About that Muslim Brotherhood...

[vrosej10]

We're supposed to get ripped off?

Maybe that's your problem Down Under...

No but not muscling smaller countries would be nice. Honour amongst theives and all that. You can't tell me that there isn't something in the American society that thinks you lot are just better than everyone and the world would be a better place if it was all exactly like the US....

And what is that exactly?

You meddle and fiddle as a nation. It seems to be a hobby.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

This is instruction for the US only. You lot fiddle in other people's business just enough to render them dependant on you and then wander off whistling...

You can't make someone dependent who was first proud and independent unless you make unjust war on them. We haven't really done a lot of that to anyone other than those damned dirty injuns...

And as you keep saying, that was OUR business what we did to OUR citizens...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

No but not muscling smaller countries would be nice. Honour amongst theives and all that. You can't tell me that there isn't something in the American society that thinks you lot are just better than everyone and the world would be a better place if it was all exactly like the US....



You meddle and fiddle as a nation. It seems to be a hobby.

Good luck finding a smaller country to muscle... Lesser Antilles?

 

[miles]

No but not muscling smaller countries would be nice. Honour amongst theives and all that. You can't tell me that there isn't something in the American society that thinks you lot are just better than everyone and the world would be a better place if it was all exactly like the US....



You meddle and fiddle as a nation. It seems to be a hobby.

Ahhh......meddling and fiddling. Very insightful.

 

[vrosej10]

You can't make someone dependent who was first proud and independent unless you make unjust war on them. We haven't really done a lot of that to anyone other than those damned dirty injuns...

And as you keep saying, that was OUR business what we did to OUR citizens...

You lot are always wandering round the world stage sticking your noses into other peoples domestics. Got one word for you: Vietnam.

Couldn't say shit about the indians. We treat our indigenous like shit. In fact they are a pefect example of what happens when an outside culture meddles in one they don't understand and forcibly imports their cultural mores....

Good luck finding a smaller country to muscle... Lesser Antilles?

We just bully New Zealand!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The French got us into Vietnam...

Then the Democrats took over; then they decided to lose and give it back to the communists.





So you don't do anything about iSlammer terrorism from Indonesia?

 

[vrosej10]

The French got us into Vietnam...

Then the Democrats took over; then they decided to lose and give it back to the communists.





So you don't do anything about iSlammer terrorism from Indonesia?

No excuses now. If France stuck their hand in the fire, would you do it too? You need to RESIST peer pressure like a grown up country...

Not really except hassle Indo to give any they catch the harshest possible punishment. We're still hoping that we might get along.

 

[vrosej10]

Ahhh......meddling and fiddling. Very insightful.

Not feeling particularly insightful tonight. If you want to count this one as a victory against my left wing bullshit, I won't hold it against ya.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Maybe we should get involved in Rwanda...

A recent online article posted on NY Times Live tells a great medical success story in Rwanda. The author describes the opening of a "Harvard quality" hospital in Butaro, Rwanda where they had previously had no medical facilities at all.

The 150-bed Butaro hospital was built in only two years at a cost of R40-million. (The cost of a comparable hospital in the U.S. would be 225-300 million USD). The physical structure itself is designed to scrub the air twelve times per hour to reduce risk of airborne infection. Here, that requires multi-million dollar machines. The Butaro hospital has advanced laboratory facilities, telemedicine capability, and a fully functional, user-friendly electronic records system.

In a country where the annual per capita income was $510 in 2009, patients get as high quality medical care as we get here in the richest nation on earth. But wait - their care is better! Why? Because it cost a tiny fraction of what health care costs us here.

What is missing from the new hospital in Butaro? Answer: things that waste money, such as unnecessary duplication and the #1 dollar waster in U.S. healthcare: a massively bloated bureaucracy needed to support a costly and harmful regulatory machine.
...
Hospitals in Rwanda do not waste time and money preparing for a Review by the Joint Commission (JC). They do not have to hide their doorstops on take down the books on top shelves. If the JC reviewers find doorstops or anything within 18 inches on the ceiling tiles in doctors' offices, they can close the hospital because those infractions will place them "out of compliance."

Nurses in Rwanda can spend time with patients, time that American nurses must waste in repeated annual training modules about security upgrades, ethics infractions, theoretical biohazards, and the next set of regulations that must be followed to the letter.

Nurses in Rwanda can use the infection prevention checklist without filing a research protocol with the FDA.

In Rwanda, restocking hospital supplies does not require multiple committee meetings, forms in quadruplicate, and pre-approval by legal counsel.

In Rwanda, research to find better ways to treat patients does not require 87 different steps*, each involving multiple committee meetings, thousands of man-hours and billions of red tape dollars.

*The number 87 was not picked at random. Dr. David Dilts at Vanderbilt reported in a 2006 article that number of different steps are mandated when going from an idea to actually starting a clinical research project.

One more thing that is missing in Rwanda: Federal organizational charts. Go online and look at the organizational charts for the NIH or the FDA. Then recognize that every box represents a whole agency with its own organizational chart, and each box in a box represents hundreds of bureaucrats, thousands of regulations to oversee, billions of dollars to consume, and thousands of providers to hound right out of health care.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/whats_missing_from_healthcare.html


How dare they threaten the health of their citizenry with unregulated health care!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

No excuses now. If France stuck their hand in the fire, would you do it too? You need to RESIST peer pressure like a grown up country...

Not really except hassle Indo to give any they catch the harshest possible punishment. We're still hoping that we might get along.

Our Left would stick BOTH hands in in an attempt to impress le Frogges for just a little curried favor and acceptance...





We'll always have Paris!

I'll betcha you're doing a little meddling and fiddling, it just might be on the QT...

 

[vrosej10]

Maybe we should get involved in Rwanda...


http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/whats_missing_from_healthcare.html


How dare they threaten the health of their citizenry with unregulated health care!

And you say government health programs can't work?! Geez louise. Monday I will be seeing a private dentist for a dry socket abscess and it will cost me nothing...knock Aussie next time you're forking out a motza on dental bills....

 

[vrosej10]

Our Left would stick BOTH hands in in an attempt to impress le Frogges for just a little curried favor and acceptance...





We'll always have Paris!

I'll betcha you're doing a little meddling and fiddling, it just might be on the QT...

Yeh I kind suspect ASIO has it's hands up the butts of few people round asia. I don't approve generally. I am not a patriot.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

And you say government health programs can't work?! Geez louise. Monday I will be seeing a private dentist for a dry socket abscess and it will cost me nothing...knock Aussie next time you're forking out a motza on dental bills....

You mean, you pay NO taxes? Directly or indirectly?

I'm sorry, but that is just kind of a naive statement; of course you're paying for it by way of revolving retainer and your government loves the fact that these hidden costs are not calculated by you but seen as "costless."

 

[Beco]

And you say government health programs can't work?! Geez louise. Monday I will be seeing a private dentist for a dry socket abscess and it will cost me nothing...knock Aussie next time you're forking out a motza on dental bills....

Dry cocket abscess? gross....I just ate breakfast

 

[jeninflorida]

I still want to know, islamic men wear dresses, do they shave their legs?

Meet the new boss.....same as the old boss

I want to see, if and when they install that new government, how they deal with the Gaza border, if they keep the peace agreement with Israel, and what they plan to do with their faltering economy, which basically created the whole mess in the first place.

 

[Beco]

I still want to know, islamic men wear dresses, do they shave their legs?

Just think, this could be the last real protest Egyptians will be allowed to particpate in on their own free will....

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Revolution against tyranny is in the air, from Cairo Egypt to Cairo Illinois...

Perceived lack of opportunity by the Middle Class and bad times while government parties...

Of course, the sluggishness in the labor market is hardly surprising. The Obama administration and its willing accomplices in the Congress just spent two years rewarding their supporters with new economic rigidities like ObamaCare, stimulus spending for government workers, new environmental penalties like the EPA effort to regulate carbon dioxide, slowdowns and outright bans on energy production, meddling in the housing market, and billions in subsidies to its supporters in the crony capitalist green energy business. It seems that the only thing our politicians know is to reward their supporters and send their thugs out to beat the economy into submission.

Pretty soon the voters will be ready to throw the bums out and vote for hope and change. After all, there are millions of jobless out there, and sooner or later they are going to get desperate. But let me make it clear. The situation in the US is nothing like the situation in Egypt. For instance, we don't have millions of people in the streets.

We do? You are saying that the American people the Tea Party movement have been in the streets peacefully protesting ever since the winter of 2009? Well, I suppose you have a point. And based on his State of the Union speech, the President still thinks that the answer to our problems is more government, a program described by the divine Sarah as "a bullet train to bankruptcy."

Anyway, violence never solved anything. War is not the answer. That is what those nice silver-haired liberal ladies tell us from the bumpers of their Toyota Priuses.

Excuse me, lady. What do you think that the individual mandate is all about? It says: go get health insurance or else. What do you think that universal compulsory education is all about? It says: send your kid to school or government may take her away. What do you think that taxation is all about? Pay your taxes or go to jail. So you see that it's not just thug dictators that believe in force and violence; nice educated liberal ladies of a certain age believe in force too.

We conservatives are different. We believe in dialing down the level of force in society, starting with government force. We believe that the way to get America back to work is not with crony capitalist green energy and bullet trains to bankruptcy. We believe it starts with lower tax rates and lower government spending. We believe, with Deirdre McCloskey, in the great middle class, a bourgeoisie dignified and free: free to innovate and free to experiment.

In that city on a hill, where you and I have a rendezvous with destiny, there is a slow, steady evolution every day as new ideas in the economy drive out old ideas, as a few people every day lose their jobs and a few people find new jobs, so there is never a need to take to the streets. In the culmination of this incandescent vision, the last best hope of mankind on earth, government is limited and greedy bankers don't take home the big bucks.

It's not asking much. Limited government, a middle class that's innovative and free, jobs, jobs, jobs, and everyone trying to make the world immediately around them a better place for them and their children. Call it American exceptionalism, the middle class alternative to bloody revolution in the streets of Cairo.

Christopher Chantrill
The American Thinker

 

[zipman]

Australia and not impressed with our actions either but we seem to be the US's butt boy and follow them only into conflicts. My point was that the US sticks their nose lots of conflicts but only for self serving reasons and then claims its motives are humanitarian.

Perhaps it's time for the rest of the world to stop sitting on their asses and demonstrate some leadership on world issues and problems. It's easy to sit and criticize and much harder to actually do something.

 

[jeninflorida]

Just think, this could be the last real protest Egyptians will be allowed to particpate in on their own free will....

a 2nd question that is just as interesting, what's his name has accumulated a "wealth" between $50-70 billion.....interesting

 

[Beco]

a 2nd question that is just as interesting, what's his name has accumulated a "wealth" between $50-70 billion.....interesting

Actually I read where its really $500 million, and they put a freeze on his assets, whatever that means. I know he owns property in California and NY, but like I said, he won't be out on the street anytime soon.

I'm wondering where he will live now, US? France? Also, I still think the USA/Obama turn its back on one of the few allies we have over there...sort of like they did to Israel

 

[overthebow]

I read a joke told in Egypt (and I will not tell it well).

A shopkeeper has the pictures of Nasser, Sadat and Mubarek on his wall. A foreigner asks who they are. The shopkeeper says Nasser freed the country, Sadat made peace with Israel. Mubarek? "He's the father of my business partner."

Mubarek family holdings are supposed to be in single digit billion dollars. The family holds properties outside of Egypt.

 

[Beco]

I read a joke told in Egypt (and I will not tell it well).

A shopkeeper has the pictures of Nasser, Sadat and Mubarek on his wall. A foreigner asks who they are. The shopkeeper says Nasser freed the country, Sadat made peace with Israel. Mubarek? "He's the father of my business partner."

Mubarek family holdings are supposed to be in single digit billion dollars. The family holds properties outside of Egypt.

Egyptians are not funny people....

 

[vrosej10]

You mean, you pay NO taxes? Directly or indirectly?

I'm sorry, but that is just kind of a naive statement; of course you're paying for it by way of revolving retainer and your government loves the fact that these hidden costs are not calculated by you but seen as "costless."

It's covered in the medicare levy which is about 1.5% of income but I am at a nontaxable income level currently so doesn't effect me. I do pay the GST like everyone else who purchases stuff but this is NOT the medicare levy which is specific. They use the GST to fund sucking up to the US.

 

[eyer]

Tom Tancredo's take:

Obama's Islamic tilt in Egypt

Posted: February 12, 2011
1:00 am Eastern

"The difference between Jimmy Carter's mistakes in handling the 1979 revolution in Iran and Obama's handling of the 2011 revolution in Egypt is that Carter's team made mistakes out of ignorance and naiveté. Thirty-one years later, Obama's diplomatic team cannot claim naiveté in dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood and the radical Islamists. Obama is consciously supporting the Islamists in Egypt and facilitating their rise to power."

"Obama went to Cairo in 2009 to deliver his first speech on foreign soil, a speech that was billed as his "outreach to the Muslim world." Obama specifically requested that representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood be invited to the speech."

"What we need most is regime change in Washington, D.C."


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=262489#ixzz1DoGQYVWA

 

[mercury14]

I still want to know, islamic men wear dresses, do they shave their legs?

Because you are the center of the world I take it?