An open letter to Todd...

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Dear Todd,

No, this is not a Dear John style letter because, frankly, I'm not having that kind of relationship with you. This letter is about how I perceive you as a person and as a poster on the Bulletin Board. I think you are under a few misconceptions about your reception here and what appropriate behavior may or may not actually be.

You are a nice person and you have some interesting views of the world. You also have a way of coming up with topics that are good for debating and make people think about their own views, if only so they can explain them to you. You are not evil. You are not a bad person. You are not the bane of the board's existence. That would be Kid Rock. No one actually hates you.

However, despite the fact that we all feel pretty much ambivalent for you, and I'm taking a leap in speaking for the group as it were, you do irritate, aggravate, and generally bother the heck out of a bunch of people. Most people actively ignore you. Others seem to have that morbid curiosity about what you'll say next that's akin to Howard Stern or passing a bad traffic accident.

The biggest problem is one that is very easy for you to remedy and it revolves around thread starting. No, don't stop starting threads, there is no need to move from one extreme to another. There is a happy medium here. Rather than start a bunch of new threads every day, start one or two. For a few days you were beginning to resemble an almost Ambroeqsue board flood. That is bad.

The next biggest problem is the slant of your threads. While it is okay to slant threads to your political leanings, it is not okay to constantly start threads that actively insult those whose political leanings are different than yours. Which is pretty much everyone on the board. We have not gone to hell in a handbasket and it is not all the democrats fault either. Some of the political views you have been espousing, particularly the things about taxes, are extremist views that are not going to good a good reception outside of certain parts of heavily armed Idaho. You should understand that people are going to react to your threads in ways you cannot predict and won't like and accept it. Acceptance of that will go a long way in making you feel better.

Another huge problem with your threads is that they lack legitimate sources. You put forth an ideology and back it up with extremist propaganda. It would be akin to debating the feasibility of theology with only the Bible as your source. If you are going to put out an ideology and back it up with opinions of people other than yourself, look for unimpeachable sources, not just the ones you have been using. That means look for facts and opinions from people and news agencies that are outside of your general reading milieu. CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, The New York Times, US News, The Guardian, The BBC are good sources of information that have good reputations and are respected not given dubiousness. Certain erstwhile Libertarian board members put forth a view as well and the only source listed is from Libertarian.com or something similar. You don't put credence in their sources anymore than I put credence in most of your sources.

It's very frustrating to debate with you because you are not open to debate. You state your opinions as fact and refuse to see that the other may have a legitimate point. It's very frustrating and probably the reason why you're getting flack from the very people who keep opening your threads, responding, and end up cyberly pulling their hair out for arguing with you. You don't debate well because you're too argumentative and I think that you take things a little too personally when they aren't meant to be.

I don't think anyone on this board hates you or even dislikes you. I do think they are tired of arguing with you because it's rather like beating one's head on a brick wall for no good reason.

You aren't going to change, that's fine just be yourself, but not everyone is going to like that and you should understand that and not overreact to it.

Your friend.

KM
 
Dammit that was me who wrote that. It had my named and password on it and everything too.
 
Unregistered said:
I do think they are tired of arguing with you because it's rather like beating one's head on a brick wall for no good reason.
Count me in the actively ignore group for anything that remotely looks like a religious rant from Todd or something meant to antagonize. He did get me to open a few of the tax threads just because the topic appealed to me. But I quickly left them when I realized the logic wan't there, either. Just the antagonistic pronouncements of Todd, who had no clue what he was talking about. I skipped the brick wall head bashing.

Bring back Bobtoad777.
 
I never opened a tax thread, taxes involve numbers and numbers make me think of Patagonia, or Ethel Mermann, or anything but numbers.

I am neutral towards Todd. No one here bothers me at all. It is curious that people are so anti-Todd, though. I mean no one makes anyone read the threads, so why are people so antagonized by him. Maybe if I read him more often, I would be irritated too.

But I doubt it.
 
Many of Todd's posts, pasted as they are, are a great lead in for Uncle Bill. Who, because of board politics, very few, if any, of the liberals will attack.
 
The problem with Todd is....

:p
 
I don't mean to add a Twinkie thing here...but, ignore his political ramblings. He's good in bed. ;)
 
Todd/ Bobtoad... is an alright kinda guy.

I've known him since I first started coming to the BB... he is part of the mortar that makes up this place. Sometimes I wonder how he can be so strong. There have been members that have buckled, and left, from much lower tempered flames than what Todd has received.

Todd is Todd... believe it or not.. he can be rather creative and imaginative. And, even though I know you mean well KM, I don't think this thread of yours will change his posting habits in the least.

Like Siren said, He posts for attention. So we will know he is still around. So the personna of "Todd" will live on here at the BB

KM, as much as I respect you and value your opinion, I really don't you (or anyone else for that matter) can speak for "the group". We each are individuals, and as such, we each can only speak for ourselves here at the board.

So, no matter what you think of Todd's threads, if you really got to know him as a person you'd know, he can be very loyal and dependable, and can be a really great friend.
 
So Todd has been voted off the island. Who the fuck is next?
 
voted off the island???? Who was the other option and why didn't I get to vote?
 
I don't hate Todd but I too have found myself smacking my head off the wall many times.........................................
 
WriterDom said:
So Todd has been voted off the island. Who the fuck is next?

yeah, watch who you piss off when you vote off. cause, in the end they are our judges.

(survivor withdrawal)
 
i thought i'd be the first one kicked off...before the time when you can come back and judge.....I'd just get the can of beans and the home version as consolation prizes
 
Savage Kitten said:


yeah, watch who you piss off when you vote off. cause, in the end they are our judges.

(survivor withdrawal)

Big Brother 2 is on now. I didn't watch Survivor but got stupid and watched TV one Saturday night and now I'm hooked.
 
Poor Toddy :( Be glad that km didn't go after you like she did Mistress when she was a member of my board for a few weeks.
Look it up.
 
I've nothing against Todd...

...but KillerMuffin's post irritates me.

So now we are to write open letters to other contributors to the Board explaining, in the nicest possible way of course, that though they are nice people an' all, they are not quite posting within the accepted parameters.

Bollocks. Let them post. Don't get your knickers in a twist. Don't like it don't read it.

So this is part and parcel of the "Freedom Loving America" I hear Bush ranting on about?
 
Hey Killer, at least you tried.
And you did much better than I would have.
 
C'mon

We have nine Supreme Court Justices, fifty state governors, and 532 or so congressmen. Please, if just for variety, trash someone else, please!!!!!
Or we could look b ack into history. Attack Chester A. Arthur oncivil service, Ulysses S. Grant on Santo Domingo, Franklin Pierce on Cuba, Thomas Jefferson on the Burr trial and Bollman And Swartwout. I know you would have hated Teddy Roosevelt.

Just for the love of everything good in this world, please stop bashing Bush, we know you hate him!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thank you!:D
 
I just don't even read the threads. Sometimes they're interesting, but mostly I skim past stuff I don't want to read. No harm done.
 
But Mr. Rambling -

The problem is that Jefferson and TR haven't fucked up my world lately. Bush did numerous things that envenomed me today. I'm praying I'll never need to sue my HMO, that they'll stop him from trashing the Alaska reserve, that we won't give $10 billion to the coal companies, that Detroit will have to make SUVs with better mileage, that Bush will vhange his mind about starting an arms race with the Chinese, etc. And I haven't even watched my tape of the nightly news yet.

I bash Bush because every day, in every way, he annoys me. I understand that I sound like the Clinton haters, with their demented paranoid ravings, but I assert that I would be very happy if Bush did something I liked. If he approves stem cell research, I will be grateful (and very surprised) and I will not dig through the trash to attack him for it on some subtly scurrilous grounds. But he won't. And his decision will rest on political calculus (at which he's not so adept), not on morality or ethics.

Fire away!
 
I thought that Todd always seemed genuinely baffled as to why people react so negatively toward him and I think it's kind of hurt his feelings. I don't think anyone has ever taken the time to explain it to him in a way that's respectful to Todd, which I tried, and not antogonistic, which I also tried.

Todd is good people and he doesn't deserve to be hurt or bashed or just flat out ignored for reasons he may not understand. *sigh* I've been guilty of that myself and I'm not proud of it. I'm sorry for being an ass to you, Todd.

And yes, I'm stepping out on a limb speaking for the board as it were, but some opinions are a bit on the collective side and I thought that particular opinion was a safe one to espouse. But if anyone actually hates and dislikes Todd, feel free to prove me wrong.
 
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