ANTIFA

MAGATs claim they are anti-antifascists.

If they were educated they would be able to reduce the equation.
"Smart people don't like me", Some Pedophile (currently the 47th best President).
 
And Trump has a decentralized belief that fascism will work for him. I mean, ordering his own department of justice to cut him a personal check for $230 million pretty much says it all!
Does him being dictator mean he’s suing himself?
 
Is shutting down fascism, fascism?

Not really arguing anything....just curious. I'd say that those fighting in Italy and Germany against their fascist governments weren't being fascist.

That being said...I'll remind those who may not have seen - I reject all political violence without qualification.
We have a different problem in the UK (not sure if you have similar issues in the US) involving Antifa.
Feminist rallies / conferences are constantly attacked by pro-trans campaigners with known Antifa members, trying to silence the speakers.

It's potentially similar to the Riley Gaines swimmer issue that you had (not sure of full details, but read a fair bit about it) in so far as you've basically got Antifa backing people wanting to silence women who they don't agree with.
These women essentially don't want cocks and balls in their women only spaces and are met with sometimes violent opposition including criminal damage of the buildings that they're in.

So, in a nutshell, it appears that UK anti-fascists are supporting fascists.
 
We have a different problem in the UK (not sure if you have similar issues in the US) involving Antifa.
Feminist rallies / conferences are constantly attacked by pro-trans campaigners with known Antifa members, trying to silence the speakers.
Pro-trans and antifa are two separate things

It's potentially similar to the Riley Gaines swimmer issue that you had (not sure of full details, but read a fair bit about it) in so far as you've basically got Antifa backing people wanting to silence women who they don't agree with.
She was never silenced.

These women essentially don't want cocks and balls in their women only spaces and are met with sometimes violent opposition including criminal damage of the buildings that they're in.
I think the main issue is that people equate speech with violence. That's not an antifa thing...it's a stupidity thing.


So, in a nutshell, it appears that UK anti-fascists are supporting fascists.
I think conflation is the issue.
 
Pro-trans and antifa are two separate things
Indeed, but Antifa were there supporting the pro-trans at pro-feminism events.

She was never silenced.
Like I said, don't know the full details, just knew there had been some sort of issue. Leaving that to one side.

I think the main issue is that people equate speech with violence. That's not an antifa thing...it's a stupidity thing.
Violence is this case was physical both in terms of criminal damage and threats of personal violence including banners with DEATH TO TERFS on them.

I think conflation is the issue.
In what way? Antifa have turned up to help pro-Trans silence others. That's fascism in a nutshell.
 
Indeed, but Antifa were there supporting the pro-trans at pro-feminism events.
Did they wear a badge?

Like I said, don't know the full details, just knew there had been some sort of issue. Leaving that to one side.
Got it

Violence is this case was physical both in terms of criminal damage and threats of personal violence including banners with DEATH TO TERFS on them.


In what way? Antifa have turned up to help pro-Trans silence others. That's fascism in a nutshell.
I don't even know what you mean here. "Antifa showed up to help pro-trans"

Wtf are you talking about?
 
Did they wear a badge?

I don't even know what you mean here. "Antifa showed up to help pro-trans"

Wtf are you talking about?
Antifa UK seem to be very much in league with the anti-TERF brigade.
Known Antifa members (can't be bothered typing "known members of some autonomous section of an Antifa movement" each time) have been at these events.
Bizarrely we have also had a new feminist Antifa movement marching against the far right the other week.

Bottom line, the world's turning to shit and the MSM are turning normal people against each other in culture wars so we don't start a class war and kick the elites out of power.

Twenty years ago, if you disagreed with someone, you'd shrug and drink your next beers together. Now it's unfriend them and blank them. A strange evolution of humanity.
 
Antifa UK seem to be very much in league with the anti-TERF brigade.
Says who?

Known Antifa members (can't be bothered typing "known members of some autonomous section of an Antifa movement" each time) have been at these events.
"Known antifa members "

What?

Did they show you ID?

Bizarrely we have also had a new feminist Antifa movement marching against the far right the other week.

Bottom line, the world's turning to shit and the MSM are turning normal people against each other in culture wars so we don't start a class war and kick the elites out of power.

Twenty years ago, if you disagreed with someone, you'd shrug and drink your next beers together. Now it's unfriend them and blank them. A strange evolution of humanity.
You're just conflating shit. It's a typical thing from the right. Everyone is just part of the left because things....no logic....just random shit.
 
Says who?

"Known antifa members "

What?

Did they show you ID?
Did they show me ID? What the hell are you on about? Are you one of those "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" oddballs. Seems like it.

You're just conflating shit. It's a typical thing from the right. Everyone is just part of the left because things....no logic....just random shit.
Say's the person who has put me on the right. Well done on reading the room wrong. I think both sides in the UK are absolutely horrendous and are completely in it for themselves. I don't have enough experience of the USA, but a Clinton v Trump line suggests you've got the same going on - something about him using the tax breaks that she wouldn't change because her friends use them. You're all fighting for scraps that accidentally spill from the DC through.
 
Did they show me ID? What the hell are you on about? Are you one of those "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" oddballs. Seems like it.
I'm wondering how you came to your conclusions. I tend to not just take someone's word for claims they make.

Say's the person who has put me on the right. Well done on reading the room wrong. I think both sides in the UK are absolutely horrendous and are completely in it for themselves. I don't have enough experience of the USA, but a Clinton v Trump line suggests you've got the same going on - something about him using the tax breaks that she wouldn't change because her friends use them. You're all fighting for scraps that accidentally spill from the DC through.
No idea....you're literally conflating several groups involved in some things that happened without any actual details on what occurred and how you know it occurred.

I mention the right because conflation of feminists, pro-trans, lgbtq...etc is a typical MAGA tactic.
 
I'm wondering how you came to your conclusions. I tend to not just take someone's word for claims they make.


No idea....you're literally conflating several groups involved in some things that happened without any actual details on what occurred and how you know it occurred.

I mention the right because conflation of feminists, pro-trans, lgbtq...etc is a typical MAGA tactic.
OK, so you've got completely the wrong end of the stick on my political leaning because of US politics - no bother, we can let that one go and move on :).

In the UK we have feminists being attacked by pro-Trans, aided by Antifa.
Here's the sort of event I'm talking about - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxwv9njvlgo - while that one doesn't mention Antifa, other shave, but this was the most recent and easiest to find.


Slightly off topic, but there's also the LGB community wanting to distance themselves from the trans issues of the moment - some feel like Stonewall have been hijacked by them and the LGB part parked. Sources include my lesbian cousin in Wales and a gay barman from a local pub. No, I didn't interview them, it just came up in wider conversation about attending the Pride festival in Manchester earlier this year.
 
I understand that you're brainwashed into believing every talking point fed to you by the Heritage Foundation about what non Maga believes, but the reality is that there is no Antifa organization like there are right-wing militias or the NRA. Every political movement has a radical fringe element that advocates violent solutions. I think it's obvious that the right-wing fringe element is no longer the fringe. The left-wing fringe is a loosely organized individuals and small groups. If there was a true Antifa, you would have blown up their headquarters by now. Let us know when you find it.

I don’t practice violence unless I’m attacked, but I identify as Antifa because like young Americans who fought in WW2, I see Maga as dangerous to the entire world as German Nazis.
You have severe mental illness. Good luck with that.
In the meantime, your antifa friends are going to find out.
 
OK, so you've got completely the wrong end of the stick on my political leaning because of US politics - no bother, we can let that one go and move on :).
It has nothing to do with US politics. You are conflating different groups of people. Those are your politics

In the UK we have feminists being attacked by pro-Trans, aided by Antifa.
Here's the sort of event I'm talking about - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxwv9njvlgo - while that one doesn't mention Antifa, other shave, but this was the most recent and easiest to find.
"Trans activists"

But I thought they were "known antifa"

?

Slightly off topic, but there's also the LGB community wanting to distance themselves from the trans issues of the moment - some feel like Stonewall have been hijacked by them and the LGB part parked. Sources include my lesbian cousin in Wales and a gay barman from a local pub. No, I didn't interview them, it just came up in wider conversation about attending the Pride festival in Manchester earlier this year.
Not sure why you conflate everything.
 
Gook morning, Mexican! (when ICE raided that Hyndai plant in south Georgia, they had a warrant for the detention of four Mexicans. Finding the place was infested with Koreans, their supervisor made the call that as far as ICE was concerned, Koreans are just a different subset of Mexicans. You like burritos now, Choad-san?)

Maixmum racism for deflection is the immidiate response.... Rob, same as ever, standard Democrat.

I truly hope you have the day you deserve.

Enjoy DHS comming for you and your terrorist comrades. :ROFLMAO:
 
Hel_Books said:
And Trump has a decentralized belief that fascism will work for him. I mean, ordering his own department of justice to cut him a personal check for $230 million pretty much says it all!

Does him being dictator mean he’s suing himself?
Indeed! It's a bad sign. If Donald Trump wants to play at using America as an autocracy, he's playing by the rules of autocrats. But nations like China and Russia have centuries more experience at that game. Look at how TACO played out in the China tariff war, and how Trump's latest "peace" initiative in the Russia-Ukraine war is simply to surrender and give Putin whatever he wants.

Playing by the rules of free-market capitalism and democracy won for Reagan and Thatcher. Trump playing at crony capitalism and autocracy are leading to serious losses for the USA and the free world.
 
^^^
Delusional nut.
you are actually. there is no organization. its a belief. a movement of sorts.
either you are a fascist, or you are...anti-fascist...or antifa, for short.
so are you a fascist then?

for the record: Antifa is not a highly organized movement, nor is it merely an idea. Antifa is a loose affiliationof local activists scattered across the United States and a few other countries. The term "antifa" is short for anti-fascist; it's used both by its adherents and its foes. In general, people who identify as antifa are known not for what they support, but what they oppose: Fascism, nationalism, far-right ideologies, white supremacy, authoritarianism, racism, homophobia and xenophobia. Some antifa activists also denounce capitalism and the government overall.
 
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