A weighty issue

[Evil_Geoff]

... What else can you say to someone so shallow?

How about:

"Bite me, ass-hat!"
"Oh yeah, right, lard-ass. Like a skinny bimbette would find your dumpy butt attractive."
"Your kidding, right? You think a seal would date a walrus?"
"Drop and give me 20, sub-boy!"

*chuckles*

And yes, I know those are rather rude. But you catch my drift. If you want to be nice about it, I suppose there are far more diplomatic ways to tell someone that their cranial node is well and truly inserted in their colo-rectal region...

 

[Cherrysweetdeal]

I think sometimes people could always stand to lose 5 lbs.... no matter how big they are that is a healthy drop in weight in your daily life. I have floated between 170 and 145 for the past 6 years.

Advertisements show the most unlikely models to represent the general population and there is a thing call photoshop with which they can alter the pictures.

 

[Etoile]

Advertisements show the most unlikely models to represent the general population and there is a thing call photoshop with which they can alter the pictures.

I once took away someone's baby that - she was VERY pregnant in a bridal shower group picture, and she wanted to look "normal" like everybody else in the pic, so I edited out her belly! It came out pretty good, gave her a very nice figure...and I'm not an artist!

 

[SpectreT]

How about:

"Bite me, ass-hat!"
"Oh yeah, right, lard-ass. Like a skinny bimbette would find your dumpy butt attractive."
"Your kidding, right? You think a seal would date a walrus?"
"Drop and give me 20, sub-boy!"

*chuckles*

And yes, I know those are rather rude. But you catch my drift. If you want to be nice about it, I suppose there are far more diplomatic ways to tell someone that their cranial node is well and truly inserted in their colo-rectal region...

...all of which reminds me, I want to start a fund to help those with Cranial-Rectal Juxtaposition, or CRJ. CRJ affects millions of people nation wide, and possibly up to a billion globally, though the pioneering research is done here in the US.

 

[ammre]

Adding my vote to the Ammre rocks crowd here. Wow, girl. I wish I had those kinds of moves!

I agree, Cutie, it's amazing how this thread has remained positive when we live in such a cynical place where people immediately attack. The thing that gets me the most about people in general, though, is the hypocrisy. You drive down the road and spot a really large guy driving a truck with a bumper sticker that says "no fat chicks".

I could stand to lose 15 pounds - or even just tone up, the weight isn't that big an issue as much as being a bit out of shape is. When I was doing the online dating thing, it would really get me when I would meet someone for coffee, see that he was pushing on the pudgy side with 25 or so extra pounds around his middle, and have him say that he was looking for someone 'smaller' (read=thinner) than I am. And when they look at me and say 'smaller', it's obvious what they're talking about, because I'm a pretty small person to begin with. My response? Well, good luck with that. What else can you say to someone so shallow?

There's TOTALLY a double standard. I mean jsut look at family sitcoms. If you go back...
fresh prince of bell air, huge man, little woman...
Family matters, huge man, little woman,
drew carey show, huge man, little woman
even cartoons... the simpsons, homer is infamiously fat, but look at how skinny marge is?
family guy too!

 

[FurryFury]

There's TOTALLY a double standard. I mean jsut look at family sitcoms. If you go back...
fresh prince of bell air, huge man, little woman...
Family matters, huge man, little woman,
drew carey show, huge man, little woman
even cartoons... the simpsons, homer is infamiously fat, but look at how skinny marge is?
family guy too!

Yeah but see all those skinny bitches are just waiting for those fat asses to die off and leave em money.

*joking*

Fury

 

[Exogenous]

Yeah but see all those skinny bitches are just waiting for those fat asses to die off and leave em money.

*joking*

Fury

LOL, well, there is that. Just depends on one's priorities, I suppose. Thank goodness money isn't everything, though!

 

[FurryFury]

LOL, well, there is that. Just depends on one's priorities, I suppose. Thank goodness money isn't everything, though!

Which is why they have a hunky "pool guy" or "personal trainer," right?

*giggles*

 

[Exogenous]

Which is why they have a hunky "pool guy" or "personal trainer," right?

*giggles*

Most definitely. I like your thinking.

 

[Cherrysweetdeal]

"Your kidding, right? You think a seal would date a walrus?"

Reminds me of a joke.

Why does a walrus go to a tupperware party?

Cause they like a tight seal... heh

 

[ammre]

Reminds me of a joke.

Why does a walrus go to a tupperware party?

Cause they like a tight seal... heh

Thank you.

I was thinking of something not-so-great, having a perticularly melloncholly and down night and i read that and while it was almost comforting to stay in my dark place i couldn't help but feel a smile creep across my face.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Thank you.

I was thinking of something not-so-great, having a perticularly melloncholly and down night and i read that and while it was almost comforting to stay in my dark place i couldn't help but feel a smile creep across my face.

*gives ammre a {{{{{HUG}}}}} just because*

 

[cfuhrer]

I have to admitt that I have not read the whole thread and I will later on, but I just wanted to attach the following link to a, in my opinion, very relavent essay on nerve.

http://www.nerve.com/personalessays/scott/bodyheat/

 

[Bandit58]

I've just started going to the gym - I want to lose 6kg (about 13lbs) before the wedding, and hopefully flatten and tone up my tummy and get stronger and fitter.

I've not done any exercise for nigh on 30 years. Gee it sounds bad when you read that! When I married at 19 I was 51kg/112lbs (I'm 5'8 tall). Two kids and quitting smoking later, at nearly 48 I'm now 75.8kg (167lbs). According to a site I visited, for my height and frame (I'm classed as having a small frame because my thumb and middle finger overlap when I grip my wrist) I should be 67kg (148lbs) but I think I'd look too thin if I tried to get to that! I'm aiming for 70kg (about 155lbs).

I've lost almost a pound in the first few days which I am happy about I'm getting used to the machines and am able to go longer and harder on them even after just a week. I'm doing squats, lunges and upper body weights (oh my thighs were killing me after the first time, I couldn't move for 2 days). I've been to a Pilates class and I'm going again, even though my tummy was so sore afterwards it hurt to cough and/or sneeze. I have a personal trainer who is helping me with technique and what to aim for. I call him my TrainerDom, because he's really pushing me and as a good little subbie I do everything I am told

I need to be fit and healthy to take care of Master Gil. I want to be able to fit into my jeans and skirts, and hopefully be able to go down a size and have clothes fit properly again. Right now I hover between size 14 and 16. I want to have strong tummy muscles, and a strong back which doesn't get sore now and again. I want to be more flexible (Master Gil is looking forward to that ) I have been feeling bad about myself for a while now and I'm hoping all this will help me feel better

 

[BeachGurl2]

I have to admitt that I have not read the whole thread and I will later on, but I just wanted to attach the following link to a, in my opinion, very relavent essay on nerve.

http://www.nerve.com/personalessays/scott/bodyheat/

Wow. That's a pretty powerful essay. Brought home a few images of the past for me as well. I went from a little pudgy at 15 to eating disorder at 16 (which I still struggle with today). And there was a huge difference between the way I was treated by boys before and after. College was the same - fluctuating between skinny and a little pudge depending on how much beer I consumed that month. Slow date months usually meant 5 or 10 pounds had to go. And it's not like I'm talking about a huge difference, either. When I hit college, I was 5' tall and barely tipped 100 pounds. I was a size 0-1. Of course, that was in the early 80s when very thin was in, but that's still no excuse. My larger friends had a much harder time finding dates for events than my smaller friends did. And that continued into my 20s until I got married. While I was married, the sex/no sex thing did continue being affected by my weight. If my weight went up, no sex. If my weight was down, sex. 10 years of marriage was like that. And even now, dating again, size matters. Funny how fat other people's comments can make you feel when you're wearing a size 8 or 10.

 

[BeachGurl2]

There's TOTALLY a double standard. I mean jsut look at family sitcoms. If you go back...
fresh prince of bell air, huge man, little woman...
Family matters, huge man, little woman,
drew carey show, huge man, little woman
even cartoons... the simpsons, homer is infamiously fat, but look at how skinny marge is?
family guy too!

Yep. The show with Jim Belushi (can't remember the name of it) and King of Queens, too. I'm sure there are others, I just don't watch TV anymore. The guys look like normal, average guys with a little extra weight, and the girls are very pretty model types. Real life rarely works that way, but if that's what they're holding out for, good luck with that.

 

[Cherrysweetdeal]

Thank you.

I was thinking of something not-so-great, having a perticularly melloncholly and down night and i read that and while it was almost comforting to stay in my dark place i couldn't help but feel a smile creep across my face.

I'm here to try to make people happy... or atleast I thought thats what subs did....

 

[FurryFury]

I thought about this article last night after I read it. I have to say I think it could make a steamy novel but as reality I don't buy it. It has many cliche's in it IMO. Most from a male seeming POV. I have to call bullshit on it. I accept I may be wrong but this is how it strikes me.

I have no problem with a girl having sex with tons of guys to validate herself. I too was driven to get close to men, not to feel physically attractive or powerful but emotionally attractive and "love." It was the closest thing to "love" I knew. I had no real model for what love was. I didn't often perform oral and certainly no other sex was done because I was terrified of anything beyond petting and shit. Note, not because I was skinny or had more moral fibre but because I was scared shitless okay? It was far more common for them to perform oral on me. They were oh so willing, and so dirty and usually, twice my age. *sighs*

I wasn't overweight then, but my body type wasn't typical. I was thin, very thin. Today people would assume that I was anorexic but I just had a high metabolism. Having a few empty years and babies fixed that shit right up! LOL.

Anyway it's just really hard for me to believe that a girl would always end up with cretins who would actually say something to the effect of, you're okay for a blow or a fuck but I'd never date you. Now I'm not saying that such never exist but to only run into those types, is hard for me to believe. I think many men are attracted to plumper women though they may be afraid to admit that to themselves or others. I knew a few that really go for that. They have ceased to struggle with it. Who says if you were fat I wouldn't fuck you? No 'cept ASS HOLES and liars!

I also don't believe a girl would do all these piercing's and like it rough just to put with worshipful "nice" sex later. I know she dumps a guy who is nice, but still. Either you are into it rough and like your piercing's or you don't, I'd think.

I don't like the crap about cigarettes and double work outs either.

I have NEVER had a guy tell me "let's slow down." What a crock. Who does that?

Who says thank you for last night, that was amazing if the girl is a sloppy passed out drunk???

What guy says to piercing's, hot but why??? How does that not fit the image of a hot young thing???

And I have NEVER EVER gotten off on watching myself have sex at times I thought I was fat or thin. Yuck!!! WTF???

Like I said, it's an interesting article but it just doesn't feel "real" to me. I don't buy it. If a chick really wrote it and it's an honest snapshot essay for her then she is pretty courageous. It just feels like dude fiction to me.

Fury

 

[JMohegan]

*BUMP*

Because this was a great thread, and the post quoted here is one for which I have immense respect.

Folks, excess weight _IS_ a concern. It's not a matter of "good" or "bad", it's not a value or moral judgement. I've been "big" all of my life. Thanks to a combination of habits, poor diet choices, and honestly, self-indulgence and laziness, at one point in my life (5 - 6 years ago) I was pushing around 300 pounds. I've lost lot of that weight (I hang in the 245 - 250 lb range consistently now) but not nearly enough.

I've had my heart attack and bypass surgery. The "wake up, numb-nuts!" has been heard. Don't get me wrong, I _LIKE_ big women too. My girl janey is not "petit" by any stretch. Together we are going to push back from the table a little more, exercise a little more, encourage one another with better eating habits, etc. I scared the daylights out of her. Me too. Neither one of us want to go through this again, and I wouldn't wish it upon even my worst enemy, let alone someone I would call a friend.

Being overweight doesn't mean you are weak, unfocussed, lazy, or a "bad person". It does mean that your body has to work harder than it should, and that extra work puts strains on the heart, lungs, digestive system, legs, joints, etc. I am not going to fuss at anyone about their size. But I will encourage everyone to work with their doctor and other health care professionals to work together to find a stable, healthy weight for your body.

I'm still here, I plan on being around for a while. *grin* And I want my girl and oher friends and family around too.

 

[the captians wench]

Just a little update (even tho this is probably not the best places) I've been fry and nugget free for a little more than 3 months, I'm holding stedy at 210, and I'm a size 15. I'm not going to make my goal of a size 10 by newyears, (not safely anyway) but I'm happy. Sorry for the blurt.

it's very interesting that you bring this up now to me as we've just added an amendment to our contract so to speak. I've always been heavy, at my smallest I was a size 10 and 175lbs, when I got married a combination of depression, PCOS, and sudden inactivity brought me to my heaviest some where in the range of size 24/26 and 350+lbs (I'm not sure the actual weight or size as I stopped using scales and stopped buying new clothes only wearing ones with stretch bands that bairly fit after reaching these points). After leaving that marriage, and at the same time getting involved in BDSM I lost well over 100lbs and am now fluctuating between 200 and 215 and am a small size 16. I was imbarrassed by my weight and actually met my Master because I was trying to boost my self esteme with posting pics. Which in it's self was probably a dangerous thing, but was the way I chose. My friends who were also introducing me to BDSM were also very helpful in that boost. There was just something in the way one of my friends would pull my head back by my hair and say something like "you're looking hot today wenchie" that sent chills up my spine and made me smile and blush. The more confidence I gained the more weight I lost, and the more comfortable I was with myself hince I was more comfortable in exploring other areas of myself.

I'm also hypoglycemic, which when I'm heavier sort of acts up more and has to be watched more closely with a stricter diet. But it's also something that has to be watched while in play. What may look like I'm subbing out could really be my sugar bottoming out which is not good and means I need a peanutbutter and oj break to get me back up. This is something all my play partners are aware of, and one reason I am usually asked if I've eaten before play. That question used to bother me when my self esteme was not great, but I tried then and now know it's one of looking out for me and not a comment on my weight.

How ever, after 2 years of a diet change where I was not eating fried foods more than once a week, I got into a bad habbit (just in the past 2 months) of eating fries and chicken nuggets at work. I tried to break this habbit myself, but just couldn't seem to kick it and as I watched the scale climb up from 200 to 215 to 220 I decided I needed to do something. At first I just couldn't come up with how I could stop this snacking. Then one night it hit me. Master has a responcibility to take care of me and to help me grow in any way he/we see is nessisary. If I'm snacking, and I know it's affecting my over all health, and wish to stop, he should be more than willing to help me. So one night I told him about the habbit and he was more than willing to help me break it. So I wrote up an email as I am always required to do when we agree to some new play or punishment, and other than one incident it's working.

He did make a comment that made me feel good in a weird way, "I just never thought you wanted to be skinny is all". *giggles* We laughed about that, but it's made me think. I have ran into a few guys who wanted to change my appearance one way or the other, and tried to force it upon me. With this comment, it made me realize, yes he would enjoy his little slut in a smaller size, but if I was happy then he was happy. The minute that it became clear to him that I wasn't happy with it, he took action, without hesitation. And I realized, the reason I'm so confident now, the reason I'm not asshamed to post my numbers, is because of his love and suport of me no matter what shape or size I am. Something along the lines of because I know he'll love me no matter how I look, I want to look my best for him. And because he's always incouraging of me, I always feel I look my best for him.

I hope I've made some since as it's 3am here and I just sort of started rambling on.

 

[Bandit58]

I've just started going to the gym - I want to lose 6kg (about 13lbs) before the wedding, and hopefully flatten and tone up my tummy and get stronger and fitter.

I've not done any exercise for nigh on 30 years. Gee it sounds bad when you read that! When I married at 19 I was 51kg/112lbs (I'm 5'8 tall). Two kids and quitting smoking later, at nearly 48 I'm now 75.8kg (167lbs). According to a site I visited, for my height and frame (I'm classed as having a small frame because my thumb and middle finger overlap when I grip my wrist) I should be 67kg (148lbs) but I think I'd look too thin if I tried to get to that! I'm aiming for 70kg (about 155lbs).

I've lost almost a pound in the first few days which I am happy about I'm getting used to the machines and am able to go longer and harder on them even after just a week. I'm doing squats, lunges and upper body weights (oh my thighs were killing me after the first time, I couldn't move for 2 days). I've been to a Pilates class and I'm going again, even though my tummy was so sore afterwards it hurt to cough and/or sneeze. I have a personal trainer who is helping me with technique and what to aim for. I call him my TrainerDom, because he's really pushing me and as a good little subbie I do everything I am told

I need to be fit and healthy to take care of Master Gil. I want to be able to fit into my jeans and skirts, and hopefully be able to go down a size and have clothes fit properly again. Right now I hover between size 14 and 16. I want to have strong tummy muscles, and a strong back which doesn't get sore now and again. I want to be more flexible (Master Gil is looking forward to that ) I have been feeling bad about myself for a while now and I'm hoping all this will help me feel better

I just weighed myself this morning. I'm down to 72.6 kg (159lbs). I'm a lot fitter and I feel so much better about myself My tummy is flatter and my back no longer hurts at all. I have more tone and shape to my legs and arms. All this in about 3 months

 

[A Desert Rose]

I just weighed myself this morning. I'm down to 72.6 kg (159lbs). I'm a lot fitter and I feel so much better about myself My tummy is flatter and my back no longer hurts at all. I have more tone and shape to my legs and arms. All this in about 3 months

Amazing what a little weight loss can do just for your joints.

Good on ya, Bandit. Keep it up!!!

 

[Bandit58]

Amazing what a little weight loss can do just for your joints.

Good on ya, Bandit. Keep it up!!!

Thanks ADR I intend to, I'm actually enjoying working out which has surprised me. It's a great stress buster, and I have a new trainer now (cute petite girl ) who mixes things up and makes it fun. We do boxing sometimes which I'm coming to love and might take a class if one comes up at a convenient time lol

 

[Chicklet]

Just a little update (even tho this is probably not the best places) I've been fry and nugget free for a little more than 3 months, I'm holding stedy at 210, and I'm a size 15. I'm not going to make my goal of a size 10 by newyears, (not safely anyway) but I'm happy. Sorry for the blurt.

Congratulations.

I think this is a fine place to post that little blurt.

 

[Etoile]

I lost almost 30 pounds in eight months, from 187 to 160, but I haven't lost any more in the past three months! I'm staying on my fancy diet, though, and I'm maintaining rather than gaining, so I can't complain too much. I'll be off the diet this weekend because I'm visiting Daddy and I didn't want to drag along my suitcase full of food, but for the most part I have been being mostly good.