A Virgin Fetish

[NASCARaddicted]

well, I guess, this whole virgin stuff goes back to my teenage days.

Back then, I wanted that my "first time" would be with a virgin.

 

[loveyamon]

I've heard that men who prefer virgins , are the ones that can't handle criticism and suggestion. Hmmmmmm.

 

[Guest]

Re: No hymen does NOT mean you have had sex...

If a woman is very active, she can gradually (or suddenly...ouch) tear her hymen. The presence of one would probably indicate a virgin, I guess. But not having one just means that you don't have one there any longer. A really athletic woman or even someone who can use tampons might not have a hymen. So you can't use that solely as a basis for pinpointing a virgin.

Bingo! By the time I had vaginal intercourse I had no hymen. I was "sexually active" in the sense of masturbation, and "foreplay" with guys I dated. Also, I started having periods from an early age. By the time slim "teen" tampons came around it was a Godsend.

 

[HzDomme]

Good sex?

And on the other hand, some women perform oral and anal sex but no vaginal sex - so their hymen remains intact. I once heard a story about a hooker, who has a lot of anal and oral sex, but she never had vaginal sex - so she calls herself a virgin.

IMHO, a woman who had no sex at all (I mean, no oral, anal or vaginal sex) is a virgin, no matter if her hymen is intact or not.
But if she has oral or anal sex, then she ain't a virgin anymore, even though her hymen is still intact.

For me, virginity is mainly something in the head, not in the pussy.

We once were having a discussion with our 15 yr old about an Oprah show that said that many teenagers don't consider oral sex to be "sex."
We asked her "When are you no longer virgin?"
She replied "After you have sex?."
We asked "What kind of sex?"
She replied "Good sex?"

 

[SlickTony]

I've heard that men who prefer virgins , are the ones that can't handle criticism and suggestion. Hmmmmmm.

Having been deflowered--and after 32 years I still remember how much it hurt--by a man who made much of the fact that I was a virgin, I think that pretty much says it all.

Women are people. Not cars.

 

[Monazwx]

Re: Good sex?

We once were having a discussion with our 15 yr old about an Oprah show that said that many teenagers don't consider oral sex to be "sex."
We asked her "When are you no longer virgin?"
She replied "After you have sex?."
We asked "What kind of sex?"
She replied "Good sex?"

Yep, good sex is all that matters.

 

[DuckLover]

Re: Good sex?

We once were having a discussion with our 15 yr old about an Oprah show that said that many teenagers don't consider oral sex to be "sex."
We asked her "When are you no longer virgin?"
She replied "After you have sex?."
We asked "What kind of sex?"
She replied "Good sex?"

LOL Great answer! Seriously though, I've met people who define the loss of their virginity differently. To paraphrase Mona (BTW- I LOVE your signature!), "Virginity is a state of mind." For these people their virginity wasn't lost the first time a penis entered a vagina, it happened the first time they had meaningful sex, or better yet, the first time they made love. I think this kind of alternate definition is particularly apt for anyone who has suffered abuse, assault, or intercourse without understanding what sex is (as in some teens).

 

[NASCARaddicted]

Re: Re: Good sex?

LOL Great answer! Seriously though, I've met people who define the loss of their virginity differently. To paraphrase Mona (BTW- I LOVE your signature!), "Virginity is a state of mind." For these people their virginity wasn't lost the first time a penis entered a vagina, it happened the first time they had meaningful sex, or better yet, the first time they made love. I think this kind of alternate definition is particularly apt for anyone who has suffered abuse, assault, or intercourse without understanding what sex is (as in some teens).

Just to throw that in: Some (religious) girls have anal intercourse and still claim that they are virgins.
So, they can marry as a virgin - but as I said, in my eyes, this girls ain't virgins. So, once you had either vaginal or anal sex, you are no longer a virgin IMHO. However, I am still not sure how I should think about oral sex. But unlike some teenagers, I consider that a blowjob is "sex"

By the way: I once saw a report in a porn mag (but I don't know if it was true). There was a hooker who only had anal and oral sex. Her pussy was still virgin. The hooker said: She wanted to marry as a virgin ...... a virgin hooker ????

 

[CantSayNo]

Well, now you've got me wondering something. Do you have flesh eating vision? Because just by looking at pussy, you cannot tell if it's virgin pussy or not. You can't see the hymen unless you stick a probe up there...soooo...what gives?

~CantSayNo~

 

[Guest]

 

[CantSayNo]

LMFAO Emerald. Yeah....I dunno how tampons can break your hymen...but a dick can't...unless...you have a toddler dick? *frown*

~CantSayNo~

 

[confused20]

different view

Dunno why i feel the need to respond but here goes LOL

As an actual virgin...which is more of a curse then anything else...I have this hang up about wanting my first time with "penetration" to be with a real live penis...attatched to a real person.
Many of my friends think this is ridiculous and just wonder why the hell I don't just get a vibe or other toy.

Anyone else think it strange that I don't want my first time to be with a peice of plastic?

(for the curious...i have no hymen...been riding horses all my life and it is long since gone...hooray!)

 

[NASCARaddicted]

Re: different view

Dunno why i feel the need to respond but here goes LOL

As an actual virgin...which is more of a curse then anything else...I have this hang up about wanting my first time with "penetration" to be with a real live penis...attatched to a real person.
Many of my friends think this is ridiculous and just wonder why the hell I don't just get a vibe or other toy.

Anyone else think it strange that I don't want my first time to be with a peice of plastic?

(for the curious...i have no hymen...been riding horses all my life and it is long since gone...hooray!)

No, I don't think that it's strange. Especially the first time should be something special, and I think you should do it with someone who really loves you (and you should love him). Also, don't forget: A penis is warm, it moves differently then a vibrator, and in the end he can cum into you ....

Also, I think there is something similar with boys. I mean, a boy can have his first time with a hooker. Sure, she has much experience, but the real feelings are missing ....

So, both times, it is similar. The love is missing .....


But confused20 I also want to add: Maybe it's just me, but if you use a vibrator, I wouldn't call it "sex". For me, a vibrator is just for masturbation. It's an object that YOU push into YOUR pussy. It takes (at least) 2 people to have sex. And it may sound strange, but imagine, one day, your open minded daughter asks you: "How was your first time, what was the name of the guy ?" ... then you can tell her: "I can't remember his name, but he used many batteries ...."

And I really have to say, that I don't understand your friends who tell you to do it with a vibrator ....

 

[virginleo20]

well this is not an other one of my dumass jokes.....

Id just like to say that....
Im a "virgin" and i do not even see my self as being able to touch a woman whom has already slept with an other.
To me when i think about a possible relationship with such a woman I only see it as ending because of a growing amount of bitterness over "not having had been worth waiting for".
To me any such relationship is "once for life" and should not be taken lightly. That is also a filosophy i look for in any potentieal romatic interest....
this in adition to personality etc compatibility issues makes it impossible to meet anyone.

Since I have chosen to wait for that one special person I feel that it is only fair that the other person has also made the choice of waiting.


By the way has noone ever heard of the saying...
"when you sleep with someone you are sleeping with everyone they have ever slept with... and so on..."



But then again what do I know women never have been particularly nice to me... even back in the day when i did not care about the "Virginity issue".


thoughts of an abused youth... hoping to be treated as a human being.

 

[NASCARaddicted]

Re: Re: different view

But confused20 I also want to add: Maybe it's just me, but if you use a vibrator, I wouldn't call it "sex". For me, a vibrator is just for masturbation. It's an object that YOU push into YOUR pussy. It takes (at least) 2 people to have sex. And it may sound strange, but imagine, one day, your open minded daughter asks you: "How was your first time, what was the name of the guy ?" ... then you can tell her: "I can't remember his name, but he used many batteries ...."

And I really have to say, that I don't understand your friends who tell you to do it with a vibrator ....

Yeah, I quote myself. That's because I want to add something:

If you are a lesbian or bi-sexual woman, and you have your first time with another woman, using a dildo, it's something different. If your girlfriend deflowers you (even though your hymen is already broken while horseriding). But as I said: If you do it on your own, it's no sex, just masturbation. There has to be another person.

Otherwise - my right "deflowered" me when I was like 11 or 12 ....

Masturbation ain't sex, it's just masturbation ....

 

[Cakegirl]

I lost my virginity to a man who was obsessed with virgin pussy. But for him, it was more about staking a claim in uncharted territory than in actually introducing virgins to lovemaking... In short, it sucked for me. I lost my 'other' virginity - that one mentioned above as 'good sex' much, much later, and wish I'd waited until that guy had come along... Ah, 20/20 hindsight...
~Cakegirl

 

[Hairgrip]

i lost mine to a chap who was a complete waste of space - he wouldn't go lower than my breasts unless it was with his itty bitty penis... how precious is that? he didn't like the idea... he loved bjs however, couldn't get enough, never refused those. i was his second sexual partner, his experience, though limited, was substantially greater than mine.
by contrast my current partner was a virgin, i deflowered him on our first date. he is a completely unselfish lover, he makes love to me, with me, never for himself alone. he enjoys giving as much as taking. he had no sexual experience, save a former girlfriend's hand job, prior to me.
for me sex is a spiritual and mental meeting of minds as much as a meeting of sexual parts. he has no issue that i had slept with someone else before him - i do, as far as i am concerned i was effectively a virgin before we got together. he connects with me in every possible way. that he was a virgin was never an issue.
virginity is religiously held as a sacred thing, it is now more of a personal thing. i was never ashamed of it whilst i had it, and am proactive to encourage my younger siblings to be careful and think before they make it with the wrong person.
i would argue that a man who seeks 'virgin pussy' is seeking a dream. i am as tight, if not tighter now that i used to be, love making improves with positive experience.
furthermore... has anyone heard this joke?
a guy walks into a brothel, turns to the desk girl and asks for the best whore in the house. he goes up to room 9 and starts to fuck... he emerges 5 mins later, goes to the front desk and says 'honey that was horrific, she was shit, have you got anything better?' so she sends him to room 11. he once again returns after just 5 mins. 'you think people will pay for that?! think again. i'm gonna give you one last chance to get me a quality lay'.
the desk girl thinks hard and says, 'ok sir, try room 13, please take this with you however'. she hands him a black condom.
he returns half an hour later. 'fucking hell! that was the best sex that i have ever had' he declares. he pays the full wack, and a 50% tip, as he leaves he turns back to the desk girl and says 'just one thing, why the black condom?'
'well you have some respect for the dead, sir'

 

[SlickTony]

I don't necessarily believe that masturbation isn't sex. If young people could be convinced that masturbation is sex for one, as I read it described in the allaboutsex website, kids would get into less trouble having sex with other people before they were ready for it, and they might be better at it when the finally did.

 

[SexySparkles]

No, it just means the partner had a very little dick?

Not true. I was always very active throughout my life. When you're active, the hymen just naturally stretches. It becomes tougher.

I had had sex twice, and was raped once... And mine was still pefectly fine. I found out when I was having my exam for the rape. He said that it's not common, but it does happen when girls are active. It takes a LOT more to actually tear it then.

 

[SlickTony]

Mine simply got torn up. Don't miss it, what there is left of it. It is amazing to me, how this little scrap of flesh has had such a farrago of superstition and fuss and bother around it.

 

[MagicFingers]

Nascar

A porn company was searching for an 18 year old virgin (that was somewhere in a poor, eastern state like Poland or Russia). They offered her like $5000 or something like that, if they could videotape, how she was deflowered by a porn actor.

...This is the cover of the DVD box. On the lower right corner, you can see her intact pussy. Maybe I will do some more screenshots of the examination.


Oh, by the way: I remember there was a riddle in a porn mag. They showed pictures of 4 different pussies (but just from the outside, no spread pussy lips) and you had to guess, which of this pussies was the one of a virgin ....

Thanks for the certified virgin. Here in Calif, most of them are very illegal, I'm sure. It is a sexy thought to be the first with someone, but the actual act... well, I'd rather have 'sperience, as DW would say.

Great quote by Dave Marcis, and an interesting choice of drivers/cars to be a fan of. Only a TRUE fan would pick him. I know because I rooted for him about 30 years too. PM me sometime for more Nascar chat.