Anyone for a nightcap?

[Keroin]

It IS killing me! Typos hanging out there.

I know. I hate it when everyone can see my dangling participles. (They didn't dangle so much when I was in my twenties, I swear).

 

[BiBunny]

Hi LB! Good to see you again!

Yes, all dogs are different. I have two dear friends who owned a black lab that was...I hate to say it...almost untrainable. They had owned and successfully trained dogs before but Max, wow, he was from another planet. Planet Hyperactive. Unfortunately, labs are over bred, (as are golden retrievers and many other breeds), so I have a feeling that was a contributing factor. They knocked themselves out trying to get him to at least a functional level of behaviour. He finally settled down...at the age of five.

So, there are exceptions but as you mentioned the choke collar should not be the first method of training. And most people do not know how to use them and do not take the time to learn. The majority of dogs do not need a choke collar, or even the gentle leader, to be trained properly.

And, frankly, from the thousands of dogs and owners I saw at the clinic and continue to see in daily life, what I see is that the majority of dog owners are just lazy and/or uneducated.

Have a good flight!

I have no idea if this has been your experience, but what I've seen from people, it seems to be that they're too afraid that Pookie might get mad at them if they discipline him.

Admittedly, most of my experience comes from the horse world. I've done my time helping two different horse trainers. It's ridiculous what people will let horses get away with. These are 1000+ pound animals, folks! They can and will hurt you, even if it's just an accident.

It's disgusting, really. But from what I've seen of other pet owners (not just horse owners), it's more of the same. An untrained or badly-trained animal is not just a nuisance; it's a danger to the people around it.

And, God, how many horses have been shipped off to be slaughtered in Mexico under heinous conditions because they weren't manageable, so nobody wanted them? Ninety-nine times out of 100, it's not the horses' faults. People failed them by not training them because, God forbid, we hurt their feelings or get off our lazy asses and take the time to train them.

Er...I'll stop now before I get on my soapbox any higher than I already am.

 

[intothewoods]

Ramps?

And yes, Boca burgers do well on the grill. I get the larger size at Costco.

A ramp is a type of wild leek. Flavor is supah yum.

 

[midwestyankee]

A ramp is a type of wild leek. Flavor is supah yum.

Will keep this in mind.

Tonight: Red Diamond cabernet sauvignon. One of the best $8 bottles out there. I'm thinking that the last half glass will go beautifully with the first whoopie pie of the season.

 

[Netzach]

Netz, I'm glad to hear that you're back out there having the occasional glass.

TY, I missed this! Sure felt like that was never gonna happen again at one point.

In the interest of not getting too stupid tonight's nightcap will consist of edamame, green tea and miso while M gets a plate of sushi. We've been doing a lot of late night happy houring locally as our sleep schedules have been whack.

 

[midwestyankee]

TY, I missed this! Sure felt like that was never gonna happen again at one point.

In the interest of not getting too stupid tonight's nightcap will consist of edamame, green tea and miso while M gets a plate of sushi. We've been doing a lot of late night happy houring locally as our sleep schedules have been whack.

Gotcha. You'll be back at Psycho Suzi's in no time, my friend.

 

[CurlyKat]

So, there are exceptions but as you mentioned the choke collar should not be the first method of training. And most people do not know how to use them and do not take the time to learn. The majority of dogs do not need a choke collar, or even the gentle leader, to be trained properly.

And, frankly, from the thousands of dogs and owners I saw at the clinic and continue to see in daily life, what I see is that the majority of dog owners are just lazy and/or uneducated.

Yes. In my current work environment, which is dealing with dogs in every way all day long, I'm amazed at owner laziness. It really does the dog a diservice. And don't even try to tell the new owners that they really shouldn't start training with a shock collar. They look at you like you're out of your mind that there's any other way to train a dog. Makes me angry.

Not to mention that there are some breeds, that when not trained properly, that can be dangerous.

 

[Soumis]

moscato....

 

[trojan_man_co]

Fire side....

Tonight for me is a fireside.....

cognac and amaretto mixture served straight up... very warming and great sipping cocktail.

 

[trojan_man_co]

mmmm margs...

today i had a KILLER marg from a new recipy which went amazingly well with my fajitas i made for dinner for some friends... if any one would like so said recipy it is a tad bit odd but it is truely the tastyest marg ive ever had.

 

[Soumis]

Shiner...

 

[midwestyankee]

Shiner...

Shiner's bock beer is one of my favorites when I'm in Texas.

 

[Keroin]

Nothing tonight but tomorrow will be martinis and weenies!

 

[Soumis]

Shiner's bock beer is one of my favorites when I'm in Texas.

It makes me sad to think they don't have it elsewhere.

 

[trojan_man_co]

tonight is a wine night, in the mood for something sweet and fruty so im going to go with a castello del poggio moscato

 

[midwestyankee]

It makes me sad to think they don't have it elsewhere.

I think I've seen Shiner even here in the Chicago area but I like to drink local just as I prefer to eat local. So Shiner is for when I'm in Texas (maybe it's time to go terrorize the Mouse).

 

[Netzach]

New Glarus, MW. I'm tellin' ya. If you don't mind dumping some $ into the wisconsin economy.

Now I want a beer.

Coffee and exhaustion is my cocktail of choice.

 

[midwestyankee]

New Glarus, MW. I'm tellin' ya. If you don't mind dumping some $ into the wisconsin economy.

Now I want a beer.

Coffee and exhaustion is my cocktail of choice.

I've actually been to New Glarus, WI, though I think it was during the Hoover administration.

 

[midwestyankee]

Tabali Viognier, to be followed by Cono Sur Organic Cabernet Sauvignon/Carmenere. With home-made veggie pizza starring Shiitake mushrooms, all to be consumed whilst watching The Blues Brothers.

 

[CutieMouse]

It makes me sad to think they don't have it elsewhere.

Wait... do they really not sell Sheiner outside of Texas? Really?

I had no idea... those poor lost souls.

I think I've seen Shiner even here in the Chicago area but I like to drink local just as I prefer to eat local. So Shiner is for when I'm in Texas (maybe it's time to go terrorize the Mouse).

Yanks, you might appreciate the next book for my reading list (I need to request it from the library) - Travel as a Political Act.

 

[Raisa_Greywood]

I have no idea if this has been your experience, but what I've seen from people, it seems to be that they're too afraid that Pookie might get mad at them if they discipline him.

Admittedly, most of my experience comes from the horse world. I've done my time helping two different horse trainers. It's ridiculous what people will let horses get away with. These are 1000+ pound animals, folks! They can and will hurt you, even if it's just an accident.

It's disgusting, really. But from what I've seen of other pet owners (not just horse owners), it's more of the same. An untrained or badly-trained animal is not just a nuisance; it's a danger to the people around it.

And, God, how many horses have been shipped off to be slaughtered in Mexico under heinous conditions because they weren't manageable, so nobody wanted them? Ninety-nine times out of 100, it's not the horses' faults. People failed them by not training them because, God forbid, we hurt their feelings or get off our lazy asses and take the time to train them.

Er...I'll stop now before I get on my soapbox any higher than I already am.

You're preaching to the choir love. I do warmbloods, one obscenely large thoroughbred, and a rescue Clydesdale. Not a single one is under 17 hands, but all of them have impeccable ground manners. Wouldn't have it any other way. A normal horse is too big to be poorly mannered - much less the beasts I keep. When my farrier compliments me on my animals, I know I've done the job right.

Bella

 

[midwestyankee]

Wait... do they really not sell Sheiner outside of Texas? Really?

I had no idea... those poor lost souls.



Yanks, you might appreciate the next book for my reading list (I need to request it from the library) - Travel as a Political Act.

That's a great book suggestion, CM. As I mentioned above, I believe that I have seen Shiner outside of Texas. I just prefer to get mine when I'm in the Lone Star State. Will have to plan a trip to terrorize you and drink a few Shiners.

 

[Netzach]

What are people reading? I'm trying to not read Blood Meridian again so soon.

 

[intothewoods]

I'm kind of figuring out what to read next. I started a couple of things and should settle on one and go back to the other later. I just finished Game Change and it was kind of like a candy bar.

 

[LilyBart]

On the topic of local beers, Kiltlifter is an especially revered brew in the Phoenix area. It is made by Four Peaks Brewing in Tempe, AZ (in the Phoenix metro area).

A few weeks ago, I was at a happy hourish event with some colleagues, and the bar had all domestic beers at a special price. So, most of us order Kiltlifter. Only to find that it isn't considered domestic.

You can't get more domestic than down the street.