AI a new era

[bettiezyx]

KindredFlame introduced an idea that seems like great anthology material (https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1546138). Would anyone be interested in participating in an anthology on this topic?

For a title, was thinking of "AI a new era". Kindred led off with "AI a new age of mankind", which is fine. For the theme description for contributing authors, I was thinking of something like:

Artificial Intelligence is more complicated than anything the human race has ever created. How does the creation manipulate the creator (in bed)? This anthology brings together stories of AI and it's sexual effects on the intelligent apes confused enough to think they control it.

>>>AI is great friend of people. Make people feel really good.<<<

What do you think?
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[Blind_Justice]

I've done something along those lines in "Ghost in the Machine". It's a bit long for an anthology though.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm getting visuals of an Alita Battle Angel type set up.

 

[JanusGoneAwry]

I'm getting visuals of an Alita Battle Angel type set up.

Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking or else an AI-enhanced Fleshlight

 

[AlinaX]

An AI anthology sounds interesting.

 

[TxRad]

Ah yes, Artificial Intelligence. You are born knowing nothing. By 18, you know everything and then you spend the rest of your life figuring out just how smart your parents were and how dumb you were.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[PennameWombat]

KindredFlame introduced an idea that seems like great anthology material (https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1546138). Would anyone be interested in participating in an anthology on this topic?

I’ve had AI in a few stories that are all set in a shared universe.

In Sex, Toys and Bots: A Valentine Tale the ‘bots’ were AI-powered sex robots. Although, the linked post says 2040 and my bots were first generation, essentially Real Dolls that could walks and talk and were (sort of) independent. A woman whose company develops the AIs was a character and a few other aspects.

In Adrift in Space the AI was in the background essentially running the satellite. It was barely mentioned beyond everyone on the satellite knowing they were incredibly dependent on the AI just working. And it did. But a mutiny took place and one thing the mutineers needed to do was sideline the AI. Things did not work out well.

Long way of saying I’d be interested.

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>>>AI is great friend of people. Make people feel really good.<<<

What do you think?
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Although… this. If it’s required the stories be purely sunshine and puppies then I’m less excited having to hew to that.

 

[bettiezyx]

Ah, yes, good, bad, & ugly AI stories certainly welcome! If that last joke on the announcement is confusing, can delete it. Sci-fi & horror are frequently paired for a reason. Alright, so moving forward with organizing the anthology.
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[bettiezyx]

Laurel has posted the event!

The event has been announced here:
https://www.literotica.com/s/coming-soon-ai-a-new-era
and tweeted here:
https://twitter.com/literotica/statu...83293983444992
and has been added to the News section on the front page:
https://www.literotica.com/

 

[ishtat]

As a kid who grew up on a farm, AI meant the visit of the AI man/woman who visited to artificially inseminate the cows.

There is probably a plot bunny in the confusion consequent on on an AI scientist getting to know a farm boy/girl.

 

[Hypoxia]

As a kid who grew up on a farm, AI meant the visit of the AI man/woman who visited to artificially inseminate the cows.

There is probably a plot bunny in the confusion consequent on on an AI scientist getting to know a farm boy/girl.

The Artificial Intelligencia devise radical new methods of Artificial Insemination. Hilarity ensues, of course.

 

[SimonDoom]

Resources for this event

I'm not especially savvy on the subject of AI. Does anyone know of good links to resources on the subject, particularly:

1. The latest criteria for a Turing test -- how a computer would convince a person that it's a person. What are the key elements of this?
2. The evolution of intelligence from computer AI to something like human intelligence -- how it would happen or evolve, and what would stimulate it to occur, including consciousness.
3. How human consciousness might be downloaded and made portable.

 

[PennameWombat]

As a kid who grew up on a farm, AI meant the visit of the AI man/woman who visited to artificially inseminate the cows.

There is probably a plot bunny in the confusion consequent on on an AI scientist getting to know a farm boy/girl.

Did you ever get to help choose the bull? This is from the 1970s, but my uncles had a printed catalog with pictures and details of all of the available bulls.

That’s how we ended up with one of the first Hereford-Charolais crosses in Utah, there was a Charolais bull that had just appeared in the catalog and I convinced my uncles to go with it. We got a heifer from that and as I was responsible for naming I gave her the incredibly creative name of ‘Charolais.’ She produced a number of fine beef steers for us.

So, an AI-powered cattle sexbot for doing the deed

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'm not especially savvy on the subject of AI. Does anyone know of good links to resources on the subject, particularly:

1. The latest criteria for a Turing test -- how a computer would convince a person that it's a person. What are the key elements of this?
2. The evolution of intelligence from computer AI to something like human intelligence -- how it would happen or evolve, and what would stimulate it to occur, including consciousness.
3. How human consciousness might be downloaded and made portable.

You'll find some discussion on the Turing test in Wiki, including several suggested variants, but I don't think there's an agreed standard for how to administer one. The notion of the Turing test is more of a thought experiment than a practical objective, and most modern-day AI research is not focussed on trying to pass a Turing test, so there's not a lot of incentive to formalise exactly what passing that test would look like.

(To paraphrase Dijkstra: "asking whether machines can think is like asking whether submarines can swim".)

 

[PennameWombat]

I'm not especially savvy on the subject of AI. Does anyone know of good links to resources on the subject, particularly:

1. The latest criteria for a Turing test -- how a computer would convince a person that it's a person. What are the key elements of this?
2. The evolution of intelligence from computer AI to something like human intelligence -- how it would happen or evolve, and what would stimulate it to occur, including consciousness.
3. How human consciousness might be downloaded and made portable.

1. Here’s a good article around Turing tests: Modernizing the Turing Test for the 21st Century.

We don’t know yet what makes human intelligence and cognition work or how to effectively and reliably test people for intelligence. So, we are not going to test conversational AI for intelligence. Our goal is to test conversational AI for effectiveness – how effectively can a conversational AI convince people to do something or to change their minds about a topic?

Key items are Bias (appearance/mechanics of speaker, the uncanny valley), Context (I ask about work, you answer about dog racing), Cognitive Load (e.g., an AI will likely win if it’s a recitation of facts that can be looked up) and Rigor (can we measure it reliably?) The article goes into detail on a proposed format based on work by IBM and others (more links in the article.)

2. Oh… dear. If I could answer this they’d need to hand me the PhD I never bothered earning But. The above article focuses on NLP - Natural Language Processing - which is beyond spelling/grammar checking but actually being able to ‘understand’ the meaning/semantics. (The other ongoing thread around Grammarly and ‘question or not’ is an example of this.) As your question that isn’t a question implies, you know there is no ‘artificial general intelligence’ as yet. This would be a computer that can make leaps and jumps in thought by building on existing information.

The big secret (well, it’s secret in that no one involved wants to freely admit it) is that modern AI systems are really jumped-up pattern matching engines. I’m not going into the various sort of neural nets (many types, different ones for NLP, for visual, for auditory and other processing), width (number of nodes) and depth (layers), just take it that the more layers the finer details and more variables that can be measured. I worked in a group that looked at early ones around 1990. The issue then was processing power, we only had a few layers and it was just too damnably slow to do anything useful.

Today, CPUs are cheap and GPUs are plentiful and the algorithms have evolved. But, it’s largely all the same.
- Provide huge amounts of annotated training data to ‘teach’ the neural net what it’s looking for. NLP, Facial Recognition, etc.
- Then, turn it loose. This is why things like facial recognition are so poor on, e.g., black faces, because they’ve not been trained on them, or not sufficiently.

Sorry, but I needed that preamble to get to your point. An ‘Artificial Neural Net’ is designed more specifically to model neuronal structures like the brain. Well, that’s the theory. Adding layers (increased depth) allows more intricate processing. But can this get us artificial genera intelligence? So far, no. And although wider and deeper nets are accomplishing things, it’s unclear this gets us there.

So how to get your #2? Some time ago IBM put out ‘TrueNorth,’ which is non-vonNeumann architecture for processing.
IBM’s Brain Chip. If you squint hard enough, this massively parallel architecture looks sort of brain like. It also, if you squint a bit more, looks possibly like Asimov’s positronic brains (which he of course never described how they’d be built.) You could also wonder about quantum computers being used in true AI. But as this article highlights, it takes 96 racks of the Sequoia supercomputer at Lawrence Livermore (I worked on a predecessor generation), using up 12 GW (gigawatts) of electricity to simulate brain synapse activity and it was way too slow to ever be real-time.

Thus, the ‘how’ to get there will likely require significantly different computing architectures. We don’t yet know what these are nor the algorithms that will specifically give us this.

Finally, 3. IF we manage your number 2, then possibly we could use the ability to simulate synapses to build a model of a running brain. As of right now, no one has any idea how to do what you ask. Existing work on various brain implants are limited, focused on use in controlling artificial limbs or user interfaces for paralyzed users. These are just about in reach. But to download we need 1) a model of what we’re recording, 2) a way to record it, and 3) a way to store and replay it.

We know many of the mechanics of synapse operation, how they fire, etc., but not so much how the brain truly builds consciousness. The above TrueNorth is an attempt to model the mechanics, but the software is still the mystery.

Wikipedia articles around anything above are generally useful enough for what you want here, technically okay but mostly not overly laden with impenetrable jargon.

In my story here, Adrift in Space, during the mutiny my main character realized the computers that ran the satellite had achieved a level of consciousness. This was due to the stresses of the mutineers screwing up the safeguards on the fusion reactors and computer viruses they’d unleashed attacking the ops computers. Unfortunately, the satellite crashed, which meant any detailed answers were lost. It was sketchy, but I used a combination of unconventional architectures and quantum coprocessing. The uncanny valley is also a running theme, not for computing. The leader of the aliens is modifying alien foetuses in vitro to make them appear human, but, well, it’s inexact. My main character, a human male, discusses this with her as the story goes on and he meets more of the ‘changelings.’

Edit: I mentioned my sex bots on this thread. They’re in my Valentine’s story (link in sig). But the story got a bit more into the processing, and given it’s in the same universe as the above story, the crashed satellite provided a jump start to computing. Anyway, I didn’t exactly lay out HW or algorithms, but Riku did talk about it a bit.

My planned story here is to bring the sex bots front and center. And while I didn’t talk about three laws or such, how the Sex bots treated their partners was shown a bit. At least, when things are working correctly

 

[bettiezyx]

I just learned several new things. Thank you for this write-up!

For my story, I'm thinking of having an AI searching algorithm priority sequence lock someone into an amusing fetish.

 

[PennameWombat]

<snip>Finally, 3. IF we manage your number 2, then possibly we could use the ability to simulate synapses to build a model of a running brain. As of right now, no one has any idea how to do what you ask. Existing work on various brain implants are limited, focused on use in controlling artificial limbs or user interfaces for paralyzed users. These are just about in reach. But to download we need 1) a model of what we’re recording, 2) a way to record it, and 3) a way to store and replay it. <snip>:

To wit: Brain implants allow man to speak

Now, in a scientific milestone, researchers have tapped into the speech areas of his brain — allowing him to produce comprehensible words and sentences simply by trying to say them. When the man, known by his nickname, Pancho, tries to speak, electrodes implanted in his brain transmit signals to a computer that displays them on the screen.

And, a day later, a follow up. Facebook was one of the primary sources of funds for the above research. Facebook has decided that as the commercial promise of the work is low, they’re pulling their funding. They’re going to focus on a wrist mounted device that helps in limb movement instead, by reading nerve impulses in limbs.

Not that this latter isn’t useful, and it probably is a bit more easily commercialised. Sticking electrodes into brains is always an interesting sell.

Whether this all quite applies to AI, per the event guidelines, is well, for ya’ll to decide. There is lots of ML (machine learning) happening in the analysis of nerve impulses and converting them to speech or movement.

 

[bettiezyx]

To wit: Brain implants allow man to speak



And, a day later, a follow up. Facebook was one of the primary sources of funds for the above research. Facebook has decided that as the commercial promise of the work is low, they’re pulling their funding. They’re going to focus on a wrist mounted device that helps in limb movement instead, by reading nerve impulses in limbs.

Not that this latter isn’t useful, and it probably is a bit more easily commercialised. Sticking electrodes into brains is always an interesting sell.

Whether this all quite applies to AI, per the event guidelines, is well, for ya’ll to decide. There is lots of ML (machine learning) happening in the analysis of nerve impulses and converting them to speech or movement.

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable story threat for the topic. AI could simply be the code on the brain-reading chip. Imagine if it worked like that Jim Carey movie where he couldn't lie...