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A weighty issue

There are people with medical reasons for being overweight. But go to the store some Saturday and find an extremely overweight couple and look in their cart. My God, they'd be better off just buying two 10# bags of sugar to pour down their throats. And if it is not sugar its refined carbs. And they probably stopped at a fast food place and sucked down 1500 calories a piece before they got there. I predict in 30 years, 30% of people in America over the age of 45 will be disabled because of weight issues and on the government teat the rest of their lives.
 
I have an interesting slant on this subject.
About 15 years ago, I had a psychologist tell me that I confused my hunger/need for intimacy and sex with a desire for food. I ate sweet things, things which made me feel good when, in fact what I really needed was something more intimate.
Only now, am I beginning to see that he could have been onto something, as now I have the intimacy with a male that I internally craved for all those years and I find now that the desire to eat excessively is leaving me. I have actually dropped weight over the last two months due to this.
And in addition to the eating changes, the interaction I have with B is giving me more confidence. I have actually begun to want to start looking like a girl, eg
growing my fingernails, buying lingerie, improving my dress sense. I even bought my first pair of stillettos although if I ever fall off them, I'll probably give myself internal injuries.
 
Brandii said:
I have an interesting slant on this subject.
About 15 years ago, I had a psychologist tell me that I confused my hunger/need for intimacy and sex with a desire for food. I ate sweet things, things which made me feel good when, in fact what I really needed was something more intimate.
Only now, am I beginning to see that he could have been onto something, as now I have the intimacy with a male that I internally craved for all those years and I find now that the desire to eat excessively is leaving me. I have actually dropped weight over the last two months due to this.
And in addition to the eating changes, the interaction I have with B is giving me more confidence. I have actually begun to want to start looking like a girl, eg
growing my fingernails, buying lingerie, improving my dress sense. I even bought my first pair of stillettos although if I ever fall off them, I'll probably give myself internal injuries.
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I'm with you Brandii, I never wore skirts or dresses or anything really until I started dating G and going to the gym again cause of G. I suppose the happier you are in a relationship can affect the gain or loss of your own weight.
 
Here you go WD

You wanted another bikini picture... well all you get is the underwear but its the same thing... here ya go nothing fancy though
Alright more so of a comparison together... I don't see to much of a difference myself but ya know.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r49/Cherrysweetdeal/together.jpg
 
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It's hard to tell because of the lighting and you're wearing different clothes and such. But I'd definitely say you haven't lost any ground in 4 years. If you hadn't put dates on them I think I would have said the 2007 was better.
 
My girl's weight is just melting away. The only two things that have changed is that at the first of the year she went veggie. (No, that was NOT my idea.) And a month ago she got the wii.

Easy weight loss program or what?

LMAO.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
My girl's weight is just melting away. The only two things that have changed is that at the first of the year she went veggie. (No, that was NOT my idea.) And a month ago she got the wii.

Easy weight loss program or what?

LMAO.

Fury :rose:
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How old is your girl? I became an ovo-lacto vegetarian when I was 12 years old. I don't remember losing much weight at the time, I was a skinny kid anyway! But being a vegetarian alone will not help you lose weight...there's plenty of fatty and calorie-laden vegetarian foods! I bet it is mostly the dietary change that is helping her lose weight...being more conscious about what she eats.

Does she really lose weight with the Wii? What games does she play on it that give her a good workout? I have Dance Dance Revolution for the PS2, which is a popular workout game, but I am no good at it! I never get past the first two songs, and when those two songs are all you hear, it gets boring REAL fast.
 
She wasn't thin. I've had her researching the whole thing mostly because she really let's info sink in that way better than if I simply tell her. It's funny the things she is starting to crave!

She has wii sports but other wii games tend to involve more movement than games on regular systems. You know they say fidgeting alone can help one lose weight or even gum chewing.

Fury :rose:
 
I wonder if people eat for entertainment or for nourishment? How many people even stop to think about what they are putting in their mouths other than how it tastes? How could any overweight person even consider sitting down and consuming 1000 to 2000 calories at a fast food place? Or going back 3 or 4 times at a "all you can eat" place and then top it off with dessert?
 
People eat for a lot of reasons. Emotional reasons tend to top the pile. I've done the eat several plates and then dessert thing. I've also eating however many calories at a fast food joint it took for me to get what I craved and enjoy it. I don't eat meat so that helps a lot. Still you can get far too much fat and sugar. One key is to not do those sorts of things very often.

Fury :rose:
 
I honestly believe I over-ate because I wanted to be unattractive. I wasn't overweight until I hit my late-teens, which is about the same time I was really discovering my sexuality. I was pretty, slim, somewhat popular and had no shortage of dates. But, I was ashamed of my high sex drive and of the submissive (didn't know that's what they were then) tendancies I had. It was easier to become unattractive and not have to deal with it as much. Now that I am much older and learning to be comfortable with what I am I find myself putting much more effort into my health and appearance.

Boy, I sure wasted a lot of years.
 
WriterDom said:
I wonder if people eat for entertainment or for nourishment? How many people even stop to think about what they are putting in their mouths other than how it tastes? How could any overweight person even consider sitting down and consuming 1000 to 2000 calories at a fast food place? Or going back 3 or 4 times at a "all you can eat" place and then top it off with dessert?
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My mom and I talked a lot about the first point. It's been like 5 years ago now, but we both came to the conclution at the same time that we had a tendency to eat something, anything, while we were watching tv, whether we were hungry or not.

Now I decided to break this habbit, where as she decided to just limit it. How I broke it was I would sit with a bag of baby carrots inted of chips or what ever. With carrots you fill your belly and stop eating, with chips you have to pretty much eat the entire bag to get the same feeling. Eventually I was eating less and less carrots because I would realize I was full and stop eating. And now I just don't watch much tv. She's come a long way also, she'll still munch chips, but inted of bringing the bag to her chair, she'll only bring a small bowl, and once the bowl is empty she doesn't get more.

We also have a habbit of going out to eat when we want to spend time together, or need to talk, or had a bad day or something like that. But we're learning to only do it no more than once or twice a week (at one point we were doing it every day which not only got costly on calories but money as well). We're also sticking to places that are more sitdown types and not fast food, I get enough of that crap while I'm working.
 
I definitely eat for entertainment - I grew up in NYC. That is what people do. All the time. If you don't know someone, you talk about restaurants as a way to break the ice. I love to eat out. It's really the downfall of all the dietary advances I made over the last couple of years. Oh sure, you can do it less unhealthily, but keep doing it too often and your vigilance will suffer.

Now the thing I'm doing as my weight has been crawling up, is vowing to cook at home and not order anything in. I'll worry about how good or how bad it is for my gut once I start getting in the habit again.
 
WriterDom said:
I wonder if people eat for entertainment or for nourishment? How many people even stop to think about what they are putting in their mouths other than how it tastes? How could any overweight person even consider sitting down and consuming 1000 to 2000 calories at a fast food place? Or going back 3 or 4 times at a "all you can eat" place and then top it off with dessert?
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sorry, but this part of your post really irks me. being overweight is no fun, seeing and hearing the judgments of yourself simply because your 'fat' gets tiring. how can we think about eating that much? well because when you're bigger you need that much more to make you full. i'm not saying that i never eat out of habit or out of boredom, because i do, and that's how my overweight issue became a problem. i, myself do not go up 3 or 4 times at a buffet nor do i 'top it off with dessert' but as my ex boyfriend used to say ..it was a waste of money to take me out to eat at a buffet because i only went up one time and that was it.

honestly, i've seen more 'skinny' people go up that many times at a buffet than 'fat' ones. take my daughter or my ex husband for example. my ex husband is about 6 foot 2 and weighs about 130-140lbs, but he eats more than i have ever seen anyone eat, our daughter is the same way. alot of it is in the genes. my entire family are 'big' people. it's not that i CHOOSE to be fat, i just am. yes, i realize i could and i SHOULD lose some weight, but i will NEVER be 'skinny' and i wouldn't look healthy if i was, i would look sick, because i'm just not 'made' to be little.
 
I'm not talking about the people who truly struggle with weight issues and give a damn. It's the overweight people I see at Captain D's, where meals average about 1300 calories, and wash it down with a 300 calorie coke. Or the couple who average 300 pounds between them with a grocery cart full of sugar and starch.


I'm sure some heavy people eat like a bird, and I know of people who can't gain weight at all.
 
WriterDom said:
I'm not talking about the people who truly struggle with weight issues and give a damn. It's the overweight people I see at Captain D's, where meals average about 1300 calories, and wash it down with a 300 calorie coke. Or the couple who average 300 pounds between them with a grocery cart full of sugar and starch.


I'm sure some heavy people eat like a bird, and I know of people who can't gain weight at all.
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But these are just observations based on one time meetings. I'll have a big mac about once every 4 months or so, heaven knows why but I get a craving for them. I am not a small girl, so when some one off the street who knows big macs have x amount of calories in them looks at me a plus sized gal shoving one down my throught (with extra mac sause btw) I'm sure they get the same impression.

And a lot of people just don't make the effort to learn proper eating habbits. There are still a lot out there who think "fat free" means you can eat as much as you want and not get fat. Sugar is fat free.

And then there are those who just don't give a damn. It tastes good why deprive myself. And can you really judge them? I mean how many people say "it feels good so I do it". Having my ass brused for a weekend feels good to me, so I do it, but there are many out there who would tell me that's not healthy. *shurg*
 
What I’d be interested to know is why there’s so much negativity towards someone that’s heavy and what they’re eating habits are vs. say a smoker that goes through umpteen packs a day. Or the drinker that has to have 10 beers every day. Those peoples behavior is just as self destructive, the pattern and cause usually very similar and yet it’s so much more tolerated.

I used to work at a convenience store and the clerks could sell pack after pack of cigarettes to the same people, day after day without a thought, even if the customer was hacking up a lung in front of them, but see one heavy person buy a candy bar and a look of disdain would cross their face.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to me that's prejudice.
 
I think fat prejudice is one of the last ones that most tolerate or even enjoy. The PC police aren't on it as much. However, skinny people get it pretty bad too. The whole thing pisses me off.

I can't stand cig smoke, over drinking, or over much of anything for that matter. Moderation is my personal watch word.

Fury :rose:
 
Smokers are drug addicts. Pure and simple. The only difference between tobacco and crack is that crack gets you higher.

Obesity has tripled in this country in the last 25 years among children. I think the last thing we need is a fat person's "bill of rights." We're going to see a whole generation of people ending up on disability by the time they are 45 if nothing is done about it.
 
Some would say food was an addiction that you can't quit cold turkey.

I don't advocate being fat or certainly contributing to making children fat, which I see as a form of child abuse. Incidentally, I also see putting a child on a strict diet, constantly harping on their weight and such as that as a form of child abuse.

I agree the weight situation in this country is out of hand and getting worse.

I'm all for eating and living as healthy as you can stand to do but I'm also against being prejudiced or discourteous toward overweight people.

Fury :rose:
 
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