border crossers, but rather, because the United States is among the freest countries on earth and has the best labor market in the world. We should be shocked when huge numbers of people don’t show up at the border—which has only been achieved through economic downturns.

The answer to why these measures did not work is complicated in some ways, but the basic point is simple. When large numbers of immigrants do arrive, the government lacks the resources to detain and remove all of them. That’s why the Biden administration has asked for unprecedented resources to carry out its deportation agenda, effectively doubling Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s annual budget. But even this level of resources will be insufficient. Because the benefits of living and working in the US are so great, many immigrants will still find a way.

List of 120+ Biden Actions to Help Try To ‘Shut the Border’​

The Cato Institute has interesting views on immigration. Definitely out of step with the rest of the right wing.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765117998539694486

 

[MajorRewrite]

Border Patrol: 70 Percent Drop in Successful Evasions Since Title 42 Ended

Border Patrol Chief Jason Owens confirmed last week that the number of known successful evasions of Border Patrol (“gotaways”) have fallen to just 800 per day in fiscal year 2024—down 70 percent from 2,671 the week before the Title 42 expulsion authority ended on May 11. A decline in gotaways this large and fast is unprecedented in Border Patrol’s history, and even as the administration faces unrelenting criticism, this stands as a major immigration win.

 

[Rightguide]

Wray Issues Warning About the 'Very Dangerous Threats' FBI Is Seeing From Border​

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Leah Barkoukis | March 12, 2024 10:00 AM


FBI Director Christopher Wray warned Monday that there are a “wide array” of threats coming from the U.S.-Mexico border.

"From an FBI perspective, we are seeing a wide array of very dangerous threats that emanate from the border. And that includes everything from drug trafficking — the FBI alone seized enough fentanyl in the last two years to kill 270 million people — that's just on the fentanyl side," he said. "An awful lot of the violent crime in the United States is at the hands of gangs who are themselves involved in the distribution of that fentanyl.”

"So, I want to be a little bit careful how far I can go in open session, but there is a particular network that has, where some of the overseas facilitators of the smuggling network have ISIS ties that we're very concerned about and that we've been spending enormous amount of effort with our partners investigating. Exactly what that network is up to is something that's, again, the subject of our current investigation,"

More here: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...-warns-of-threats-coming-over-border-n2636387

This is Joe Biden making war on his own people in order to create a new voting majority in the US, He doesn't give a shit how many Americans he hurts in the process.

 

[ll74]

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[Rightguide]

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^^^
1174's way of applauding Biden's invasion efforts.

 

[ll74]

^^^
1174's way of applauding Biden's invasion efforts.

You have nothing to offer. But please, make another thread about your BDS..... You obviously feel that the hundreds you have so far aren't enough.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Wray Issues Warning About the 'Very Dangerous Threats' FBI Is Seeing From Border​

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/authorimages/2f0c076e-5f46-4c3e-b169-e98908c43546.png
Leah Barkoukis | March 12, 2024 10:00 AM


FBI Director Christopher Wray warned Monday that there are a “wide array” of threats coming from the U.S.-Mexico border.

Wray, the guy you have denigrated for years??? You have the blind ignorance to trot out what he said, after all the shit you've pilled on him as a Democrat plant, or member of the deep state.

Have you lost your fucking marbles wrongway....

Maybe Wray, Rosenstein, Adam Schiff, and other petrified Democrats and media denizens.

The Democrats, some never-Trumpers, and Deep state actors (Wray), a

Either Bill Barr or the President should fire Wray. He is a smug, intransigent, swamp rat, who is complicit in this ongoing travesty against the General and who is a major road block to meaningful reform of the FBI.

Fuck you even started a thread on it....


https://forum.literotica.com/threads/director-wray-has-to-go.1514527/