All those brown people are trying to steal our terrorist jobs

[badbabysitter]

But dont fear, whitey still dominates the field..by a long shot

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=1




Despite public anxiety about extremists inspired by Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, the number of violent plots by such individuals has remained very low. Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.
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In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.

Other data sets, using different definitions of political violence, tell comparable stories. The Global Terrorism Database maintained by the Start Center at the University of Maryland includes 65 attacks in the United States associated with right-wing ideologies and 24 by Muslim extremists since 9/11. The International Security Program at the New America Foundation identifies 39 fatalities from “non-jihadist” homegrown extremists and 26 fatalities from “jihadist” extremists.

 

[Setanta84]

It's actually much more skewed than that.

1) Most of the plots the USG "disrupted" over the last 13 years were cases where an undercover CIA or FBI agent rounded up the dumbest fucks he could find, financed them, trained them, AND THEN PROVIDED THE NECESSARY RESOURCES FOR THE FUCKING PLOT and THEN proceeded to arrest them.

In a sane world, those would have been tossed out as clear cases of entrapment.

2) We're probably wildly underestimating the activity of domestic terrorists because all Fox news has had to do over the last seven years is complain about someone pointing out that these people are Fox News enthusiasts and the fucking Coward-in-Chief will fire these people.

Firing the researchers naive enough to honestly represent their findings kind of skews things.

 

[badbabysitter]

and the victims... did they all have heart attacks and were not killed by the right wing domestic terrorists?

 

[badbabysitter]

but Set is right... why should we believe the experts in the fields, the FBI or the police when they research about things that happen to them

as we all very well know, the police is infamous for their liberal agenda

 

[Setanta84]

but Set is right... why should we believe the experts in the fields, the FBI or the police when they research about things that happen to them

as we all very well know, the police is infamous for their liberal agenda

You do realize I was pointing out you weren't making a strong enough claim rather than disagreeing with you, right? These posts are reading like you don't get that.

 

[badbabysitter]

You do realize I was pointing out you weren't making a strong enough claim rather than disagreeing with you, right? These posts are reading like you don't get that.

says the guy that made two assumptions

one about something that's already included in the study that you think is a cover up conspiracy..based on your feelings

and one about some liberal media myth

 

[Setanta84]

says the guy that made two assumptions

one about something that's already included in the study that you think is a cover up conspiracy..based on your feelings

and one about some liberal media myth

OK, so you're reading a post holding that that the number of cases of Islam-based terror are overblown and calling out Obama's inability to remain firm under even the slightest amount of pressure from the right and it means I'm either--your wording here is weirdly vague, so i'm embracing both possible interpretations--peddling a "liberal media myth" or believe the myth that there is a liberal media.

So, you're an idiot. Got it.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

It's fascinating that the hard Right is talking secession so much lately, too. The more I watch my former comrades on the far right, Tea Party clique, the less I trust them.

 

[badbabysitter]

OK, so you're reading a post holding that that the number of cases of Islam-based terror are overblown

and literally the only source for this claim.....is you

see I actually posted something that supported my OP.. you showed NOTHING

and calling out Obama's inability to remain firm under even the slightest amount of pressure from the right

which has what to do with the OP..oh right...NOTHING

and it means I'm either--your wording here is weirdly vague,

my wording is clear.. I stated something, supported it.. you made and continue to make unsupported claims... I can see how that would be vague to you

so i'm embracing both possible interpretations--peddling a "liberal media myth" or believe the myth that there is a liberal media.

you're the one who brought up FOX like it was even remotely related to what I posted in the first place... and an additional unsupported claim

I'm an idiot. Got it.

 

[Setanta84]

and literally the only source for this claim.....is you


you're the one who brought up FOX like it was even remotely related to what I posted in the first place... and an additional unsupported claim

You're in a political thread, I usually do the people I respond to the courtesy of NOT assuming they're complete fucking morons who won't get references to major national events, like Obama burying the report on the rise of white nationalist domestic terrorism and firing those associated because Fox News was aggrieved.

If you're legitimately coming to a sex board to discuss politics and society and something like that needs a link to jog your memory/proved it happened at all, then you are either a troll just trolling or one of the more inattentive people walking the earth.

Also, let's walk through the "context" part of basic reading comprehension.

You make a point about white nationalist terrorist groups not getting the attention they deserve. I agree with you but say you're underselling and then bring up the Fox News thing. Why would I do that?

It points directly to evidence that the political establishment, including the black president, is actively suppressing the true nature and scope of the problem, which, in turn, points to my suggestion that we are probably UNDERESTIMATING the problem.

It's not arcane, weird to follow logic here.

On the terrorism thing, again, if you have missed news story after news story of the USG and local law enforcement being caught red-handed basically framing really stupid people for starting terrorist plots to gin up anti-Muslim hysteria, you really haven't been paying attention to even the fucking mainstream news media over the last 13 years.

 

[dan_c00000]

It's fascinating that the hard Right is talking secession so much lately, too. The more I watch my former comrades on the far right, Tea Party clique, the less I trust them.

I wouldn't even call the Tea Party a clique in the GOP anymore. It's the whole party. As they say in the tech world this is a feature not a bug.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I wouldn't even call the Tea Party a clique in the GOP anymore. It's the whole party. As they say in the tech world this is a feature not a bug.

I can see why you'd believe that, but speaking as a disgruntled, lifelong Republican, I'm a centrist, I don't like how Romney left us to pander to the far Right, and I don't approve of the neo-Confederate, Dixiecrat tendencies of the evangelical right and the Tea Party, which seem to have largely merged or overlapped.