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Le Jacquelope

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Why do people like this get to walk the streets in safety?

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...Dollars-Flushed-Down-John-Thains-$35K-Commode

Billions of Taxpayer Dollars Flushed Down John Thain's $35K Commode
Posted Jan 23, 2009 01:36pm EST by Aaron Task
Related: BAC, GS, JPM, XLF, MS, ^GSPC, ^DJI

Just when you thought the greed and avarice on Wall Street couldn't possibly get any worse, Thursday brought revelations of John Thain's disgusting behavior. The imperial CEOs of the late 1990's-early 2000s - Enron's Key Lay, WorldCom's Bernie Ebbers and Tyco's Dennis Kozlowski - got nothing on this guy when it comes to pillaging from shareholders.

But Thain's abuse of U.S. taxpayers puts him in a far worse category.

In mid-December, at the same time Bank of America's Ken Lewis was begging Washington DC for what became $20 billion more in bailout money, Thain secretly approved an accelerated bonus pool of $15 billion for top Merrill employees. (Oh the irony: the $15 billion bonus pool essentially matched Merrill fourth-quarter loss, which is what sent Lewis into a panic in the first place.)

All other of Thain's sins pale in comparison to this dastardly act, which New York State AG Andrew Cuomo is investigating, but let's list them anyway:

* Grossly understating the extent of Merrill's potential losses from Bank of America - assuming the latter firm's stance is to be believed: "The facts are that [Merrill's] fourth quarter was way beyond anything they said would happen," BofA spokesman Robert Stickler told The WSJ.
* Neglecting to personally tell Ken Lewis about Merrill's $15.3 billion loss, and going ahead with a pre-planned ski trip when the losses came to light.
* Stumping for his own bonus late last year before backing down in the face of public outrage.
* Spending $1.2 million of Merrill shareholder's money to redecorate his office in early 2008, including $87,000 for an area rug, $28,000 on curtains (shades of Kozlowski), 15,000 for a sofa, and $35,000 for a "commode on legs," etc.

Of course, Thain is innocent of any crime until proven guilty - and we certainly hope he gets his day in court.

As for Ken Lewis, whether he was the victim of Thain's fraud or his own incompetence, letting Thain go really should be his last act at BofA.
 
Get rid of the politicians who let these guys pillage and plunder.
 
Sounds like he pissed away stockholder money, not taxpayer money. Big difference. Stockholders pony up their cash voluntarily, and can take it back (and fire his ass) any time they choose to......Carney
 
Sounds like he pissed away stockholder money, not taxpayer money. Big difference. Stockholders pony up their cash voluntarily, and can take it back (and fire his ass) any time they choose to......Carney

I don't believe La-Joke-A-Lope actually does understand the difference.

 
Sounds like he pissed away stockholder money, not taxpayer money. Big difference. Stockholders pony up their cash voluntarily, and can take it back (and fire his ass) any time they choose to......Carney
Wrong. When the company came to Uncle Sam looking for a bailout and got the bailout, money they spent became taxpayers' money.

Of course, I've got an entire country backing up my position on this. Who do you have? A handful of AHers?

That's quite a precarious position you're taking a stand on.
 


It was wrong of me to think La-Joke-A-Lope was clueless about nearly everything.

He has a doctorate in envy.


 
I laughed when I saw this thread and figured it'd be a cat fight.

Yeah La Jacqalope has a valid question.

Thain took the taxpayers money and then sent out the bonus's. Considering that the Government was now one of his stockholders, after saving his ass and Merrills, he may have over stepped the bounds of his office. Oh why after a disastrous Quarter or year were any bonus's offered in the first place?

I expect that his Board of Directors bear equal responsibility for this and should be in the dock with him.

When are we going to draw the line on things. We do not cry when a cop killer gets gunned down in Fla. but let a Ivy Leager get caught and suddenly we hear the clammor for "His Rights."

He and the ponzy scheam guy ought too be in jail and restricted to three visits a week.
 
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I laughed when I saw this thread and figured it'd be a cat fight.

Yeah La Jacqalope has a valid question.

Thain took the taxpayers money and then sent out the bonus's. Considering that the Government was now one of his stockholders
The Government? A stockholder? Oh now shut yo mouth! :D

after saving his ass and Merrills, he may have over stepped the bounds of his office. Oh why after a disastrous Quarter or year were any bonus's offered in the first place?

I expect that his Board of Directors bear equal responsibility for this and should be in the dock with him.

When are we going to draw the line on things. We do not cry when a cop killer gets gunned down in Fla. but let a Ivy Leager get caught and suddenly we hear the clammor for "His Rights."

He and the ponzy scheam guy ought too be in jail and restricted to three visits a week.
And put him in the general public section of the jail, too.
 
The Government? A stockholder? Oh now shut yo mouth! :D
Well the act of putting equity into a business makes one a share holder in the enterprize. That is what I thought Paulson's deal was to in effect buy into the companies and direct a resolution?

[QUOTEAnd put him in the general public section of the jail, too.


Yeah just cause he's a theif on a grand scale is no reason to treat him any other way.
 
This is why we shouldn't be closing Guantanamo Bay -- we should be sending Thain and his ilk down there. We should be waterboarding Madoff to find out where he's stashed all the money.
 
This is why we shouldn't be closing Guantanamo Bay -- we should be sending Thain and his ilk down there. We should be waterboarding Madoff to find out where he's stashed all the money.

OMG another disaffected Democrat! :eek::):):D
 
This is why we shouldn't be closing Guantanamo Bay -- we should be sending Thain and his ilk down there. We should be waterboarding Madoff to find out where he's stashed all the money.

But I thought it had been established that torture doesn't really get reliable intelligence.
 
This is why we shouldn't be closing Guantanamo Bay -- we should be sending Thain and his ilk down there. We should be waterboarding Madoff to find out where he's stashed all the money.
I say we waterboard Madoff just because.
 
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