Atkins... whaddaya think???

[catalina_francisco]

Been meaning to dig up this thread for awhile but time has been against me. When I was back in Oz a couple of months ago, I got to see the diet in action through my daughter. She has now dropped 3 dress sizes in a few months and is feeling fit and full of energy. Her doctor put her on the diet and monitored her and it seems to have worked. LOL, she is now bragging about her 38-26-38 bod....hmmmm, as she never has any problems attracting males (they tend to lay themselves at her feet regularly), I am anticipating she will be increasing her bevy of ardent admirers which has begun with one of my friends who has fallen instantly in love and lust. Poor man had not seen her since she was a young teen so when we walked through his door his jaw dropped....tried to warn him he will get burned but he didn't listen and I think he is about to be thrown into the flames. After seeing how well the diet has worked, it has made us more determined to give it a go once we get organised in the new house.

Catalina

 

[esclave_PP]

First, congratulations on your daughter! That's awesome! She must feel great!

I think I might have mentioned before in this thread that we started the Atkins 4 years ago. After the 2 week induction period where you basically have no carbs, we moved to a modified version of Atkins that included some amount of carbs mostly because you need them when you exercise regularly. We still probably have less than 300 carbs a day, getting them mostly from fruits and vegetables. We'll have the occasional bit of rice or bread but still no pasta, or potatos.

We initially started this because we were both so heavy. I ended up losing 60 pounds. It is pretty easy to maintain but exercise plays a key role in any diet plan you have. As long as you are eating right, exercising and getting enough sleep, triggering the right hormones you will lose weight. Slowly is best! That way you're able to maintain and keep it off. Here is an article about eating to keep your BMR (Body Metabolic Rate) in the right place. According to my personal trainer, if you eat along this rate, putting in the right amount of calories, the hormones especially leptin, will tell your body to shed the fat.

Here are those links:

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.html BMR calculator
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/faqs.html FAQ

http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/bodyweight/leptin.html All about Leptin

http://www.rockefeller.edu/pubinfo/leptinlevel.nr.html Leptin Helps Body Regulate Fat, Links to Diet

http://www.jorbins.com/fitness-sports-magazine/articles/hormones-exercise.php Hormones and Exercise

Good luck Catalina and Francisco!

 

[ownedsubgal]

i have a terrible feeling that in a few years, we will be hearing horror stories about atkins from some of the very people who experienced great success with it initially...to me, it just does not seem like it could be good for the body in the long term. my Master is a big physical fitness buff...works out 5X a week, drinks next to no alcohol, takes vitamins, is careful about what he puts in his body, etc....and he would never dream of going on atkins if he needed to lose weight. He says that it could be very beneficial to SOME people who have a great deal of weight to lose, on a short term basis. but no one should be on it for life, in his opinion, and i have read reports from nutritionists and doctors who agree. i think so many people go the atkins route because 1. it's popular...can't read a paper, turn on the t.v., or walk down a grocery store aisle without being bombarded with atkins info...and 2. many lose weight with it quickly. i don't think those two things equate to a healthy diet.

the best way to lose weight and get in shape is the old-fashioned way...a healthy, balanced (nothing in excess and nothing denied) diet, and a good exercise program. when my Master feels he's a few pounds too heavy, he starts eating smaller portions, and adds a lil kick to his workouts. i've never had a weight problem, but to ensure i stay that way (esp. since i'm not a teenager anymore..sigh), i eat sensibly...lots of small meals, everything in moderation. but i still eat everything i love...cookies and croissants and all that yummy stuff. just every once in a while, in small portions. i also try to workout 3X a week, for about an hour each day. that's the key really..exercise. but many are lazy and want a quick fix.

 

[Betticus]

Awesome!! I'm so glad I checked in on this thread - I got to see the pictures of Catalina and Francisco!

I'm not big on Atkins myself, but that's because I've been a vegetarian for more than 10 years. Vegetarian Atkins means eggs and tofu. More eggs. More tofu. Still more eggs and tofu. No, thanks!

I also don't think the current low-carb supercraze is going to last long. Many people don't understand the way Atkins or South Beach really work - putting yourself into ketosis, the initial phases, etc - they think that cutting carbs is going to make them lose weight, which isn't true. Atkins is great for some people, but it doesn't work for everyone, and a lot of people are going to find that out the hard way and be disappointed.

Well, I've only been a vegetarian for just shy of two months. For some reason I have just gotten a sudden craving for a steak. I know it would make me feel like shit though, like the time I was just starving and had the hamburger. It made me feel lethargic and nasty, hard to describe.

I also can't eat wheat gluten so I'm kind of going nuts figuring out what I can eat. Meal replacement shakes are saving my ass right now. I'm sure I'll figure it all out.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I would never seriously consider Atkins long term either and my daughter's doctor also said it was a short term option he thought was good for her. As for exercise, it is the way to go if you are able but due to health issues the past 3 years I have been unable to maintain any exercise, especially my usual 1 1/2 hours minimum a day exercise with 1-2 hour walks each day as well. I am getting back into it slowly though and hoping my body has not changed it wonderful way of changing shape and tone dramatically within days. LOL, my friends back in Oz were envious of the way I could change my body shape in days while they had to work hard for 6 months to achieve any equally noticeable difference.

Catalina

 

[snowy ciara]

Awesome!! I'm so glad I checked in on this thread - I got to see the pictures of Catalina and Francisco!

What she said.. And what a sexy bunch of posters on this thread too.

 

[Betticus]

I like the pics of Catalina and Francisco. That pic of him was cool, he looks all domly... The background though, reminds me of when I used to live in the Netherlands. All vibrant green with the dairy cows and windmills.

 

[snowy ciara]

Y'know, ShyGuys Av for a long time had shades, Fransisco's pic has shades, (I think I'm going to have to stalk him, now, too. D'you think Catalina will mind?), Incubus_dark has shades on in his av, AA's coolies smilie has shades on. Are shades some sort of weird Domly wardrobe thing? Is this a new trend in fetish clothing?

 

[Betticus]

Y'know, ShyGuys Av for a long time had shades, Fransisco's pic has shades, (I think I'm going to have to stalk him, now, too. D'you think Catalina will mind?), Incubus_dark has shades on in his av, AA's coolies smilie has shades on. Are shades some sort of weird Domly wardrobe thing? Is this a new trend in fetish clothing?

Yeah, we're like G-Men. Men in Black. Black Helicopters and all of that conspiracy stuff. Like the Secret Service, Dom's must have sunglasses. It keeps the evil that we long to do inside us.


I'm always leaning toward the south beach diet approach to eating for a healthy way of life but since I can't eat wheat products I have to go for other grains and sources of good carbs. My meal replacement shakes are nutritionally complete for everything but calories, they are shy on those but I prefer to get my caloric intake from slower absorbing sources so I can avoid the insulin spike. Keeps the blood sugar optimal.

 

[esclave_PP]

Just to clarify, we don't do "Atkins" per se anymore. Haven't for a couple of years. We just try to balance out what we eat, proteins, fats, carbs, the usual. And lots of exercise. Bloody exercise. Actually sleep helps a lot too. And well, lack of stress.

 

[shy slave]

Wow

I am glad I wandered in great to see the before and after pics of masternico plus pics of catalina and francisco.

Atkins had alot of bad press over here, woman I work with follows it and has lost 2 stone which is ummmm?? 30lbs, i think.

I would followit but after what Masternico said about his dick getting bigger worried I would grow one. How would I explain that

 

[Bondagebunni]

if you're worried about the affects of the atkins diet long-term pick up the book "the china study" when it comes out (i don't think it's out yet) It's an amazing study done in china on the effects of animal products on over-all long term health. (and it supports the best publishers ever to exist) /plug.

But seriously, it's an alternative for those who're skeptical.

Good luck to everyone!

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Negative ...

Are shades some sort of weird Domly wardrobe thing? Is this a new trend in fetish clothing?

i just look good.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/363868/GrumpyShades.jpg

How delish post and edit will be.

 

[esclave_PP]

Nice shades!

 

[Gekken]

Atkins bad. excercise good

heya folks, I just came across this thread, and I don;t remember how (drunk)


Here's the deal. if you wanna do Atkins, don't. period. the weightloss is the result of a thing called ketoacidosis.

http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic135.htm

I have been a medic for a while, so this link is somewhat geared towards trauma treatment, not prophylaxis (http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=12063)

here is how Atkins died:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/atkinsmed1.html

the USAToday link below

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-10-atkins-statements_x.htm

staes that CHF was not at issue. I have been at a few dances and this is bullshit.


EXERCISE

I am not a hypocrite. I have recently lost 70# with a reasonable excercise regime. I still drink, I eat what I want, but my cravings have changed. listen, please.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I find all of the horror stories quite interesting.

Especially when you look at the STANDARD AMERICAN DIET- not what the USDA says we should eat, but the way we really eat. I don't believe for a second that Atkins is worse.

Most people (doctors included) who claim that it is are misinformed about what Atkins actually is...

 

[canadiancutie]

I find all of the horror stories quite interesting.

Especially when you look at the STANDARD AMERICAN DIET- not what the USDA says we should eat, but the way we really eat. I don't believe for a second that Atkins is worse.

Most people (doctors included) who claim that it is are misinformed about what Atkins actually is...

I made up my own version of atkins...because they don't have a vegan version...it was pretty much just eating lettuce and soy ice cream

 

[sweetnpetite]

. but no one should be on it for life, in his opinion, and i have read reports from nutritionists and doctors who agree.

Most people, doctors included make the common mistake of thinking that Atkins is only the first phase and that's it. It's not. There are 4 phases, and the long term phase includes *whole grains* rather than the white grains which American's usually eat- and which aren't particularly healthy, according to even mainstream nutritionists.

 

[Netzach]

I've been on something like a stricter weirder South Beach, which is geared towards people with intestinal problems, and has helped many. It's commonly known as "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" and a nice side effect has been about 35 pounds that needed to go going, all while I feel healthier and better.

The idea is not so much the elimination of all carbs. Green peas have carbs, bananas have carbs, honey has carbs, raisins and prunes have carbs, and I eat lots of the above.

What is eliminated completely is any kind of sugar other than honey, and any kind of flour or potato or starch. Yes, no rice. No bread, unless you make it out of ground-up almonds.

We need fiber, you may be saying in protest...yes we do. So I get it from veggies and fruit, lots of each, and I'm lucky in that I can tolerate these foods. I don't get it from wheat, whole or otherwise. I don't get it from brown rice, oatmeal or any of those sources. I get it from carrots, squash, prunes, peaches, apples, you name it.

A lot of MD's grudgingly admit that this diet is nutritionally quite sound and not especially dangerous to your health in the long term, while they poo-poo the possibility of good effects on intestinal issues, despite the fact that thousands of people seem to have improved eating this way, but that's another issue of mine.

Suffice it to say I don't like the first stage of atkins or any of these things taken to insane extremes, but I have found better health overall, better digestion, and much better weight when I ditched on sugar and refined white flour. Those things are doing no one any favors.

 

[Betticus]

I had to abandon veganism/vegetarianism as it was causing me to gain a lot of weight.

 

[caela]

I had to abandon veganism/vegetarianism as it was causing me to gain a lot of weight.

I would think you'd lose weight eating a vegetarian diet. Interesting.

 

[FurryFury]

MUST have starches~

Being a veggie I live off of my starches!

Fury

 

[canadiancutie]

I would think you'd lose weight eating a vegetarian diet. Interesting.

Actually it's really common if you aren't super careful about your diet. Generally when people go veggie or vegan, they replace meat with fats or carbs instead of more protein rich options.

 

[canadiancutie]

MUST have starches~

Being a veggie I live off of my starches!

Fury

haha that's exactly what I was like when I went veggie.

 

[FurryFury]

I had to abandon veganism/vegetarianism as it was causing me to gain a lot of weight.

Why and how?

Fury