Atn Parents: dont worry, your CHILDREN are safe!

[busybody..]

Okay, this is what #4 said:
"4:
When one person is actively threatening the life of another his own life is forfeit and before he manages to accomplish his threat he may (must) be killed"

Note the word actively.

Them TELLING you daily

Then ACTING on it

PLANNING on it!

Boasting of it

Is mere whim?

Fine, YOU WAIT

But YOU may be too late!

 

[busybody..]

Okay, this is what #4 said:
"4:
When one person is actively threatening the life of another his own life is forfeit and before he manages to accomplish his threat he may (must) be killed"

Note the word actively.

you DO know THEY said the same of Hitler

RIGHT?

THE EXACT SAME!

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

you DO know THEY said the same of Hitler

RIGHT?

THE EXACT SAME!

You do know that you're advocating exactly what Hitler did.

Right?

The exact same thing.

Genocide based on religious affiliation.

 

[busybody..]

N E G

UD said this

I'm sure that your great grandparents are so happy that you advocate genocide based on religion.



You awaited my answer

I said YOU should know the answer, DO YOU?

 

[busybody..]

You do know that you're advocating exactly what Hitler did.

Right?

The exact same thing.

Genocide based on religious affiliation.

you have said this a dozen times

I have answered YOU a dozen times

You wont accept it, nor see the difference, I wont answer it again!

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

N E G

UD said this

I'm sure that your great grandparents are so happy that you advocate genocide based on religion.



You awaited my answer

I said YOU should know the answer, DO YOU?

I know what your answer is.

You can't tell the difference between an extremist and a non-extremist Muslim.

So you assume they are all extremist and condemn all to death for the actions of the few.

So should I consider all jews to be extremists that advocate mass murder of people that are of a different political or religious affiliation because of what you say?

Would I be justified in slaughtering every Jewish person I see because I'm just "protecting myself" because they might be like you?

 

[busybody..]

that is NOT THE answer

it is 10% of THE answer

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

that is NOT THE answer

it is 10% of THE answer

Your answer, every time, has been "How do I tell the difference?"

So, how do I tell the difference between a peace loving Jew and a rabid murderous Jew like you? Aside from the foam around the corners of their mouth..

Would I be justified in painting them all as extremists and calling for all of their deaths, as you do to Muslims on a daily basis?

 

[busybody..]

you have said this a dozen times

I have answered YOU a dozen times

You wont accept it, nor see the difference, I wont answer it again!

 

[busybody..]

N E G

UD said this

I'm sure that your great grandparents are so happy that you advocate genocide based on religion.



You awaited my answer

I said YOU should know the answer, DO YOU?

 

[garbage can]

Awww... my sweet righty..... even though you are wrongy... I still like you!

*chuckle*

 

[busybody..]

I note

NO ONE has even bothered to comment at all about the threat our children face with these BUS DRIVERS


Save to say

that they are just looking for jobs like our forebearers

and the 9/11 killers were just looking to learn how to fly a plane

but

by the time you find out the truth, you could be dead!


INDEED: "The ultimate problem, of course, is this: how do you know if the nice young man who has just broken into your home is there to quietly burgle you, or to rape and dismember you?" And who should bear the risk of error?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I don't send my kid to the Madrassa...

 

[busybody..]

they are driving PUBLIC SCHOOL busses




















































(Yes, I do know what you meant, PUBLIC SCHOOLS=MAD-RAS-ASSES...........same difference)

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

All I know is, if you're not on the Yucatan, don't get on a Mexican bus unless you have a death wish.

 

[busybody..]

NEG


They are AFTER YOU

No matter how YOU pretend it aint so


http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=031907C

 

[busybody..]

Those torture allegations are ALL part of their game that YOU fall for!

NEG

You and your type, yes the LIBS and DIMZ are being USED by them and you let them


Face it, just cause YOU and YOUR TYPE say it aint so, doesnt make it not so


Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American
Here’s an eye-opener.

We all know they’re doing it, but this post on a jihadi web site explicitly instructs the Islamic warriors on how to manipulate “weak-minded Americans” and foster anti-war sentiment, by using popular web forums (I’m looking at you, Daily Kos) and video sharing sites like YouTube and LiveLeak to spread propaganda and disinformation.

“Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War... and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American”

“There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is... [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding].”

“It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums... which American people... favor... Define your target[ed forum]... and get to know it well... Post your contribution and do not get into... futile arguments...”

Indicate You Are an American

“Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name... Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum].”

“In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums... [are titled] ‘Random Thoughts’ and ‘What’s going on in your mind?’... [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there... This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans’ crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq... etc.”

“Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known”

“Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves...”

“Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God...”

How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government

“You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote to bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible.”

“Do not... discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively... because this could be a trap for you... In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums... as these types of requests will expose you...”

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Busybody is a poster that advocates the murder of blacks, jews, Mexicans, Arabs and Persians -- without a whiff of satire -- and anyone who continues to engage him in light banter or debate because they find him entertaining should know that.

 

[busybody..]

Note to FBI: Remember Canadian Terror Plot & Beslan School Massacre
By Michael Cutler

The FBI has alerted law enforcement officials across the United States that they have information that aliens under recent investigations, with ties to extremist organizations have been involved with buying school buses and/or obtaining licenses to drive school buses - but they say that there is nothing to be concerned about!

I find a couple of sentences in the article I have attached below to be particularly worrisome. Consider this sentence:

"Asked about the alert notice, the FBI's Rich Kolko said, "There are no threats, no plots and no history leading us to believe there is any reason for concern," although law enforcement agencies around the country were asked to watch out for kids' safety."


I would like to know if Mr. Kolko has been reading newspapers. Last summer a terror ring was taken down by the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) in Ontario. I included the text of the New York Times account of the arrests of those suspects below. One of the leaders of that suspected terror cell was a school bus driver. By driving a school bus, an individual who is intent on recruiting young people who might be vulnerable to swaying to the terrorist ideology, has easy "legitimate" day to day contact with many young people with whom he comes in contact a regular basis.

School bus drivers also have easy access to the schools as well as the young students. If we are to consider some recent history, consider what occurred in August 2004 Beslan in Russia when terrorists attacked a school and 323 hostages were killed in the effort to end the siege. Among those who died were 156 children who were slaughtered. Hundreds of additional, badly injured hostages were taken to hospitals. Here is the CNN account of that terrorist attack in Russia.

So I wonder to what "history" Mr. Kolko was referring.

Additionally, school buses would make attractive conveyances for terrorists for another reason, these vehicles are relatively large and ubiquitous. They are virtually invisible because they are commonly seen throughout the United States. They can be used for surveillance purposes and can also be used as weapons because of their size which would make them ideal for packing with explosives.

The other sentence in the article that I find to be interesting is:

"But Homeland Security and the FBI "have no information indicating these individuals are involved in a terrorist plot against the homeland," it says. The memo also notes: "Most attempts by foreign nationals in the United States to acquire school bus licenses to drive them are legitimate."
While it may well be true that the FBI was unable to develop information of an immediate terrorist plot, especially one that involved school buses, I am not certain how individuals who are associated with extremist groups are who seek to acquire school buses and school bus drivers' licenses can be then described as "legitimate."






While the organizations that these individuals are associated with are not named and their connections with these organizations have not been described, the fact that the FBI was sufficiently concerned that they issued an alert certainly causes me to be concerned. So the obvious question is what does the term "legitimate" mean? Does it mean that the applications were filled out completely and all of the supporting documents were provided? Does it mean that when these individuals who had come under investigation did not declare that they intended to use school buses in conjunction with a terrorist plot?

Would our officials be this sanguine about the potential exists that known child molesters and sex offenders were driving school buses as they seem to be that individuals associated with extremist groups are driving school buses? The passengers of those school buses are usually children. In virtually every society the children of that society are the most precious as well as the most vulnerable members of that society.

Ask any parent about how important their children are to them! In their children's eyes they see a reflection of themselves and their spouses. In their children's mannerisms and faces they may see their parents and other family members. Children represent the future for their families and for their countries. The alert the FBI issued means that parents throughout the country now need to be concerned as to whom they entrust their precious children when their children go through their daily routine of going to school each day.

Meanwhile President Bush says that we are fighting the terrorists overseas so that we will not have to fight them over here. John McCain has stated that the battles being fought in the Middle East by our soldiers are important to keep the terrorists from coming to the United States. They also agree on something else, the need to have a Guest Worker Amnesty Program that, as I have detailed in so many of my previous commentaries as well when I have appeared at Congressional hearings would enable terrorists in our country to change identities and make it easy for them to hide in plain sight and embed themselves in our country. If we are not fighting the terrorists "over here," why are we witnessing all of these alerts and a reduction in our freedoms and expectations of privacy within our country?

The truth is that this War on Terror is a multi-front war and we had better pursue it that way if we are to win. It makes no sense to send the elite elements of the Border Patrol to secure the Iraqi borders while our borders are wide open. It makes no sense that we have sent National Guard troops including those without weapons to help augment the Border Patrol more than 5 years after alien carried out the worst terrorist attack ever committed on American soil. It makes no sense to offer to provide official identity documents to millions of illegal aliens whose true identities are unknown and unknowable. It makes no sense for USCIS to naturalize 30,000 aliens last year even though they "lost" their relating immigration alien files.

It makes no sense to have a Visa Waiver Program for aliens from 27 countries including Great Britain, while we have to remove our shoes when we seek to board airliners because Richard Reid, the so-called "Shoe Bomber" was a British citizen who had concealed explosives in his shoes. It makes no sense that we have about 3,000 special agents at ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) enforcing the immigration laws from within the interior of the United States while there are 20 million illegal aliens living and working in our country with many more arriving daily, across our land borders and through our many ports of entry.

As you may know, I have been appearing on many wonderful radio programs around the country and I appreciate the opportunity that these broadcasters have provided me to express my views and provide my insight and concerns based on my having worked at the former INS for 30 years. One of the very first of these broadcasters to share her microphone with me is a wonderful young lady by the name of Vicki McKenna who broadcasts on WIBA in Madison, Wisconsin. I have been on her show for nearly 3 years. When she talks about these many areas of vulnerability she has an expression that I will share with you. She often says that the knowledge of the risks we face enables her to "Sleep the sleep of angels!" I think her expression is appropriate here in considering the assurances from our government officials who while warning police officers around the country about their concerns where foreign nationals who belong to extremist groups are acquiring school buses and licenses to drive school buses, they tell us that everything

 

[busybody..]

Dueling School Bus Concerns: On the one hand, the FBI’s not too worried that there may be members of extremist groups signed up as school bus drivers, FBI: Extremists Signing Up to Be School Bus Drivers.

On the other hand, it seems the Democrats are very concerned over school bus safety, Democrats Call for Better Bus Safety.

Takeaway: We’d like to make sure there are no accidents on the way to being blown up.

 

[busybody..]

HOMELAND INSECURITY
Terrorists – coming to a school near you
Police ill-equipped to defend against an American Beslan

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Posted: April 2, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com




Authorities fear the school massacre that shook Russia a few years ago may be a dress rehearsal for what al-Qaida plans to do in America – only on a grander scale, launching multiple school attacks simultaneously across the country.

In 2004, Chechen terrorists associated with al-Qaida seized a school building in Beslan, Russia, and slaughtered 338, including 172 children.

Three years later, schools and local police in this country are still unprepared to deal with such an assault, experts warn. Most don't have response plans for handling a single active shooter, let alone a cell of trained terrorists launching a large-scale attack.

Yet terror cells secreted inside America may be planning to use buses, as well as other vehicles and methods, as a Trojan horse to infiltrate school campuses and massacre students and teachers.

The FBI and Homeland Security Department last month distributed a bulletin to law enforcement across the country warning that Muslims with "ties to extremist groups" are signing up to be school bus drivers. They also noted "recent suspicious activity" by foreigners who either drive school buses or are licensed to drive them.


Lt. Col. Dave Grossman

"The enemy is infiltrating us at all levels, and certainly school bus drivers are one area to look at," warned retired Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, president of Killology Research Group, an anti-terror consultancy that trains the FBI and other law enforcement. "And how about high school, middle school and elementary school cafeteria workers? Janitors? Delivery people?"

Grossman says some school district security officials he works with have expressed concerns about some of the Muslim employees schools are hiring.

"But no one dares profile them," he told WND.

"Islamic terrorists are already in place in the U.S. and, yes, that includes bus drivers, cafeteria workers and also airport workers," added Grossman, a former Army Ranger and West Point professor.

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Floor plans for schools in Virginia, Texas and New Jersey have been recovered from terrorist hands in Iraq, he notes. Videotapes confiscated in Afghanistan show al-Qaida terrorists practicing the takeover of a school.

Simultaneous attacks on schools in multiple states would follow Osama bin Laden's goal of crippling the U.S. economy. If multiple schools were hit, Grossman says, parents would drop out of the work force en masse to protect their children. A prolonged labor disruption would cost businesses billions of dollars in lost revenue.

The 9/11 mastermind now in custody at Gitmo recently suggested al-Qaida may be targeting school children. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said in his confession before a military tribunal that while he may not like killing kids, they're fair game in jihad. He claims U.S. forces bombed and killed the children of bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, and arrested and "abused" his own children.

According to the Middle East Media Research Institute, an al-Qaida spokesman has claimed Muslims have the right to kill up to 2 million American children in retaliation for Muslim children killed in Muslim lands.

"Osama bin Laden has promised that what has happened in (Beslan) Russia will happen to us many times over," Grossman said. "And Osama tries very hard never to lie to us."

Experts say terrorist cells are aided by many facilitators inside American cities who canvass targets and perform other logistics for such attacks.

"They are in the U.S., in all aspects of life, including the schools – and not just as bus drivers," Grossman said. "And American school children may pay the price," if schools and local law enforcement fail to implement counterterror plans.

Recent events come on top of several other school bus-related incidents involving Mideast men that raise suspicion of terror activity.

They include last year's surprise boarding of a school bus in Tampa, Fla., by two Saudi men dressed in trench coats. Authorities suspect they were making a dry run to see how easy it would be to hijack or blow up a school bus filled with innocent American students.

Previously, an Arab man from Detroit was caught trying to obtain a job as a school bus driver in New York using fake Social Security documents.

Experts also worry about terrorists operating independently of al-Qaida. "There are many lone wolves and self-starters out there who could attack at any time," Grossman warned.

Muslim gunman Sulejman Talovic was loaded for bear in February when he opened fire on shoppers in a Salt Lake City mall. He was armed with a shotgun, a .38 pistol and a backpack full of ammunition. He killed five and would have kept killing if an alert off-duty police officer hadn't returned fire and helped stop him.

If the 18-year-old Bosnian immigrant had targeted his old high school in a similar rampage, the number of body bags would have been horrific, experts say. Such a scenario is local law enforcement's worst nightmare, because school resource officers, or SROs, are ill-equipped to handle such assaults.

Homeland security consultants recommend arming all SROs and training them in SWAT tactics to repel such attackers.

"The time may come when that one cop will have to keep several adults at bay, preventing them from prosecuting their assault plan on our kids until support arrives," said John Giduck, president of Archangel Group, an antiterror training service.

Recent attacks on children in schools in Athens, Ga., Bailey, Co., Red Lake, Minn., and Nickel Mines, Penn., occurred in the absence of armed SROs.

"We can't think that Columbine will be the worst tactical circumstances our SROs will face," warned Giduck, author of "Terror at Beslan: A Russian Tragedy with Lessons for America's Schools."

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Busybody is a poster that advocates the murder of blacks, jews, Mexicans, Arabs and Persians -- without a whiff of satire -- and anyone who continues to engage him in light banter or debate because they find him entertaining should know that. In short, he's me without class and style

True dat

 

[busybody..]

True dat

I dont advocate killing MexiCANTS, Jews or Blacks

and he forgot to add

I do advocate killing LIBS, DIMZ and FrenchFucks