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Ebola is a joke for me. I'm rich as hell and even if I get infected with Ebola, I could afford the best doctors around to get me cured and that's the power of wealth.
Are you worried about Ebola?
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There is no cure for Ebola...not all the money on Earth will generate one.
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Actually, how many of the people of the top professionals in the world in the field of pharmacolgy and medicine have been involved in the process of inventing the prevention of Ebola?
None. Either, they're not contributing to the humanity or they lack the money.
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Also might be because it's not worth their time as currently there are much bigger disease threats, like the Flu and beetus.
And even if it became an imperative that they do such research? It could take quite some time before any cure is developed. Considerably longer than it takes Ebola to run it's course.
Sorry that's going to be a "Ride it out" problem right up until it's knocking the human population down a notch by the end of the month, by then it will be too late. So unless you have a few hundred billion and a private medical research facility to work on this rather non issue virus, if you catch it you ride it out and hope for the best. Still a decent chance it could kill you though.
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Put your money where your mouth is..... fly to Liberia, fuck an ebola infected person, wait till after the incubation period, hire the best doctor on earth.....Keep us informed on your progress..........
Interesting article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nightmare-prospect-virus-mutate-airborne.html
"Doomsday warning: UN Ebola chief raises 'nightmare' prospect that virus could mutate and become airborne - making it much more infectious"
"UN warns Ebola virus currently plaguing West Africa could become airborne
The longer it moves between human hosts the greater possibility of mutation
The risk grows the longer virus is living within the human 'melting pot'
NGOs have said the Ebola virus is currently infecting five people every hour
More than 3,300 people have died from Ebola since the outbreak first began
Officials call for 1,000 new Sierra Leone isolation centres to contain virus
British survivor says 'horror' of children dying from disease must be avoided
Will Pooley was first Briton to contract virus after working in Sierra Leone
Thomas Eric Duncan is the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S.
He flew into Texas from Liberia, touching down in Brussels and Washington
Up to 100 people in Texas are feared to have come into contact with him
Doctors at the hospital in Texas said he was in a serious but stable condition"
"The longer the Ebola epidemic continues infecting people unabated the higher the chances it will mutate and become airborne, the UN's Ebola response chief has warned.
Anthony Banbury, the Secretary General's Special Representative, has said there is a 'nightmare' prospect the deadly disease will become airborne if it continues infecting new hosts.
His comments come as organisations battling the crisis in West Africa warned the international community has just four weeks to stop its spread before it spirals 'completely out of control'."
And yes, I know it's from the hated Daily Mail. I, for one, appreciate what they do, including the fact they always seem to include a lot of photos. I think I'm capable of sorting the wheat from the chaff. At least there's something to sort, which is often not the case in the US.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nightmare-prospect-virus-mutate-airborne.html
"Doomsday warning: UN Ebola chief raises 'nightmare' prospect that virus could mutate and become airborne - making it much more infectious"
"UN warns Ebola virus currently plaguing West Africa could become airborne
The longer it moves between human hosts the greater possibility of mutation
The risk grows the longer virus is living within the human 'melting pot'
NGOs have said the Ebola virus is currently infecting five people every hour
More than 3,300 people have died from Ebola since the outbreak first began
Officials call for 1,000 new Sierra Leone isolation centres to contain virus
British survivor says 'horror' of children dying from disease must be avoided
Will Pooley was first Briton to contract virus after working in Sierra Leone
Thomas Eric Duncan is the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S.
He flew into Texas from Liberia, touching down in Brussels and Washington
Up to 100 people in Texas are feared to have come into contact with him
Doctors at the hospital in Texas said he was in a serious but stable condition"
"The longer the Ebola epidemic continues infecting people unabated the higher the chances it will mutate and become airborne, the UN's Ebola response chief has warned.
Anthony Banbury, the Secretary General's Special Representative, has said there is a 'nightmare' prospect the deadly disease will become airborne if it continues infecting new hosts.
His comments come as organisations battling the crisis in West Africa warned the international community has just four weeks to stop its spread before it spirals 'completely out of control'."
And yes, I know it's from the hated Daily Mail. I, for one, appreciate what they do, including the fact they always seem to include a lot of photos. I think I'm capable of sorting the wheat from the chaff. At least there's something to sort, which is often not the case in the US.
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Forbes magazine is not as bullish on airborne Ebola.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2014/09/03/can-ebola-go-airborne/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2014/09/03/can-ebola-go-airborne/
I think airborne Ebola is a longshot, but I've been burned many a time at the track by longshots.
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Yesterday, out on the beach, a kid dug up a hand grenade from World War 2. Its been there 70 years. Bathers have played over it forever. Prolly a dud.
So should public safety folks blow it off like they want us to blow off ebola?
So should public safety folks blow it off like they want us to blow off ebola?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/julia-pierson-disney-world_n_5920468.html
"Julia Pierson Wanted To Run Secret Service 'Like Disney World': Washington Post"
Julia isn't the only one in the federal government who thinks this way:
“We need to be more like Disney World. We need to be more friendly, inviting.”
Newsflash. This ain't Disney World, and never will be.
"Julia Pierson Wanted To Run Secret Service 'Like Disney World': Washington Post"
Julia isn't the only one in the federal government who thinks this way:
“We need to be more like Disney World. We need to be more friendly, inviting.”
Newsflash. This ain't Disney World, and never will be.
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I am no longer worried about eBully because the President is on the case.
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For myself and my family, not especially concerned. Sir and I both have a health care background and know/practice good hygiene. I've endeavored to teach my children the same.
I spent the early 80s working at a major hospital in NYC for a pulmonary specialist. He was one of the first to document pneumocystis pneumonia (a component of HIV/AIDS). We also had several TB cases. Quite honestly, I was much more afraid of getting TB than I EVER was of HIV. Ebola is even more difficult to become infected with than HIV.
Observe good hygiene (hand washing, covering open wounds, etc) and stay safe.
I spent the early 80s working at a major hospital in NYC for a pulmonary specialist. He was one of the first to document pneumocystis pneumonia (a component of HIV/AIDS). We also had several TB cases. Quite honestly, I was much more afraid of getting TB than I EVER was of HIV. Ebola is even more difficult to become infected with than HIV.
Observe good hygiene (hand washing, covering open wounds, etc) and stay safe.
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Does Sir beat you with his whip?
Makes one wonder what the hazmat suits are about.
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The problem isn't ebola per se its professional/official incompetence and misconduct. I'll bet money the Liberian dude was sent away from the hospital because he has no insurance or money. Can you imagine how expensive his care is? So ebola will spread because of passing the buck.
Here yuh go! Impossible to catch!
http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...icles/bn9/2014/10/2/ebola_cameraman_libe.html
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Really!
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Because when you're moving patients, treating patients, cleaning up bed pans, vomit, bathing the patients, etc, there's a pretty good chance of coming in to contact with bodily fluids.
Because when you're moving patients, treating patients, cleaning up bed pans, vomit, bathing the patients, etc, there's a pretty good chance of coming in to contact with bodily fluids.
No shit. Ever notice people don't wear hazmat suits when treating people with HIV?
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ER doctors don't give a shit if someone has insurance or not.
He was sent away because that's what happens when someone comes to an ER with a fever and no symptoms of anything else.
Historically they haven't had any reason for greater concern. Their minds weren't in the Liberia+fever maybe = ebola.
I wouldn't be surprised if the doctor didn't even know he was from Liberia, it would have been the intake clerk who was told.
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ok, yeah, I get where you're coming from.
I don't know what that means.
Ebola in the air? A nightmare that could happen
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/12/health/ebola-airborne/
"(CNN) -- Today, the Ebola virus spreads only through direct contact with bodily fluids, such as blood and vomit. But some of the nation's top infectious disease experts worry that this deadly virus could mutate and be transmitted just by a cough or a sneeze.
"It's the single greatest concern I've ever had in my 40-year public health career," said Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "I can't imagine anything in my career -- and this includes HIV -- that would be more devastating to the world than a respiratory transmissible Ebola virus."
Osterholm and other experts couldn't think of another virus that has made the transition from non-airborne to airborne in humans. They say the chances are relatively small that Ebola will make that jump. But as the virus spreads, they warned, the likelihood increases.
Every time a new person gets Ebola, the virus gets another chance to mutate and develop new capabilities. Osterholm calls it "genetic roulette."
As of October 1, there have been more than 7,100 cases of Ebola, with 3,330 deaths, according to the World Health Organization, which has said the virus is spreading at a much faster rate than it was earlier in the outbreak.
Ebola is an RNA virus, which means every time it copies itself, it makes one or two mutations. Many of those mutations mean nothing, but some of them might be able to change the way the virus behaves inside the human body.
"Imagine every time you copy an essay, you change a word or two. Eventually, it's going to change the meaning of the essay," said Dr. C.J. Peters, one of the heroes featured in "The Hot Zone."
That book chronicles the 1989 outbreak of Ebola Reston, which was transmitted among monkeys by breathing. In 2012, Canadian researchers found that Ebola Zaire, which is involved in the current outbreak, was passed from pigs to monkeys in the air.
Dr. James Le Duc, the director of the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas, said the problem is that no one is keeping track of the mutations happening across West Africa, so no one really knows what the virus has become.
One group of researchers looked at how Ebola changed over a short period of time in just one area in Sierra Leone early on in the outbreak, before it was spreading as fast as it is now. They found more than 300 genetic changes in the virus.
"It's frightening to look at how much this virus mutated within just three weeks," said Dr. Pardis Sabeti, an associate professor at Harvard and senior associate member of the Broad Institute, where the research was done.
Even without becoming airborne, the virus has overwhelmed efforts to stop it.
Osterholm commended groups like Doctors Without Borders but said uncoordinated efforts by individual organizations are no match for Ebola spreading swiftly through urban areas.
"This is largely dysfunctional. Nobody's in command, and nobody's in charge," he said. "It's like not having air traffic control at an airport. The planes would just crash into each other.""
Genetic roulette, indeed.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/12/health/ebola-airborne/
"(CNN) -- Today, the Ebola virus spreads only through direct contact with bodily fluids, such as blood and vomit. But some of the nation's top infectious disease experts worry that this deadly virus could mutate and be transmitted just by a cough or a sneeze.
"It's the single greatest concern I've ever had in my 40-year public health career," said Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "I can't imagine anything in my career -- and this includes HIV -- that would be more devastating to the world than a respiratory transmissible Ebola virus."
Osterholm and other experts couldn't think of another virus that has made the transition from non-airborne to airborne in humans. They say the chances are relatively small that Ebola will make that jump. But as the virus spreads, they warned, the likelihood increases.
Every time a new person gets Ebola, the virus gets another chance to mutate and develop new capabilities. Osterholm calls it "genetic roulette."
As of October 1, there have been more than 7,100 cases of Ebola, with 3,330 deaths, according to the World Health Organization, which has said the virus is spreading at a much faster rate than it was earlier in the outbreak.
Ebola is an RNA virus, which means every time it copies itself, it makes one or two mutations. Many of those mutations mean nothing, but some of them might be able to change the way the virus behaves inside the human body.
"Imagine every time you copy an essay, you change a word or two. Eventually, it's going to change the meaning of the essay," said Dr. C.J. Peters, one of the heroes featured in "The Hot Zone."
That book chronicles the 1989 outbreak of Ebola Reston, which was transmitted among monkeys by breathing. In 2012, Canadian researchers found that Ebola Zaire, which is involved in the current outbreak, was passed from pigs to monkeys in the air.
Dr. James Le Duc, the director of the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas, said the problem is that no one is keeping track of the mutations happening across West Africa, so no one really knows what the virus has become.
One group of researchers looked at how Ebola changed over a short period of time in just one area in Sierra Leone early on in the outbreak, before it was spreading as fast as it is now. They found more than 300 genetic changes in the virus.
"It's frightening to look at how much this virus mutated within just three weeks," said Dr. Pardis Sabeti, an associate professor at Harvard and senior associate member of the Broad Institute, where the research was done.
Even without becoming airborne, the virus has overwhelmed efforts to stop it.
Osterholm commended groups like Doctors Without Borders but said uncoordinated efforts by individual organizations are no match for Ebola spreading swiftly through urban areas.
"This is largely dysfunctional. Nobody's in command, and nobody's in charge," he said. "It's like not having air traffic control at an airport. The planes would just crash into each other.""
Genetic roulette, indeed.
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I bet Sir will beat her with His whip if she catches the Ebola!
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Touab...
Stop worrying about something that cannot happen. The President is all over this.
Stop worrying about something that cannot happen. The President is all over this.
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This seems to upset your Not-Republican sensibilities.
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