Abortion clarified

[SevMax2]

I live in a state that supports drive thru abortion and I’m surrounded by states that also support support it. Overturning R vs W had no impact on my state.

How does one get a "drive-through" abortion? Do the medical staff go to your car and bring all of that medical equipment into the crowded backseat? Sounds a bit impractical and improbable to me.

 

[SevMax2]

I don't think that people should cheat if they are denied sex, but they shouldn't be surprised if denying someone sex irreparably damages it. Men in particular tend to need sex to experience emotional intimacy. The marriage pretty much declines on autopilot after that, and after a while if not course-corrected, if the other partner dismisses that need entirely and denies that it's an issue, it will likely damage the relationship beyond repair. Divorce/breakups are the most likely result, and if not that, a marriage of convenience that is more of a business partnership than a romance. In many cases, the husband just hangs on until the kids are grown and then leaves. Also, in certain cases, when a wife cuts a man off, it's a sign that she is cheating herself. Men don't tend to cut off their wives while cheating. Women do. When the marriage ends, of course, the main reason why so many men remarry so fast is that so many women are waiting in the wings and snap them right up. Also, I notice that society tends to forgive cheating wives (or excuse them, blame their husbands), but condemn cheating husbands (no one seems to blame cheated wives when the husband strays). A bit of a double standard there.

It is also interesting that gay marriage among men has the lowest divorce rate, followed by straight couples, and the highest rate is among lesbian couples.

To be fair, it should be noted that women often need emotional intimacy to enjoy physical intimacy, so men absolutely need to listen to their women's needs, too. It's not a one-way street. It's just that this latter phenomenon is already discussed quite a bit and a lot of attention is given to that. There isn't nearly as much attention to men's needs as to women's.

Another caveat is that sometimes women don't seem to need emotional intimacy to enjoy physical, but that's for whatever reason often (not always) with a different set of men than the ones with whom they have long-term partnerships. Not always, of course. It's certainly not universal. But it's a common enough phenomenon, and the usual conclusion by the man, especially if there is cheating involved on her end, is that she was simply not physically attracted to her long-term partner, just using him for resources. In other words, that she settled for him and that's why she had a bunch of obstacles and hurdles for him and not for the other guys, to whom she was attracted.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Sure bud,you keep thinking that.

You can use words to define it all you like, but that’s where it ends. You know that, so dont embarass yourself any further.

 

[HisArpy]

You can use words to define it all you like, but that’s where it ends. You know that, so dont embarass yourself any further.

You're fees fees aren't the law. The law establishes what is what, not you.

 

[HisArpy]

The law cant create life, fool.

It can only try with its letters and vowels to describe it by grunting it out to us other apes.

Dummy.

Lol, you're right. It DEFINES it. And without that definition you have nothing. An indescribable void.

Kind of like your rationale but more filling.

 

[HisArpy]

Lol you’re funny.

Thats some high grade bullshit right there.

I know you say you have a JD.

Matchbook Cover diploma?

Ad Hom, the ever castrating admission that you lost the debate.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Ad Hom, the ever castrating admission that you lost the debate.

The Sgt Spidertwat School of Law?

“ i declare this debate over!”

Lol

 

[HisArpy]

The Sgt Spidertwat School of Law?

“ i declare this debate over!”

Lol

Not my fault you're still an asshole.

 

[HisArpy]

Oh i’m definitely an asshole.

But no matter how many times you describe getting fucked in the ass here, there’s no new life in your rectum until your eggs are fertilized.

Doubling down on being an asshole doesn't help anyone believe your bullshit. It just makes you look like a bigger asshole. One with flaming piles.

 

[Lazaran]

You know it's bad when TinyFuckBoi is trying to be sensible.

You’re being too generous.

NastyFuckBoy equated the fanatical religious zealots with "the leftists" (pro-choice individuals) on the issue of abortion.

One side (the religious zealots) says: “Because I believe something, I have the right to control others.” (even if it currently is reserved to a certain large block of red states).

Meanwhile, the pro-choice side says: “It’s each individual woman’s choice, in consolation with her conscience, her doctor, and her family (if she chooses to include them.) up to the point of true viability and even beyond that point when there is medical risks to the mother or some catastrophic event with the fetus.

Big difference - and science AND morality are clearly on the pro-choice side in the larger debate.

Full stop.

 

[Lazaran]

Just the opposite. Unfortunately you refuse enlighten yourself to the other side. I believe that a fetus should have some protection from people like you. You believe a fetus is just a bunch of cells. We believe that at conception a fetus is a human being. Pro-choice should include the wide range of choices outside and other than abortion. Most conservatives don’t agree that a total abortion ban is feasible but we do believe in limits, and you know the limits, I shouldn’t need to explain them to you.

In my state abortion is totally legal. SCOTUS overturned R vs W and my state is continuing with its past practices. What happens in other states is none of my business or yours for that matter.

So much fascist, stupid and wrong in that post.



ineedhelp1

 

[TastySuckToy]

I don't think that people should cheat if they are denied sex, but they shouldn't be surprised if denying someone sex irreparably damages it.

My view is if a marriage is at a point where one spouse is unilaterally denying sex to the other, it's already rubble to begin with. If you're denying your spouse intimacy, then I see zero problem with intimacy being sought elsewhere, because in my eyes the marriage is already dead at that point.

Some people may stay married at that point for a multitude of reasons, but the marriage is a dead one in my eyes.

I consider the issue in the same vein as cheating on a spouse; it's a marriage ending issue. Others are free to disagree and think a marriage is salvageable at that point. I, however, do not. If my wife so much as even brought up the idea of something like an 'open marriage', she just ended it right there as if she handed me divorce papers.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

 

[Rightguide]

Americans Rejected the Harris-Walz Radical Abortion Campaign​

Shawn Carney | Nov 07, 2024

Photo/Susan Walsh
A clear message has been sent to the political elite: America does not want an abortion-first future.

Kamala Harris bet everything on an unprecedented, no-limits abortion agenda as the core of her campaign, only to find that voters were not willing to follow her down that bleak, depressing path. At a time when citizens are most concerned with inflation, immigration, and national security, Harris’ single-issue focus fell flat with the majority of everyday Americans.

Polling consistently showed that while abortion is a polarizing topic, it is far from the top priority for most Americans. A recent poll found only 15 percent of voters consider abortion their primary concern, compared to 40 percent prioritizing the economy and 17 percent focused on immigration.

Ignoring these signs, Harris chose to make abortion her campaign’s centerpiece, assuming that a radical stance would ignite her base and even reach across the aisle. Instead, it alienated voters looking for real solutions to the real challenges they face caused by the current administration.

The rest here: https://townhall.com/columnists/sha...arris-walz-radical-abortion-campaign-n2647440

 

[Lance_Castro]

View attachment 2422821

Americans are Puritans at heart… anything having to do with sexual activity causes shrinkage.

 

[Politruk]

The rest here: https://townhall.com/columnists/sha...arris-walz-radical-abortion-campaign-n2647440

Townhall:

• Overall, we rate Townhall Right Biased and Questionable based on consistent one-sided reporting that always favors the right and numerous failed fact checks.

 

[icanhelp1]

But you understand that is a faith based argument and holds no weight with those who don't share said faith?

And if faith is sufficient an argument, which is just personal belief, then leftists have the same level of justification you do for their position.

You're correct. I never force my beliefs on anyone. Millions of us Christians hold to that belief and we have a vote just like advocates for pro choice. What I find is that pro choice are much more likely to radicalize against pro-lifers, sometimes to the point of violence. I live in a dark blue state and abortions are up but you won't see me setting my hair on fire. The law is the law and sobeit. I'm not saying that pro-choice have never been violent but I don't believe it's that prevalent today, I may be wrong, imho

 

[icanhelp1]

So Trump is lying and doesn’t understand how our courts and Constitution work. Got it, thanks.

YW

 

[icanhelp1]

How does one get a "drive-through" abortion? Do the medical staff go to your car and bring all of that medical equipment into the crowded backseat? Sounds a bit impractical and improbable to me.

It's fucking sarcasm dopey.

 

[icanhelp1]

So much fascist, stupid and wrong in that post.



ineedhelp1

You'd do well on the *VIEW*.

 

[TastySuckToy]

You're correct. I never force my beliefs on anyone. Millions of us Christians hold to that belief and we have a vote just like advocates for pro choice. What I find is that pro choice are much more likely to radicalize against pro-lifers, sometimes to the point of violence. I live in a dark blue state and abortions are up but you won't see me setting my hair on fire. The law is the law and sobeit. I'm not saying that pro-choice have never been violent but I don't believe it's that prevalent today, I may be wrong, imho

Fair enough. I can understand your point of view, but I take more of a scientific approach and consistent principles approach to the issue of abortion.

If there's two conflicting beliefs, the beliefs themselves have no weight either way, and must be justified with logic, evidence and consistent principles. At least in an ideal situation.

As it stands right now, it's more of a popularity contest rather than sound reasoning behind either side.

 

[Lazaran]

You're correct. I never force my beliefs on anyone. Millions of us Christians hold to that belief and we have a vote just like advocates for pro choice. What I find is that pro choice are much more likely to radicalize against pro-lifers, sometimes to the point of violence. I live in a dark blue state and abortions are up but you won't see me setting my hair on fire. The law is the law and sobeit. I'm not saying that pro-choice have never been violent but I don't believe it's that prevalent today, I may be wrong, imho

JFC.

The wrong and stupid from ineedhelp1 and the rest of the RWCJ has actually gotten worse since DonOld was re-elected.

I did not believe that ^ was possible.





ineedhelp1

 

[icanhelp1]

Fair enough. I can understand your point of view, but I take more of a scientific approach and consistent principles approach to the issue of abortion.

If there's two conflicting beliefs, the beliefs themselves have no weight either way, and must be justified with logic, evidence and consistent principles. At least in an ideal situation.

As it stands right now, it's more of a popularity contest rather than sound reasoning behind either side.

I have a degree in chemistry so I do have a science background but I also believe in a higher deity. Faith is something intangible.

My point is that there are many choices outside of abortion. Medical and pre-natal care, adoption agencies, others too numerous to mention.

 

[TastySuckToy]

I have a degree in chemistry so I do have a science background but I also believe in a higher deity. Faith is something intangible.

Well, I have my strong opinions and commentary on both those ideas, but perhaps another time.

My point is that there are many choices outside of abortion. Medical and pre-natal care, adoption agencies, others too numerous to mention.

Oh absolutely. The left has gone batshit crazy about abortion as far as I'm concerned, and they have extremely weak arguments/positions on the issue overall. And that's with me being mostly on their side, though not quite down the same path they take.

That said, the Right is also guilty of some very flawed and even disingenuous arguments on the issue as well.

Though in current times, I always expect a much more civil and rational debate from the Right, whereas the left tends to break down quickly and go straight to emotional and heated mode.

 

[icanhelp1]

Well, I have my strong opinions and commentary on both those ideas, but perhaps another time.

Oh absolutely. The left has gone batshit crazy about abortion as far as I'm concerned, and they have extremely weak arguments/positions on the issue overall. And that's with me being mostly on their side, though not quite down the same path they take.

That said, the Right is also guilty of some very flawed and even disingenuous arguments on the issue as well.

Though in current times, I always expect a much more civil and rational debate from the Right, whereas the left tends to break down quickly and go straight to emotional and heated mode.

All you have to do is get into a conversation with the likes of Adrina, Laz, BnF2, Roarbags and a few others and watch the ADHOM fly. lol