And when our warriors return from battle...

p_p_man

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how will our governments treat them?

Not very well judging by their actions in the past...

It's all very well shouting "Hurrah!" for our men and women as they fight their way to Baghdad but how many of us will support them when their job is done and they have to fight their own governments on their own?

Adulation is a short term and fickle mistress...

ppman
 
I don't foresee the troops in the US getting a bad reception...at least not in the military communities to which they will be coming home to.

After all, US troops are bound to a Constitutional oath...and even a good majority of the anti-war people realize this.

As for coalition troops, I hope they are afforded all the respect they deserve, when they return home.
 
i hate the war, but i can't imagine anyone taking it out on the soldiers. it isn't their fault what they do. they didn't start the war, so how could anyone despise them for fighting in it?

i just hope we treat the iraqi's with the same respect we would want our troops to have. after all, the iraqi's are just doing their job as well.
 
Usually once the job is done governments...

find the fighting man an embarrassment to have around...

Especially if he is injured in any way...

Maggie Thatcher made sure the soldiers in wheelchairs at the Falklands Memorial Service were seated behind the large pillars of St Paul's Cathedral. She didn't want the TV cameras to pick them out...

Wrong for the victorious image she was trying to portray.

And our vets from Gulf War 1 are still trying to get compensation for Gulf War Syndrome...

ppman
 
Bob_Bytchin said:
I don't foresee the troops in the US getting a bad reception...at least not in the military communities to which they will be coming home to.

After all, US troops are bound to a Constitutional oath...and even a good majority of the anti-war people realize this.

As for coalition troops, I hope they are afforded all the respect they deserve, when they return home.

But didn't your Gulf War 1 vets have trouble getting compensation for the effects the cocktail of drugs had that were administered by the military?

Didn't they have to fight long. court battles?

ppman
 
First things first.......

First, kill the Iraqi regime, their supporters, secure the country.

Then they can come home wearing the uniform and get bags of piss thrown at them like I had done to me, then the government can have their turn.
It's a tradition...since 1865
 
p_p_man said:
But didn't your Gulf War 1 vets have trouble getting compensation for the effects the cocktail of drugs had that were administered by the military?

Didn't they have to fight long. court battles?

ppman

I know several people with "Gulf War Syndrome"-like effects. They receive medical help and many receive disability.

There is a lot of debate about this topic, and many experts on both sides have valid points. But just as war itself isn't pleasant, neither are the after-effects that many soldiers have to live with...psychologically or physically.
 
p_p_man said:
But didn't your Gulf War 1 vets have trouble getting compensation for the effects the cocktail of drugs had that were administered by the military?

Didn't they have to fight long. court battles?

ppman


The way the government treats veterans and the way the public treats veterans are two different things.

Since Viet Nam, the U.S. public has treated vets well. The government still has a way to go.
 
Problem Child said:
The way the government treats veterans and the way the public treats veterans are two different things.

Since Viet Nam, the U.S. public has treated vets well. The government still has a way to go.

But the two aren't necessarily distinct from each other either, PC. Now I don't find myself siding with p_p often, but what I think he's getting at is that governments have a history of denying support to vets, especially when there's a possibility that their particular form of casuality might be embarrassing to admit (such as Agent Orange, for instance).

And we as a people have a history of not feeling nearly as passionate about supporting our troops after the conflict as during. Most of us (myself included, I have to admit) rarely think about the damage our wars have done to our surviving vets. It's less painful to look to other way. We may not actively denigrate them, but we don't exactly rally in their support either.
 
Re: First things first.......

Lost Cause said:
Then they can come home wearing the uniform and get bags of piss thrown at them like I had done to me, then the government can have their turn.
It's a tradition...since 1865

I'm sorry, LC. That must have been so hard....
 
sigh said:
But the two aren't necessarily distinct from each other either, PC. Now I don't find myself siding with p_p often, but what I think he's getting at is that governments have a history of denying support to vets, especially when there's a possibility that their particular form of casuality might be embarrassing to admit (such as Agent Orange, for instance).

And we as a people have a history of not feeling nearly as passionate about supporting our troops after the conflict as during. Most of us (myself included, I have to admit) rarely think about the damage our wars have done to our surviving vets. It's less painful to look to other way. We may not actively denigrate them, but we don't exactly rally in their support either.

Exactly sigh...

You said it in your style, I said it in mine...

But the sentiment is precisely the same...

ppman
 
pointless said:


i just hope we treat the iraqi's with the same respect we would want our troops to have. after all, the iraqi's are just doing their job as well.
You fucking moron
 
pointless said:
i hate the war, but i can't imagine anyone taking it out on the soldiers. it isn't their fault what they do. they didn't start the war, so how could anyone despise them for fighting in it?

I don't recall there being a draft for this war. These soldiers join the army under their own free wills.

To say it's not their fault for fighting isn't fair.

They train to kill, it's their job.
 
The reception will be fine. It will be positive, especially if the war does not last too long.

The waning of Support for troops returning from Vietnam only occurred after the public saw their troops engaging in actions that should never occur in war. It, in my opinion, happened only after the war policy was rudderless, directionless, and without any justification.
 
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