Ageplay Revisited

[graceanne]

Well there's a first time for everything.

*puts a plate of chocolate cookies outside the thread to distract gracie*

*pbbth* *sulks over cookies*

This interesting because some of the observable, physical changes that occur between couples who are attracted to each other - particularly in the first three months - very much mimic age regression. Women's voices become higher in tone, (more girlish), one partner will feed the other, grooming, lap sitting, all things a child and parent might do. This is noticeable in all new relationships, vanilla or otherwise.

My "little" is 30. LOL. Kidding. Honestly, age play does nothing for me and, though I'm often playful, I really don't have an inner child. I can understand the appeal, as described in this thread, but only objectively. I'd be suspicious of a man who wanted me to behave as a child, not for reasons of pedophilia - make of that what you will.

That's pretty much me. I'm silly and playful, and it's (for me) not an immaturity, childlike thing. I consider it healthy for people to be silly occasionally.

 

[00Syd]

I'm much more interested in pet play than I am in ageplay but I think for very similar reasons to those that people have posted about on this thread in regards to ageplay.

 

[BiBunny]

I'm much more interested in pet play than I am in ageplay but I think for very similar reasons to those that people have posted about on this thread in regards to ageplay.

We do pet play, too, LOL. It's not animal play, but human pet play. The two tend to have a lot of overlap.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

We do pet play, too, LOL. It's not animal play, but human pet play. The two tend to have a lot of overlap.

I suppose they would. It also follows that (I imagine) few who engage in petplay actually want or practise bestiality. While very young kids and pets are as similar as they are different, I suppose the huge squick factor is that people are far more protective of their 5yr old than their Labrador.

 

[missginger2177]

Not to be completely off-topic, but I must ask (for sake of my own sanity). What is squick?

 

[Homburg]

Not to be completely off-topic, but I must ask (for sake of my own sanity). What is squick?

I'll let the Urban Dictionary answer this one.

1. squick
1. Noun. The physical sense of repulsion upon encountering a concept or situation one finds disgusting.
2. Noun. A situation or concept which engenders this reaction.
3. Verb, transitive. To cause someone to have this reaction.
4. Verb, intransitive. To experience this reaction.

The concept of the "squick" differs from the concept of "disgust" in that "squick" refers purely to the physical sensation of repulsion, and does not imply a moral component.

Stating that something is "disgusting" implies a judgement that it is bad or wrong. Stating that something "squicks you" is merely an observation of your reaction to it, but does not imply a judgement that such a thing is universally wrong.

The statement "kiddie porn squicks me" and "kiddie porn disgusts me" may both be true. In my case, the second sentence is true, and I assume that the first is also true, but, having never encountered it, I have no way of knowing for sure.

In general, distinguishing between "squick" and "disgust" is an important part of living in a tolerant society.

It is my contention that most anti-gay attitudes, for instance, are the result of people finding that gay sex squicks them -- and, because they don't know about the concept of the "squick", they assume that gay sex DISGUSTS them, which implies that there is something morally objectionable about it.
Joe loves hot wax, needles through sensitive parts of his body, cutting, and flogging -- but tickling? That squicks him.
by Ian Osmond Jan 18, 2004

2. squick
A term originated around 1994 in the alt.tasteless newsgroup as a response to the question "What is the sound of a good skull fucking?" The term was quickly picked up by the alt.fuck.the.skull.of.jesus group and used primarily within Subgenius circles as a verb meaning "To fuck someone in the skull." The term was co-opted by the BDSM community some time latter, and its original meaning is often overlooked or ignored.

I included the second definition for word origin interests. I'm a big fan of word origin and history, and I remember when the word came out. I was not on those newsgroups, but on a mailing list that had good reason to use the word "squick" in its' original format, and in the later usage that the BDSM world (and others) prefer.

And before anyone asks, the list was about a particular RPG, and the subject of trepanation was important for a particular subplot.

 

[missginger2177]

Thank you.

 

[Etoile]

Co-opted by the BDSM community? I had no idea. I honestly thought it was nerd terminology that had gone "mainstream" on the internet.

Good thread. More later.

 

[graceanne]

Co-opted by the BDSM community? I had no idea. I honestly thought it was nerd terminology that had gone "mainstream" on the internet.

Good thread. More later.

Yeah, me too.

 

[eastern sun]

This is something my husband and I have played with on occasions, and always during sex. And it has felt edgier and more taboo than anything else we have ever done.

I always feel like I'm about five or six years old, and I'm afraid. And he gets very, very gentle, even while his voice deepens and his will gets hard, saying "don't worry, little girl. it won't hurt." And in my mind, my body has become smaller and his body has become larger, and I whimper and shut my eyes and try to keep my legs closed and stay very, very still.

We both get turned on by it.

And the first time we did it, I thought it was triggering subconscious memories on my part (I have very little memory before the age of eight) and/or tapping into some pedophiliac tendency in him. But I don't think that way any more.

He is often at his most gentlest with me when we're playing this game.

 

[BiBunny]

This is something my husband and I have played with on occasions, and always during sex. And it has felt edgier and more taboo than anything else we have ever done.

I always feel like I'm about five or six years old, and I'm afraid. And he gets very, very gentle, even while his voice deepens and his will gets hard, saying "don't worry, little girl. it won't hurt." And in my mind, my body has become smaller and his body has become larger, and I whimper and shut my eyes and try to keep my legs closed and stay very, very still.

We both get turned on by it.

And the first time we did it, I thought it was triggering subconscious memories on my part (I have very little memory before the age of eight) and/or tapping into some pedophiliac tendency in him. But I don't think that way any more.

He is often at his most gentlest with me when we're playing this game.

Easternsun, I envy the way that you can put everything I'm feeling into so few words, while I can babble all day and never get my point across. I am especially with you on the sentence I bolded.

 

[ataxia.girl]

I suppose I also fail to understand how a 'little' can display childlike, innocent traits while still being considered a sexual being by the 'big' partner. How does it work to be 7 and also a sexual pyl?

i first started masturbating when i was 5. i found out very early by my mother constantly trying to catch me in the act to scold me that it was a bad bad thing. i have an extremely hard time experiencing sexual pleasure in the presence of another person. i use ageplay to *try* to go back to before i knew how bad and horrible and evil it was to feel good "down there".

Childhood for me was an erotic experience. i was not abused or molested in anyway but i was highly sexual. i loved sitting on men's laps and smelling their masculine smell. Listening to their deep voices reverberate in their chests. Watching smoke rings above the table where my father and his friends played cards while i served them pretend tea in tiny plastic cups. i adored sitting under that table. For some reason under there i didn't feel so horrid and evil. i think on some level i could tell those men wouldn't make me feel so bad about feeling nice "down there" as my mom and the people at church did.

i have other Daddy issues and resentments which used to be reserved for my father but are now largely directed at Daddy. It feels good to have a safe place to express that frustration and disappointment.

Anyway... that's why i like to be little and how it is sexual for me.

How do limits/tolerances/tastes/dynamics etc change when you're little? I'm curious as to how it all works.

Oh and as regards this part... i tell Daddy all the time not to put his tongue in my mouth because its gross but he still does it. Its weird because its gross and then seems like when he does for awhile its not gross anymore. Kinda confusing.

 

[eastern sun]

Easternsun, I envy the way that you can put everything I'm feeling into so few words, while I can babble all day and never get my point across. I am especially with you on the sentence I bolded.

Thank you, BiBunny. You can be quite eloquent yourself. I always enjoy reading your posts.

 

[Adakgirl]

I haven't done any age play in the way it's described here. This is probably veering off topic but here it is. I know that several incidents of molestation at age 6 or 7, by an old man (my babysitters husband) formed certain elements within me that still to this day turn me on in an instant.

I could not figure out what made me so very attracted to men far older than myself and why on earth I became so sexually excited when I masturbated or had sex wearing only white knee-high socks and a blouse or T-shirt. (hahhaha I know, I know)

One day the memories came flooding back to me and they were happy, good feeling memories too. I was being "rocked" on this old man's knee, he had a hold of my hips, moving me to the rhythm of his rocking chair, my sisters were asleep on the couch. Never having had men in my household, I felt safe and secure on this man's knee (pappabear we called him) and what he was doing to me felt good. I was wearing white knee socks and a dress. Also a memory of sitting fully on his lap, not his knee and the feeling through my panties of a big hard hot thing being rubbing back and forth in the crack of my bottom.

Once remembered, I never thought of those times as being molestations, or had any feelings of being victimized in any way, because it felt wonderful to me and liked it. I remember wanting him to do it and asking him to pick me up and rock me as soon as we arrived at their home after school.

These were probably my very first sexual feelings and first orgasmic experiences. I believe that is the basic reason behind why some elements of age-play immediately get me hot and wet. Examples of such are when a man tells me what a good little girl I am or calls me his good, good girl, occasionally referring to a lover as "daddy" and having to ask permission from men to do certain things. As well as that extra quirky excitement I get when wearing white knee socks during masturbation or sex...and my lifelong attraction towards older men. (Not that ONLy older men attract me, cuz all ages over 21 seem to)

So I understand completely the feelings that some of you have expressed in this thread that can come with age play. Feelings of intense sexual arousal, safety, security, gentleness, closeness.

This is my contribution to your thread BiBunny be it a useless rambling one or not, there ya go!

 

[ownedsubgal]

Adakgirl, that was hot. very interesting too of course, but majorly hot.


(and i'm not ashamed to admit it either, so there! )

 

[Adakgirl]

Ya I just love BiBunny's thread topics don't you? I will show self restraint by not elaborating on what all I remember but just so you know...that is a very difficult thing for me to do.

 

[BiBunny]

I appreciate everyone's input! This thread is shaping up to be really interested. My brain is kind of fried at the moment (spending the weekend at your parents' will do that do you), but once I'm thinking straight again, I'll come back. I'd love to hear some other stuff y'all would like to share.

 

[BiBunny]

I was talking to my Master and Mistress the other day, talking about how my little girl seems to come out more and more frequently nowadays. Not in an obnoxious manner, but more of an inquisitive and affectionate manner.

I asked them why they thought it was. Mistress didn't have an answer, but Master did. He told me that he thought the little girl was an extreme representation of submission inside me and that her making an appearance more often was just a sign of what he already knew, which is that I've accepted that I'm submissive completely to them and that my place is to be theirs and to be little.

I asked him if he didn't want a big girl submissive sometimes because, surely, dealing with a little girl most of the time must be exhausting. His response made me smile.

"Why? The little ones are so much fun."

I love my Owners.

 

[nh23]

I was talking to my Master and Mistress the other day, talking about how my little girl seems to come out more and more frequently nowadays. Not in an obnoxious manner, but more of an inquisitive and affectionate manner.

I asked them why they thought it was. Mistress didn't have an answer, but Master did. He told me that he thought the little girl was an extreme representation of submission inside me and that her making an appearance more often was just a sign of what he already knew, which is that I've accepted that I'm submissive completely to them and that my place is to be theirs and to be little.

I asked him if he didn't want a big girl submissive sometimes because, surely, dealing with a little girl most of the time must be exhausting. His response made me smile.

"Why? The little ones are so much fun."

I love my Owners.

Aww..that was sweet.

 

[BiBunny]

Aww..that was sweet.

I know.

Sometimes, I feel like I gush too much about them. But, dear God, after all I've been through for this man, I can't even put into words how happy I am now.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

2. squick
A term originated around 1994 in the alt.tasteless newsgroup as a response to the question "What is the sound of a good skull fucking?" The term was quickly picked up by the alt.fuck.the.skull.of.jesus group and used primarily within Subgenius circles as a verb meaning "To fuck someone in the skull." The term was co-opted by the BDSM community some time latter, and its original meaning is often overlooked or ignored.

"To fuck the skull" = "to fuck the mind" = "mind fuck" = an appropriate term for BDSM use...

Happy to help. ;-)

 

[HisSexyPet]

I was molested by my step grandpa when I was around 6 and it lasted several years. I know exactly how Adakgirl feels as I loved the feeling and would climb on Grandpa's lap all the time to get him to play with me under my dresses.
I also fantasized about my Daddy coming to me after he finished with mommy.

The first stories I read when I came to Lit were of Daddy/daughter. And I have rp'd with quite a few guys as daddy's little girl. I love age play. It takes me back to the time when Grandpa and I had our special times. Being one of 4 kids I didn't get to feel special much.

I have never been little in a real relationship, but love the thought of it. B also loves it, so I am sure we will delve more into this when we get to be together again.

I am new to posting on the boards, but have been reading them for a month. I feel I know all of y'all well. I hope to come out of my shell more now and share with you.

 

[00Syd]

Last night Seb fucked me really, really hard, and it hurt, and it was rough, and I really ached the whole night. Afterwards I think I might have felt a tiny bit little. Only... I don't think I felt so much little as I felt very small. And I know that people probably read that and go "uh, whats the difference?" but there is a very large difference in my mind. Feeling little for me means to feel like a little girl, but feeling small for me means feeling physically tiny. I felt like I could curl up in the palm of his hand. But I also felt way more eager to please than usual, way more skittish, and I guess as a whole way more submissivie. When I woke up it occured to me that I might have gone little, since I was acting pretty childish, like a bit of a frightened or shocked child. I'm not sure though. Usually when I find myself feeling "small" I feel much more pet-like than child-like so this was really a surprise. I need to think about it more.

 

[nh23]

ITW! Laps! Family Members! Laps! *hyperventilates*

 

[Fantasies_only]

There's been a bit of discussion about ageplay in this thread, on the last page. I mentioned there that I'd thought about starting a thread about the subject. It generated a bit of interest, so I decided I'd give it a shot.

I posted a thread a couple of years ago about the subject, but because I'd like to take a somewhat different tack than last time, I decided to start another thread rather than bump the old one.

I know this is something that's not discussed here much, mostly because it squicks folks. I'm hoping for an interesting discussion in spite of that. I'd like for people who are interested in or just curious about ageplay to ask questions and share experiences.

If at all possible, I'd like to keep the "OMG, that's sooooo gross!!!!" comments to a minimum.

Night, all. I shall eagerly await your responses.

Well, I wouldn't age play since in some countries it's illegal and although not illegal the US, it is frowned upon, and in some situations (like cyber sex) it IS illegal.

I am curious though.
Has anyone here done this without the other person knowing what age you are?

I thought you were talking about Internet age play such as AO MMOs.

Since I put my 2 cents in, I've been thinking about it, and although not arousing, I am very curious, but as I said Internet age play is illegal to immoral in some people's eyes, but if I knew your REAL age beforehand, just maybe it would be ok.
I'll look for a site to try this on (not full of hardcore porn or pedophile playgrounds).
I'd want you (girl) to be a sub not a dom (master older), and we can never switch places.
I do think it would be prudent to type a disclaimer before each session partially because of the things I have posted here in the past.

P.S. Incest fiction is mandatory.