Anyone Ever Notice?

[Zeb_Carter]

Has anyone ever notice this line at the bottom of the Forum page?

Width: Full 900px - 100% Queries: 16 Time: 3.2560s Memory" 3.45B

If you click on the link you will see almost exactly what it takes for the server to produce the page you see.

Question for Manu: Should we the users be seeing this stuff?

 

[gunhilltrain]

I can't interpret anything on there. Maybe others can, and that would be important?

 

[TheWorldBuilder]

This would be best asked in the support forum.

It looks like a SQL dump, but I'm not totally up to speed these days. (I stopped working in a mainframe system operations department in 1994.)

 

[KeithD]

I'm more concerned that the new system hasn't settled down yet. I've had to move on to different browsers as the ones I was using before blank me out on "unauthorized" messages and often, like today, the system just goes frenetic when I'm trying to sign in/sign out and/or switching from the story file to the forum. The best I've been able to do is back out of Literotica altogether and come back in anew. I'm not holding my breath on always being able to get onto the Web site at all--ever again. I'm not having that trouble with anything else on the Internet. Is this just a dying site?

 

[SamScribble]

I find the new system very hit and miss. But, hey, I'm not paying for it - so I guess you get what you pay for.

 

[KeithD]

If your users can't reliably even open it, you're wasting whatever you're paying for it.

 

[lovecraft68]

I never log out so I don't have issues getting back in, but every third post has the "oops" message and I have to copy my message, refresh, then paste it back in. Same happens with PM's sometimes.

The fav story and fav poem lists have vanished and several posts and questions about it have been ignored. In fact I started a thread in the Poets forum letting them know the list was down and the thread was removed...mods can't do that, so the site removed it...while never responding to the issue...cute.

In the awards thread however, Manu came racing in to tell Chloe all about some new feature they want to implement, then go on about new features that could allow you to reply directly to comments...in other words, the sites as broken as ever, but let's add more things and don't forget the time and effort put into the oh, so important lit podcast no one asked for.

We recently upgraded our internet and everything is crazy fast....except lit, sometimes it takes a lot of spinning before my page shows up or I can get to a forum...so its definitely them.

The whole, you get what you pay for....well they get paid, and off us, so you'd think it would be a priority to fix the things messing with the authors....you'd think the key words

 

[Duleigh]

Has anyone ever notice this line at the bottom of the Forum page?

Width: Full 900px - 100% Queries: 16 Time: 3.2560s Memory" 3.45B

If you click on the link you will see almost exactly what it takes for the server to produce the page you see.

Question for Manu: Should we the users be seeing this stuff?

If you notice, to the right of that link is a little gear icon that's used for many pieces of software as an icon for settings. Your mouse pointer will indicate that it's a hyperlink and a little blue info block comes up and says
XF:Thread::actionindex.thread_view
but when you click on it nothing happens. I'm guessing that a developers log-in allows that hyperlink to work and it should do the same thing on that other link you noticed

 

[gunhilltrain]

I'm more concerned that the new system hasn't settled down yet. I've had to move on to different browsers as the ones I was using before blank me out on "unauthorized" messages and often, like today, the system just goes frenetic when I'm trying to sign in/sign out and/or switching from the story file to the forum. The best I've been able to do is back out of Literotica altogether and come back in anew. I'm not holding my breath on always being able to get onto the Web site at all--ever again. I'm not having that trouble with anything else on the Internet. Is this just a dying site?

Which browsers are you using? I've been using Chrome for quite a while and I haven't had any problems with this site. I have Firefox, but I don't use it much for anything now because it tends to be slow and a bit flaky. I also have Microsoft Edge, but I have hardly ever used it.

(The only sites I have consistent problems with are news/newspaper sites because, I think, they have a lot of ads and videos [usually more ads] plugged into them.)

So from my end, at least, Lit seems okay.

P.S.: I have noted before one annoying glitch with the forums in that there is a sort of time-limit in posting. If I'm describing this clearly, if you don't get it done quickly enough, it can't be posted. (Eight minutes or something like that is the time frame.) Then you have to go out of the thread and come back. There you find a stub/incomplete version of the message and you have to start up again. When it "freezes" up like that, I copy what I've written so I can post it all back again.

Maybe I should have made a list out of all that to make it clearer.

 

[SimonDoom]

It's troubling how long the Most-Favorited stories list has been down. It's over a week now. I'm not technical enough to understand it but it seems like something that would be fixable. It's curious that the Most-Followed author list is NOT down.

 

[gunhilltrain]

It's troubling how long the Most-Favorited stories list has been down. It's over a week now. I'm not technical enough to understand it but it seems like something that would be fixable. It's curious that the Most-Followed author list is NOT down.

That's accessed through the Favorites Portal? I'm lucky in that I rarely use it but, yeah, it's not there, or it's just some computer gibberish I'd say. Maybe Manu has a day job that takes a lot of his time. Other sites have various issues.

Navigating on this site can be a bit cumbersome, depending on where one is going. What's the best site ever for navigation? Maybe Amazon?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I only asked as I'm a long time software engineer and I can read what's displayed from that link. Sql is like a second language to me. Database Sql is simple yet can get very complex depending on how many table are joined.

What really got me was everything in the single click happened in 3.25 seconds.

 

[KeithD]

Which browsers are you using? I've been using Chrome for quite a while and I haven't had any problems with this site. I have Firefox, but I don't use it much for anything now because it tends to be slow and a bit flaky. I also have Microsoft Edge, but I have hardly ever used it.

(The only sites I have consistent problems with are news/newspaper sites because, I think, they have a lot of ads and videos [usually more ads] plugged into them.)

So from my end, at least, Lit seems okay.

P.S.: I have noted before one annoying glitch with the forums in that there is a sort of time-limit in posting. If I'm describing this clearly, if you don't get it done quickly enough, it can't be posted. (Eight minutes or something like that is the time frame.) Then you have to go out of the thread and come back. There you find a stub/incomplete version of the message and you have to start up again. When it "freezes" up like that, I copy what I've written so I can post it all back again.

Maybe I should have made a list out of all that to make it clearer.

Lit. put me on "unauthorized" access first on Microsoft Edge, then on Chrome, and then on Firefox. I won't mention what browser I'm using now to get it, or I might quickly lose that too. It remains "unauthorized" on all of the other three. Now, on this one, it's going blinky on me when I try to move from board to story file and I have to go completely out and come in again to get connection. I also sometimes get the "Oops" failure to complete a posting notice on the board, as LC mentions. I'm not technically inclined, so my inclination if the Web site can't be stable isn't going to be to stand on my head and go through a lot of hoops to try to fix it. This isn't happening to me anywhere else on the Internet.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Lit. put me on "unauthorized" access first on Microsoft Edge, then on Chrome, and then on Firefox. I won't mention what browser I'm using now to get it, or I might quickly lose that too. It remains "unauthorized" on all of the other three. Now, on this one, it's going blinky on me when I try to move from board to story file and I have to go completely out and come in again to get connection. I also sometimes get the "Oops" failure to complete a posting notice on the board, as LC mentions. I'm not technically inclined, so my inclination if the Web site can't be stable isn't going to be to stand on my head and go through a lot of hoops to try to fix it. This isn't happening to me anywhere else on the Internet.

That's truly bizarre. I know when another site went haywire after a big (total, actually) revamp, different users had different problems; it wasn't always consistent. I don't know how browsers and operating systems on the user end interface with the software on the site's end. I have an old computer and an outdated operating system (I have to look again at how to upgrade it) and yet I haven't had problems although one would expect them. Does anyway else here have more technical knowledge to explain these things?

The forum glitch started a number of months ago. If one gets the "oops" message, one can still copy the text one wrote. Then paste it into a word processor document (I use Word) so that you will have it. Close the thread and re-open it. There will probably be a stub or incomplete response at the bottom from when your time ran out. You can replace that with the full text copied from the Word document. (Probably it's easiest to remove the "stub" text by using the back space button unless it's really long.) I know we told Manu about it a couple of months ago.

 

[PennameWombat]

That's truly bizarre. I know when another site went haywire after a big (total, actually) revamp, different users had different problems; it wasn't always consistent. I don't know how browsers and operating systems on the user end interface with the software on the site's end. I have an old computer and an outdated operating system (I have to look again at how to upgrade it) and yet I haven't had problems although one would expect them. Does anyway else here have more technical knowledge to explain these things?

The forum glitch started a number of months ago. If one gets the "oops" message, one can still copy the text one wrote. Then paste it into a word processor document (I use Word) so that you will have it. Close the thread and re-open it. There will probably be a stub or incomplete response at the bottom from when your time ran out. You can replace that with the full text copied from the Word document. (Probably it's easiest to remove the "stub" text by using the back space button unless it's really long.) I know we told Manu about it a couple of months ago.

I've been victim of this "oops" glitch here on rare occasions. So it's nothing specific to any one user, unless we're all on "the list."

But, yes. Copy the submission and close the thread. Reopen and post in. IF you care enough.

I've not seen an issue moving from Forum to stories. I use Chrome and Safari, depending on platform.

From my software development experience, these intermittent glitches are horror shows to find. In the past I burned huge amounts of time chasing such. My favorite was when I hunted down an intermittent glitch in an operating system. It was a timing issue that required the operating system to be running on an multiprocessor machine and what I finally found was an interrupt needed to occur in a window of about 8 machine instructions. Others had spent a couple of weeks and given up, took me four dedicated days to chase down. Coworkers kept me well supplied in doughnuts and coffee. But in that case it was a contained environment, I had tools to create artificial users and if I could run the system at high utilization with LOTS of I/O, I could get it to happen reliably within a couple of hours. That took a couple of days to set that up... then it was isolating the issue.

The hard part on these is that first part. Once you can reliably recreate, you can isolate it, even if it takes time.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I've been victim of this "oops" glitch here on rare occasions. So it's nothing specific to any one user, unless we're all on "the list."

But, yes. Copy the submission and close the thread. Reopen and post in. IF you care enough.

I've not seen an issue moving from Forum to stories. I use Chrome and Safari, depending on platform.

From my software development experience, these intermittent glitches are horror shows to find. In the past I burned huge amounts of time chasing such. My favorite was when I hunted down an intermittent glitch in an operating system. It was a timing issue that required the operating system to be running on an multiprocessor machine and what I finally found was an interrupt needed to occur in a window of about 8 machine instructions. Others had spent a couple of weeks and given up, took me four dedicated days to chase down. Coworkers kept me well supplied in doughnuts and coffee. But in that case it was a contained environment, I had tools to create artificial users and if I could run the system at high utilization with LOTS of I/O, I could get it to happen reliably within a couple of hours. That took a couple of days to set that up... then it was isolating the issue.

The hard part on these is that first part. Once you can reliably recreate, you can isolate it, even if it takes time.

I have no knack for that kind of work. I learned a little HTML, then when I saw **********, PHP, etc. . . .

Now why did it turn the J-word into a row of asterisks?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I have no knack for that kind of work. I learned a little HTML, then when I saw **********, PHP, etc. . . .

Now why did it turn the J-word into a row of asterisks?

The J-word is unauthorized.

Keith try clearing you cache. As for the other browsers not working, sounds more like a virus or a trojan than the site singling out you and which browser you use.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Just notices the volume symbol in the bottom righthand corner of the page. You can click it and it will open another page with all the html of the current page your are on.

Once again, should we be able to see this stuff?

 

[gunhilltrain]

The J-word is unauthorized.

Keith try clearing you cache. As for the other browsers not working, sounds more like a virus or a trojan than the site singling out you and which browser you use.

Firefox works, just not as well as Chrome. I've hardly even tried Edge. I haven't found any viruses when I do a sweep, if that matters. By the way, what is a "cache?" I remember cleaning out a ton of temp files from some Windows folder, but I've got to find it first. Somebody else told me to delete the browsing history of each browser, but that seems like an entirely different operation as far as I can tell.

Why would that word, of all the millions of such words, be unauthorized? You mean that is Lit's doing? Why would they care?

 

[Bubo_bubo]

By the way, what is a "cache?"

Your browsing history. If in chrome it's under history in the top right menu (or Ctrl+H). Can't give you the exact names of selections cause my Chrome speaks French to me.

 

[KeithD]

The J-word is unauthorized.

Keith try clearing you cache. As for the other browsers not working, sounds more like a virus or a trojan than the site singling out you and which browser you use.

Thanks. I think that's worked. I'm always leery of trying to fiddle with anything like that. It usually ends badly.

 

[Beholders_Eye]

I use Google Chrome in Incognito mode on my desktop computer. Works well for me. Less hassle because with Incognito mode it does not save the browsing history or cookies on my computer. No need to clear cache.
Each time you close all Incognito windows, Chrome discards any site data and cookies associated with that browsing session.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Your browsing history. If in chrome it's under history in the top right menu (or Ctrl+H). Can't give you the exact names of selections cause my Chrome speaks French to me.

Thanks, but I don't think I want to remove the browsing history per se. I want to remove the Windows temp files, which I thought was a different matter. I know the last time I did that there were several hundred of them at least.

 

[Beholders_Eye]

Thanks, but I don't think I want to remove the browsing history per se. I want to remove the Windows temp files, which I thought was a different matter. I know the last time I did that there were several hundred of them at least.

I often use Disk Cleanup to remove a lot of the Windows temp files. Type Disk Cleanup in the search box near the start icon, then choose which kinds of files you want deleted. I am on Windows 10.

 

[ElectricBlue]

The forum glitch started a number of months ago. If one gets the "oops" message, one can still copy the text one wrote. Then paste it into a word processor document (I use Word) so that you will have it. Close the thread and re-open it. There will probably be a stub or incomplete response at the bottom from when your time ran out. You can replace that with the full text copied from the Word document. (Probably it's easiest to remove the "stub" text by using the back space button unless it's really long.) I know we told Manu about it a couple of months ago.

Save your post draft regularly - page and magnifying glass, top right in the tool bar. That cures the time-out problem.