Area 51

[ms_ann_thrope]

The Government Now Admits There's an 'Area 51'

I always assumed it was between Area 50 and Area 52.

 

[warrior queen]

I like their 'UFO's were really just experimental planes', while almost half the released papers are blacked out!
The conspiracy-theory, tinfoil-hat brigade is going to go nuts!

 

[phrodeau]

I like their 'UFO's were really just experimental planes', while almost half the released papers are blacked out!
The conspiracy-theory, tinfoil-hat brigade is going to go nuts!

It's a form of job creation.

 

[BotanyBoy]

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I like their 'UFO's were really just experimental planes', while almost half the released papers are blacked out!
The conspiracy-theory, tinfoil-hat brigade is going to go nuts!

I don't care how much of any UFO documents have been redacted, any aliens who may have visited earth could not be described as "life as we know it," because life as we know it appears to be constrained by general relativity physics which posits the speed of light as a most emphatic "terminal velocity" (if I may take license with the phrase).

Any alien civilization smart enough to transcend the relativity constraint (which they would certainly have had to have done since there are no planet bearing stars in our immediate galactic neighborhood) would have certainly been advanced enough not to have "crashed" here and left their crumpled vehicles and deceased passengers and crew littering the Mojave Desert.

Area 51 is now as it has always been -- a secluded military base for testing advanced, but wholly earth-born aircraft.

 

[warrior queen]

I don't care how much of any UFO documents have been redacted, any aliens who may have visited earth could not be described as "life as we know it," because life as we know it appears to be constrained by general relativity physics which posits the speed of light as a most emphatic "terminal velocity" (if I may take license with the phrase).

Any alien civilization smart enough to transcend the relativity constraint (which they would certainly have had to have done since there are no planet bearing stars in our immediate galactic neighborhood) would have certainly been advanced enough not to have "crashed" here and left their crumpled vehicles and deceased passengers and crew littering the Mojave Desert.

Area 51 is now as it has always been -- a secluded military base for testing advanced, but wholly earth-born aircraft.

No alfoil on you!

 

[kbate]

I don't care how much of any UFO documents have been redacted, any aliens who may have visited earth could not be described as "life as we know it," because life as we know it appears to be constrained by general relativity physics which posits the speed of light as a most emphatic "terminal velocity" (if I may take license with the phrase).

Any alien civilization smart enough to transcend the relativity constraint (which they would certainly have had to have done since there are no planet bearing stars in our immediate galactic neighborhood) would have certainly been advanced enough not to have "crashed" here and left their crumpled vehicles and deceased passengers and crew littering the Mojave Desert.

Area 51 is now as it has always been -- a secluded military base for testing advanced, but wholly earth-born aircraft.

We are advanced enough to fly aircraft across the oceans at supersonic speeds, yet somehow despite our smarts, our tech and our regulations an airliner breaks and crashes among the fishes and more alarmingly among the oceanic mammals, who may be one mere crash from understanding our technology and taking over the world. How many crashed fighters are now being studied in some secret base guarded by dozens of killer whales?

 

[Recidiva]

It's a shame Edward Snowden didn't find the secret cache of cell phone calls at area 51.

Alas, I do not believe in aliens, not because I lack a poetic soul, but because I think the physics of the thing are ridiculous.

Stellar travel to Earth for whatever reason would be like a human walking across the US from ocean to ocean to get a drink of water on the other side.

Any intelligent life...not going to send out a mission for that reason. Sorry Star Trek. It's unviable.

And certainly not to probe butts.

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

I don't care how much of any UFO documents have been redacted, any aliens who may have visited earth could not be described as "life as we know it," because life as we know it appears to be constrained by general relativity physics which posits the speed of light as a most emphatic "terminal velocity" (if I may take license with the phrase).

Any alien civilization smart enough to transcend the relativity constraint (which they would certainly have had to have done since there are no planet bearing stars in our immediate galactic neighborhood) would have certainly been advanced enough not to have "crashed" here and left their crumpled vehicles and deceased passengers and crew littering the Mojave Desert.

Area 51 is now as it has always been -- a secluded military base for testing advanced, but wholly earth-born aircraft.

Considering the staggering mathematical improbability of evolution occurring somewhere else I find the idea of other sentient beings improbable but not impossible.

I believe that Area 51 is doing reverse engineering on technology left behind by earth time travelers. This is farfetched but has the same likelihood of aliens.

 

[Recidiva]

Considering the staggering mathematical improbability of evolution occurring somewhere else I find the idea of other sentient beings improbable but not impossible.

I believe that Area 51 is doing reverse engineering on technology left behind by earth time travelers. This is farfetched but has the same likelihood of aliens.

How is time travel somehow more efficient than space travel?

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

How is time travel somehow more efficient than space travel?

If I knew this I would be employed at NASA instead of waiting tables and getting leered at by fat truckers.

 

[Recidiva]

If I knew this I would be employed at NASA instead of waiting tables and getting leered at by fat truckers.

Fair enough. From my understanding time travel is possible if you have infinite energy.

If you have infinite energy you can make your own replica of earth and every possibility of existence on it over and over closer to home and have enough left over to..well...make anything else you want ever.

 

[Recidiva]

Transporters won't work because of the data crunching and error margin.

Heisenberg's principle means you can't know where all particles are, their trajectory, their mass, their velocity.

If we don't know where everything in a living body is going. Bad news. You don't mind if you're not alive on the other side, do you?

Most likely we'd encounter mechanical or biochanical probes that travel long distances. Not whoever made them, they probably gots stuff to do in the intervening billion years.

I just made up the word biochanical by the way.

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

Transporters won't work because of the data crunching and error margin.

Heisenberg's principle means you can't know where all particles are, their trajectory, their mass, their velocity.

If we don't know where everything in a living body is going. Bad news. You don't mind if you're not alive on the other side, do you?

Most likely we'd encounter mechanical or biochanical probes that travel long distances. Not whoever made them, they probably gots stuff to do in the intervening billion years.

I just made up the word biochanical by the way.

The technology boggles the mind but I don't believe anything is impossible as crazy as some things seem. Many things considered impossible at one time is everyday household technology today.

 

[Recidiva]

The technology boggles the mind but I don't believe anything is impossible as crazy as some things seem. Many things considered impossible at one time is everyday household technology today.

I didn't say impossible. Just improbable with any of the methods suggested so far.

I'm sure someone will come up with something, but I doubt after that fact, they'll show up on Earth and say "Look what we made! Oh. Right. You guys still poop."

 

[SeaDaddy1]

Transporters won't work because of the data crunching and error margin.

Heisenberg's principle means you can't know where all particles are, their trajectory, their mass, their velocity.

If we don't know where everything in a living body is going. Bad news. You don't mind if you're not alive on the other side, do you?

Most likely we'd encounter mechanical or biochanical probes that travel long distances. Not whoever made them, they probably gots stuff to do in the intervening billion years.

I just made up the word biochanical by the way.

Chekov can do 'zat'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LambIJjkamg

 

[Recidiva]

Chekov can do 'zat'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LambIJjkamg

In J. J. Abrams universe, sense and science do not exist.

Of course he can do zat, he doesn't have to think about how. He just reads the script.

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

I didn't say impossible. Just improbable with any of the methods suggested so far.

I'm sure someone will come up with something, but I doubt after that fact, they'll show up on Earth and say "Look what we made! Oh. Right. You guys still poop."

I do think time travel would be more destructive than productive. The meddlesome humans would wish to stop tragic events such as the Holocaust, maybe even the crucifiction of Christ. But changing these events could have unforeseen backlash that could be catastrophic. While I hope we invent teleportation I hope time travel will stay impossible. I would be even happier if they first cured cancer. AIDS, war, famine, birth defects and men with small penises.

 

[Recidiva]

I do think time travel would be more destructive than productive. The meddlesome humans would wish to stop tragic events such as the Holocaust, maybe even the crucifiction of Christ. But changing these events could have unforeseen backlash that could be catastrophic. While I hope we invent teleportation I hope time travel will stay impossible. I would be even happier if they first cured cancer. AIDS, war, famine, birth defects and

men with small penises.

Robert Heinlein did a good job portraying some time travel with success. Since you had infinite time and infinite chances (his characters were also essentially immortal at this point) they had the motto of "A Paradox can be Paradoctored."

You're just determined to offend people, aren't you?

 

[SeaDaddy1]

In J. J. Abrams universe, sense and science do not exist.

Of course he can do zat, he doesn't have to think about how. He just reads the script.

You're no fun this morning.

 

[Kiss_me_gently]

Robert Heinlein did a good job portraying some time travel with success. Since you had infinite time and infinite chances (his characters were also essentially immortal at this point) they had the motto of "A Paradox can be Paradoctored."

You're just determined to offend people, aren't you?

There are no small penises on the internet so exactly who here could possibly be offended besides KRC?

 

[Recidiva]

You're no fun this morning.

I hate J. J. Abrams. I think it would be a public service to remove him from breathing status.

I'm a Star Trek fan and the reboot is insulting and unwatchable.

Jon Stewart said it best. J.J. Abrams said that Star Trek was "too intellectual" and he didn't understand it as a kid. Jon's response was "I stopped listening, but your lips were still moving, so I assumed you were apologizing."

Hate that guy. *spit*

 

[SeaDaddy1]

I hate J. J. Abrams. I think it would be a public service to remove him from breathing status.

I'm a Star Trek fan and the reboot is insulting and unwatchable.

Jon Stewart said it best. J.J. Abrams said that Star Trek was "too intellectual" and he didn't understand it as a kid. Jon's response was "I stopped listening, but your lips were still moving, so I assumed you were apologizing."

Hate that guy. *spit*

It's just fiction. Too many people take it too serious sometimes. I fancy myself a Trek fan too, but welcome the new blood. It's as close to TOS as this generation is going to get to keep the franchise rolling.

 

[Recidiva]

It's just fiction. Too many people take it too serious sometimes. I fancy myself a Trek fan too, but welcome the new blood. It's as close to TOS as this generation is going to get to keep the franchise rolling.

Okay, but I have problems with this in lots of fields. There are favorites that people have for certain reasons and rewriting them and losing all the original elements is disrespectful.

You can't do "Sweeney Todd" and hire people who are famous but can't sing to do the parts. It's disrespectful to those who love the original because of the acrobatics that good singers can pull off when performing Sondheim. Stuff Johnny Depp can't do.

I'm the first to say that Star Trek was goofy, campy fun, but it did make an attempt to be science fiction and not just fantasy.

Fantasy is "a wizard did it" which is what J. J. Abrams does. I'm also a fantasy fan and I don't expect to get explanations of magic. But that's why it's fantasy. There are those of us who know and love science the same way you could love Sondheim, and having someone who doesn't understand it make it "awesomer!" by evicting science from the equation...and strategy (which Kirk was awesome at, by the way) and philosophy (Spock) and romance (McCoy said what about his ex-wife, the Southern Gentleman?! What the fuck Karl Urban?!) is deserving of metaphorical disgust.