America will never be trusted by the Arabs...

p_p_man said:
until you dump Israel...

ppman

Israel, the place a French diplomat referred to as "that shitty little country."
You're in good company, ppman.
 
And here we thought the Arabs were all just reacting to Israel "aggression" and really want peace . . .

TB4p
 
Re: Re: America will never be trusted by the Arabs...

Ham Murabi said:
Israel, the place a French diplomat referred to as "that shitty little country."

Most Europeans probably think the same way...

Y'all forget over here we're mostly pro-Arab...

ppman
 
Re: Re: Re: America will never be trusted by the Arabs...

p_p_man said:
Most Europeans probably think the same way...

Y'all forget over here we're mostly pro-Arab...

ppman

An American friend of mine visited the Middle East and saw large signs saying "American goods" in all the stores. He thought, "These Arabs are so patriotic in times when the Americans are threatening to blow up the whole Middle East and these storekeepers are promoting American products."

Uhm . . . actually the shopkeepers were identifying their American goods so that their customers could buy products from other "friendly" countries . . . :)
 
What America doesn't seem to realise is that...

the Arabs tolerate her. Nothing more, nothing less. As she's a difficult country to ignore they go down the route of putting up with a bad job...

The Europeans have an extremely long history of dealing with the world of Islam, both in conflict and in peace and between the two cultures there has grown an understanding that the US is lacking. Israel really is a major problem for America, and if she wants to gain any real influence in the Arab world she has no choice but to withdraw her wholesale support for that country.

ppman
 
We don't trust the Arabs whose sole purpose in life before the oil age was robbing pilgrims on the way to Mecca...
 
Re: Re: Re: America will never be trusted by the Arabs...

p_p_man said:
Most Europeans probably think the same way...


ppman
It would appear that the Euro-Trash attitude towards the Jewish people, is quite similar to the attitude of the Euro-Trash of the 30s..........To quote yayati.....u r haterzs......
 
Re: What America doesn't seem to realise is that...

p_p_man said:
the Arabs tolerate her. Nothing more, nothing less. As she's a difficult country to ignore they go down the route of putting up with a bad job...

The Europeans have an extremely long history of dealing with the world of Islam, both in conflict and in peace and between the two cultures there has grown an understanding that the US is lacking. Israel really is a major problem for America, and if she wants to gain any real influence in the Arab world she has no choice but to withdraw her wholesale support for that country.

ppman
Very true. The european history of colonization and nation creation in the middle east make their role there arrogantly superior to the United States. That is true until you realize that the United States is the only state in the world with the influence, money, and power to have dynamic influence in the middle east. Perhaps if the leadership of the Palestians actually told their people about the deal they walked away from with the Israeli's they might not so easily continue in their victim role. Under Clinton the Israeli's would have given the palestinians 90 percent of the west bank. The deal did not include Jeruselem but even their they would have been granted autonomy. Arafat turned down the deal. Why? I think the palestian leadership needs the conflict to survive. They have to live up to their own propaganda which is far more militant and rediculous than the sain face they persent to the west.
 
Yeah, Lord Balfour's declaration really worked out in the long haul...
 
Re: What America doesn't seem to realise is that...

p_p_man said:
the Arabs tolerate her. Nothing more, nothing less. As she's a difficult country to ignore they go down the route of putting up with a bad job...

The Europeans have an extremely long history of dealing with the world of Islam, both in conflict and in peace and between the two cultures there has grown an understanding that the US is lacking. Israel really is a major problem for America, and if she wants to gain any real influence in the Arab world she has no choice but to withdraw her wholesale support for that country.

ppman

heheheh . . . and THAT is why the EU is VERY hesitant about having Turkey in the EU . . . the U$ will push as part payment for the U$-Iraq Imperialist Oil Wars, but Europe will resist on historical grounds . . . the U$ have not yet been invaded by the Persian hordes . . . :)

Geez, SIN . . . I didn't realise that pre-1920s there were so many American Muslims making their pilgrimage to Mecca . . . you learn something new every day . . . I wonder, was Jesse James or Billy the Kid a Muslim . . . would possibly account for their anti-social un-American activities . . . (being outlaws is NOT un-American?? . . . it is part of the fine Texan tradition which established theft of resources as a U$ foreign policy tool?? . . . oh dear, how could I have been soooo misguided . . . :) )
 
And perhaps America will never trust the Arabs. It's a two-way street you know.
 
Ninety-seven bottles of beer on the wall,
Ninety-seven bottles of beer.

Take one down, pass it around
Ninety-six bottles of beer on the wall.
 
America has needed Israel for a beachhead in the Middle East. Plus a lot of Corporate America is own by Jews. :D
 
nimbus9 said:
Plus a lot of Corporate America is own by Jews. :D

Prove it please. I believe that is one of those enduring myths about the Jews.
 
OK you all think that I'm doin my normal stance...

Israel came into existence in an Arab country with the help of America...

Israel which I think is the biggest piriah against America in the world...

Dump Israel and suddenly Yanks you'll get more suppoet against Iraq...

Funny how real life works innit...

ppman
 
Re: OK you all think that I'm doin my normal stance...

p_p_man said:
Israel came into existence in an Arab country with the help of America...

Israel which I think is the biggest piriah against America in the world...

Dump Israel and suddenly Yanks you'll get more suppoet against Iraq...

Funny how real life works innit...

ppman


Funny how you cannot spell when you are inebriated.
 
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bluespoke said:
Funny how you cannot spell when you are inebriated.

I couldn't be bothered to change the mistake BUT I thought the only people who would see my misspelling is an exiled Scot living in France or Brits who actaually read what I write...

:D

ppman
 
Re: OK you all think that I'm doin my normal stance...

p_p_man said:
Israel came into existence in an Arab country with the help of America...

Israel which I think is the biggest piriah against America in the world...

Dump Israel and suddenly Yanks you'll get more suppoet against Iraq...

Funny how real life works innit...

ppman

WHO CARES??? Israel came into existance as a humanitarian gesture on the part of England and with the help of the US. SO?

Who cares if the Arabs trust America or not? Americans are the infidels with or without Israel, dumping Israel would not help.

As soon as hybrid cars start selling well enough and the US reliance on fossil fuels is a thing of the past, no one will give a shit about any arab country. They can all go back to killing each other just like old times.
 
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roxanne69 said:
WHO CARES??? Israel came into existance as a humanitarian gesture on the part of England and with the help of the US. SO?

Who cares if the Arabs trust America or not? Americans are the infidels with or without Israel, dumping Israel would not help.

As soon as hybrid cars start selling well enough and the US reliance on fossil fuels is a thing of the past, no one will give a shit about any arab country. They can all go back to killing each other just like old times.

Roxanne,
you ready to give someone the gasoline treatment sugar?

die for oil boyz
im hangin with Roxanne

et al...:rose:
 
Well, the truth is we're all ignorant because we honestly don't know what the politicians are thinking, or what their motives are. All you can really say is they sure as fuck don't want us sheep knowing about their plans, arab or american, because they'd get murdered and replaced by other dirty politicians, and we might as well keep the same dirty ones for peace's sake. Honestly, unless you're a politician or you back one financially, you don't really matter or know what the fuck in any political matters. :D
 
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