A mood question

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

LMAO

Lessee, I have uh 20+ years of schooling so you should PM me for all your educational questions. I have no certification in education but I assure you school was awful at times.

SAM? Whats your model for sanity?

Here's mine. Shit happens or doesn't happen, and you deal with it. You don't wallow in the mire, dont use challenges as excuses or career moves, and don't use adversity as a club to smack your dog. As we say in the bizness, troubles aren't coupons you collect and redeem for gifts like murder or divorce or adultery. If you got a headache, the kids still gotta be fed.

MOOD IN WRITING
Its a condition that's chronic. If pols are stealing every dime you make, and niggers are ruining your kids education, and China is destroying the air, and Obama steps on his dick every 15 minutes, the mood is depressing. But you might get laid or get a sweet check from the IRS, to lift your spirits.

 

[Hypoxia]

Now that the teamwork challenge is over I have found that there is now something missing each day. I really enjoyed working with my partner.

My tag-team partner disappeared after a couple weeks with no explanation. My first editor vanished even faster. A writer I recently edited didn't bother to send a thank-you. My current editee is at least grateful and communicative, if not skillful. But I have not had good experiences with collaborations here, so far. Mood: I'm not bitter, not at all.

Do my mood swings influence my writing, the characters, the storylines? I'm not sure. As mentioned above, if I'm down, I'm more likely not to write fiction, just forum rants. If I'm too bummed to write but not totally bummed, I may edit. That's not too distracting. Many of my storylines tend to be dark and complex anyway (especially the rejected ones), so my feeling 'down' doesn't alter them much.

And if I'm euphoric, my writing sucks. Better not be TOO happy, hey?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My tag-team partner disappeared after a couple weeks with no explanation. My first editor vanished even faster. A writer I recently edited didn't bother to send a thank-you. My current editee is at least grateful and communicative, if not skillful. But I have not had good experiences with collaborations here, so far. Mood: I'm not bitter, not at all.

Do my mood swings influence my writing, the characters, the storylines? I'm not sure. As mentioned above, if I'm down, I'm more likely not to write fiction, just forum rants. If I'm too bummed to write but not totally bummed, I may edit. That's not too distracting. Many of my storylines tend to be dark and complex anyway (especially the rejected ones), so my feeling 'down' doesn't alter them much.

And if I'm euphoric, my writing sucks. Better not be TOO happy, hey?

Euphoria isn't a mood, its a transient emotional reaction.

 

[Bert_Fegg]

OK, I have to be somewhat revealing of myself to set the tone for the question. I believe I suffer from depression. Most days I am fine, others it is a struggle to keep a gun out of my mouth. I'm not medicated, but I avoid alcohol when I know a down time is at hand. But that's not what I'm asking about.

My question is how do the rest of you keep you mood from changing your characters' actions. I thought I had a handle on that until I started reading my current piece. My character ebbs and flows like I have and I've had to re write huge chunks to even him out. Any suggestions?

I can't offer the advice you seek because I haven't been doing this long enough to have found a way to deal with it. Still, I can say this - your belief is well founded, I would say you definitely suffer from depression.

'Lee said everything I would have done, only better. The only thing I'd add is that writing about what's in my mind always helps me, and I never got on with antidepressants either - they work, but I found although I wasn't sinking into despair the same way, I wasn't feeling much joy either, so I stopped. So far I've resisted the urge to top myself, but I have an emergency suicide note in the works just in case

I have found that it helps to have a vindictive ex that you begrudge the pleasure of reading your obituary.

Anyway, I hope you find a way to work around it, or with it.

I couldn't make much sense out of JBJ's comment, but to him I'd say this:

Just imagine for a second that you have an agonising, terminal and highly debilitating illness. meds exist to alleviate the pain but you choose not to take them. After a year of unrelenting suffering, your house catches fire and you're unable to get out, you fall to the floor, choking on smoke and fumes until the searing heat of the fire completely overwhelms the pain of your illness.

I don't have a point to make here, it's just a nice thought

 

[StrangeLife]

I'd say it's simply not possible to decouple your stories from your mood. At least it isn't for me. I could not write a light hearted goof-piece if I was in a broody or sad place for instance. There is too much of myself in my characters for that.

My advice would be to write on anyway but delay submission till you're feeling better. Then you have the opportunity to read your own story with fresh eyes later on, and decide whether the characters seem too influenced by your own situation.

Oh - and I would take PatientLee's advice to heart. Depression can be very debilitating but it also happens to be one of the easiest psychological disorders to cure successfully. So don't walk but run to your GP and get it fixed. It's a basically chemical imbalance, so treating it with chemicals makes perfect sense...

 

[oggbashan]

Depression isn't a mood. It is an illness, one that is very difficult to treat by yourself.

Would you set your own broken arm? If you THINK you have depression, seek professional medical help. Even doing that little about it, recognising that you need help, can reduce the impact of depression.

You might not need medication. You could benefit from other forms of treatment.

As far as mood affects me personally? That's bizarre. I write my lightest stories when I'm feeling like shit; my darkest when I'm happy and content. Odd.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I can't offer the advice you seek because I haven't been doing this long enough to have found a way to deal with it. Still, I can say this - your belief is well founded, I would say you definitely suffer from depression.

'Lee said everything I would have done, only better. The only thing I'd add is that writing about what's in my mind always helps me, and I never got on with antidepressants either - they work, but I found although I wasn't sinking into despair the same way, I wasn't feeling much joy either, so I stopped. So far I've resisted the urge to top myself, but I have an emergency suicide note in the works just in case

I have found that it helps to have a vindictive ex that you begrudge the pleasure of reading your obituary.

Anyway, I hope you find a way to work around it, or with it.

I couldn't make much sense out of JBJ's comment, but to him I'd say this:

Just imagine for a second that you have an agonising, terminal and highly debilitating illness. meds exist to alleviate the pain but you choose not to take them. After a year of unrelenting suffering, your house catches fire and you're unable to get out, you fall to the floor, choking on smoke and fumes until the searing heat of the fire completely overwhelms the pain of your illness.

I don't have a point to make here, it's just a nice thought

Bert? Do some reading about loose associations before you unleash them.

http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=8022

 

[Zeb_Carter]

My tag-team partner disappeared after a couple weeks with no explanation. My first editor vanished even faster. A writer I recently edited didn't bother to send a thank-you. My current editee is at least grateful and communicative, if not skillful. But I have not had good experiences with collaborations here, so far. Mood: I'm not bitter, not at all.

Do my mood swings influence my writing, the characters, the storylines? I'm not sure. As mentioned above, if I'm down, I'm more likely not to write fiction, just forum rants. If I'm too bummed to write but not totally bummed, I may edit. That's not too distracting. Many of my storylines tend to be dark and complex anyway (especially the rejected ones), so my feeling 'down' doesn't alter them much.

And if I'm euphoric, my writing sucks. Better not be TOO happy, hey?

Yes, I have had that experience before. I guess this time I was just partnered with a good person.

I try not to let my depression show in my writing. I don't know why, but I like to think that live is not dark and dreary.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

May I ask a serious question(s) to any/all of those who have ever mulled deeply over killing themselves - is there nothing at all that could happen to you from out of left field, say, at THAT time, which could make the condition and the 'status' either change or more bearable?

If you really at that precise moment were notified (for real) that you had won a big lottery, for instance, would living with the shadowed feelings start to turn around in a more positive direction because of the sudden increase in viable options and choices?

In other words, could real material positive changes in circumstances begin to alter your mood?

And, how do you view other people during those times of deep depression? Do you only think about the people you already know, and do you perceive the entire world of the human race as not capable of providing any uplifting input because of recent or previous experiences with people that you do know?

In your view, does the brain itself start to close off the potential for possibilities...?

But, in a more rational moment, do such possibilities actually exist as potentials?

I recall back in the Eighties when I was in an area of the financial businesses, and I witnessed (well, not ACTUALLY WITNESSED!) people I knew and knew of, really did go off and kill themselves not long after markets collapsed - I clearly remember at the time noting that some of these people would go round and round and round the same social circle, obviously without any emotional reward for doing this, and they would do it at increased speed, and then, one day, everything must have caved in for them.

My own conclusion is that one might well consider not investing so much underlying expectation in those - no matter who they are - if they are an emotional energetic detractive force. I think it's okay - allowable - that people sometimes ARE detractive; but not okay for them to commandeer, or to have commandeered the entirety of one's attention and emotional energy.

In business you have to be particularly aware that there are those certain types - and they might regularly be quite well off too - but they are very very vampiric and totally incapable of 'equivalent giving' as it were. And I have seen people become very drained by this - it happens to lawyers with a limited number of demanding and wealthy clients, and accountants too.

I don't know a single successful, depressive sports coach. These people surround themselves with uplifting personalities and are always targeting the sometimes ridiculously favourable outcome for themselves and those around them. Sure they take it in small bites sometimes, but they tend to get large results eventually.

If things are going against you for real, and you are having a long long long run of bad outcomes, it's not irrational to feel bad. Feeling bad is quite rational. Feeling nothing at all appears to be what many depressed people talk about - and yet, I believed I have noticed a connection between social economics and people's frame of mind. Right now I know a multi millionaire who is a long way down the road to total depression and it is ALL, entirely his own doing. He met Richard Branson, he wanted to have what Richard Branson appears to have, he wants to be 'like' Richard Branson, and he has no comprehension of the difficulties Branson may have had to go through to get where he is today. This guy has had a hundred million dollars and he is down to thirty million.

Why does he 'have problems?' My answer is that he believes he does have problems. And that belief is quite real. The belief is real. But the reality of it is not.

Do those who have felt seriously depressed have problems? What are they or what have those been? Are the problems outweighing the possibilities for solutions?

When someone can show me a legal, prescribed drug that can enflame a person's powers of imagination, then I will take greater note of the use of those medicines.

Imagination, is the only thing I know of, that can write down on an empty slate for you, things that appear impossible to a 'realistic' mind. But in real life, all the successful people I know, got there because they had a dream. Often a dream that no one else had the guts (or the folly) to have.

No drug that I know of, can give you an insight into 'the impossible dream.'

The 'impossible dream,' on the other hand, is the only one worth to have come true for you. Chasing the impossible dream, is about transforming ideas into action. Not chasing it, is an act of stupid idleness and ought not be confused or excused with the word 'depression.' I know depressives who work diligently on the chase. Correction, I knew them. None of them stayed depressed or unsuccessful.

Hey depressed person. What is your impossible dream? Do you have one? If you don't, then that is where you are in greatest poverty. That is the thing you lack most of all. That is the thing you actually lack.

Who told you, that you are not entitled to an impossible dream of your own?

Did you tell yourself that?

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Have... an impossible... dream.

 

[patientlee]

I think there's a big difference between killing yourself because you can't face the real circumstances in your life and killing yourself because depression has altered your view of your circumstances.

If you lost all of your money, that's real and it's bad. It's easier for that person to end his life than to fix the bad circumstances.

If you're depressed, you see circumstances of your life through a cloudy lens. You think things are bad when they're not. You can't see good things that are there. Maybe a windfall would give you some temporary hope that the badness you see will improve, but it doesn't necessarily clear that lens.

 

[49greg]

I agree with everyone that advises you to get help. I assume everyone has mood swings, I do, but obviously not as serious as yours.

The advice to use your darker moods to work on darker stories is great. I think I've been doing that without realizing it. I rarely work on one story at a time, and the choice of which story to work on is an indication my mood.

I've gotten a lot more level since we got a dog. It was my wife's idea, the primary reason is for me to exercise by walking the pup. He needs it, and I do it. I must care more about his well-being than mine. I've taken inches off my waist, but the really good side effect is that I am more upbeat and positive. A 40 minute walk changes my mood upward every time. Not only that, but I get a lot of ideas and work out plot lines and dialog while walking.

 

[patientlee]

I realized I was depressed when I saw the old Zoloft commercials. When I saw them, I said to myself, "What the heck makes me so special that my funk is clinical depression?"

I also used to think that I deserved to feel that way because of something I did or said (and most of the time, I hadn't said or done anything wrong).

For me, it's the brain chemicals. It has nothing to do with circumstances or the future or whom I'm with or what I do.

I'm not saying that meds are the only way to affect brain chemicals. I went on a weekend retreat once. I felt so euphoric after that, the depression that I had felt for months was beaten into submission.

May I ask a serious question(s) to any/all of those who have ever mulled deeply over killing themselves - is there nothing at all that could happen to you from out of left field, say, at THAT time, which could make the condition and the 'status' either change or more bearable?

If you really at that precise moment were notified (for real) that you had won a big lottery, for instance, would living with the shadowed feelings start to turn around in a more positive direction because of the sudden increase in viable options and choices?

In other words, could real material positive changes in circumstances begin to alter your mood?

And, how do you view other people during those times of deep depression? Do you only think about the people you already know, and do you perceive the entire world of the human race as not capable of providing any uplifting input because of recent or previous experiences with people that you do know?

In your view, does the brain itself start to close off the potential for possibilities...?

But, in a more rational moment, do such possibilities actually exist as potentials?

I recall back in the Eighties when I was in an area of the financial businesses, and I witnessed (well, not ACTUALLY WITNESSED!) people I knew and knew of, really did go off and kill themselves not long after markets collapsed - I clearly remember at the time noting that some of these people would go round and round and round the same social circle, obviously without any emotional reward for doing this, and they would do it at increased speed, and then, one day, everything must have caved in for them.

My own conclusion is that one might well consider not investing so much underlying expectation in those - no matter who they are - if they are an emotional energetic detractive force. I think it's okay - allowable - that people sometimes ARE detractive; but not okay for them to commandeer, or to have commandeered the entirety of one's attention and emotional energy.

In business you have to be particularly aware that there are those certain types - and they might regularly be quite well off too - but they are very very vampiric and totally incapable of 'equivalent giving' as it were. And I have seen people become very drained by this - it happens to lawyers with a limited number of demanding and wealthy clients, and accountants too.

I don't know a single successful, depressive sports coach. These people surround themselves with uplifting personalities and are always targeting the sometimes ridiculously favourable outcome for themselves and those around them. Sure they take it in small bites sometimes, but they tend to get large results eventually.

If things are going against you for real, and you are having a long long long run of bad outcomes, it's not irrational to feel bad. Feeling bad is quite rational. Feeling nothing at all appears to be what many depressed people talk about - and yet, I believed I have noticed a connection between social economics and people's frame of mind. Right now I know a multi millionaire who is a long way down the road to total depression and it is ALL, entirely his own doing. He met Richard Branson, he wanted to have what Richard Branson appears to have, he wants to be 'like' Richard Branson, and he has no comprehension of the difficulties Branson may have had to go through to get where he is today. This guy has had a hundred million dollars and he is down to thirty million.

Why does he 'have problems?' My answer is that he believes he does have problems. And that belief is quite real. The belief is real. But the reality of it is not.

Do those who have felt seriously depressed have problems? What are they or what have those been? Are the problems outweighing the possibilities for solutions?

When someone can show me a legal, prescribed drug that can enflame a person's powers of imagination, then I will take greater note of the use of those medicines.

Imagination, is the only thing I know of, that can write down on an empty slate for you, things that appear impossible to a 'realistic' mind. But in real life, all the successful people I know, got there because they had a dream. Often a dream that no one else had the guts (or the folly) to have.

No drug that I know of, can give you an insight into 'the impossible dream.'

The 'impossible dream,' on the other hand, is the only one worth to have come true for you. Chasing the impossible dream, is about transforming ideas into action. Not chasing it, is an act of stupid idleness and ought not be confused or excused with the word 'depression.' I know depressives who work diligently on the chase. Correction, I knew them. None of them stayed depressed or unsuccessful.

Hey depressed person. What is your impossible dream? Do you have one? If you don't, then that is where you are in greatest poverty. That is the thing you lack most of all. That is the thing you actually lack.

Who told you, that you are not entitled to an impossible dream of your own?

Did you tell yourself that?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

May I ask a serious question(s) to any/all of those who have ever mulled deeply over killing themselves - is there nothing at all that could happen to you from out of left field, say, at THAT time, which could make the condition and the 'status' either change or more bearable?

If you really at that precise moment were notified (for real) that you had won a big lottery, for instance, would living with the shadowed feelings start to turn around in a more positive direction because of the sudden increase in viable options and choices?

In other words, could real material positive changes in circumstances begin to alter your mood?

And, how do you view other people during those times of deep depression? Do you only think about the people you already know, and do you perceive the entire world of the human race as not capable of providing any uplifting input because of recent or previous experiences with people that you do know?

In your view, does the brain itself start to close off the potential for possibilities...?

But, in a more rational moment, do such possibilities actually exist as potentials?

I recall back in the Eighties when I was in an area of the financial businesses, and I witnessed (well, not ACTUALLY WITNESSED!) people I knew and knew of, really did go off and kill themselves not long after markets collapsed - I clearly remember at the time noting that some of these people would go round and round and round the same social circle, obviously without any emotional reward for doing this, and they would do it at increased speed, and then, one day, everything must have caved in for them.

My own conclusion is that one might well consider not investing so much underlying expectation in those - no matter who they are - if they are an emotional energetic detractive force. I think it's okay - allowable - that people sometimes ARE detractive; but not okay for them to commandeer, or to have commandeered the entirety of one's attention and emotional energy.

In business you have to be particularly aware that there are those certain types - and they might regularly be quite well off too - but they are very very vampiric and totally incapable of 'equivalent giving' as it were. And I have seen people become very drained by this - it happens to lawyers with a limited number of demanding and wealthy clients, and accountants too.

I don't know a single successful, depressive sports coach. These people surround themselves with uplifting personalities and are always targeting the sometimes ridiculously favourable outcome for themselves and those around them. Sure they take it in small bites sometimes, but they tend to get large results eventually.

If things are going against you for real, and you are having a long long long run of bad outcomes, it's not irrational to feel bad. Feeling bad is quite rational. Feeling nothing at all appears to be what many depressed people talk about - and yet, I believed I have noticed a connection between social economics and people's frame of mind. Right now I know a multi millionaire who is a long way down the road to total depression and it is ALL, entirely his own doing. He met Richard Branson, he wanted to have what Richard Branson appears to have, he wants to be 'like' Richard Branson, and he has no comprehension of the difficulties Branson may have had to go through to get where he is today. This guy has had a hundred million dollars and he is down to thirty million.

Why does he 'have problems?' My answer is that he believes he does have problems. And that belief is quite real. The belief is real. But the reality of it is not.

Do those who have felt seriously depressed have problems? What are they or what have those been? Are the problems outweighing the possibilities for solutions?

When someone can show me a legal, prescribed drug that can enflame a person's powers of imagination, then I will take greater note of the use of those medicines.

Imagination, is the only thing I know of, that can write down on an empty slate for you, things that appear impossible to a 'realistic' mind. But in real life, all the successful people I know, got there because they had a dream. Often a dream that no one else had the guts (or the folly) to have.

No drug that I know of, can give you an insight into 'the impossible dream.'

The 'impossible dream,' on the other hand, is the only one worth to have come true for you. Chasing the impossible dream, is about transforming ideas into action. Not chasing it, is an act of stupid idleness and ought not be confused or excused with the word 'depression.' I know depressives who work diligently on the chase. Correction, I knew them. None of them stayed depressed or unsuccessful.

Hey depressed person. What is your impossible dream? Do you have one? If you don't, then that is where you are in greatest poverty. That is the thing you lack most of all. That is the thing you actually lack.

Who told you, that you are not entitled to an impossible dream of your own?

Did you tell yourself that?

I concluded people with serious depression are under the influence of a hamartic (lethally psychotic) narcissism. The narcissism is a very crazy monkey on your back holding a gun against your head.

Then I recognized that extreme narcissism hates mocking ridicule more than it hates the soul it parasitizes. It wants to destroy the source of the ridicule more than it wants to destroy itself. Narcissistic terrorists just wanna scare the shit outta people, and you deal with them differently. There are all kinds, and a few are the real deal, but depression is a racket for many, and you gotta be alert for the ulterior narcissistic payoff the 'victim' wants.

 

[sr71plt]

Here's mine. Shit happens or doesn't happen, and you deal with it. You don't wallow in the mire, dont use challenges as excuses or career moves, and don't use adversity as a club to smack your dog. As we say in the bizness, troubles aren't coupons you collect and redeem for gifts like murder or divorce or adultery. If you got a headache, the kids still gotta be fed.

Frankly, when I see a posting like the OP on Internet discussion boards, this is the first thought I have too. If the problem is genuine, I think seeking help from strangers on the Internet is more than a bit crazy. If it's just to get attention, I'm not interested in being an enabler.

 

[_Lynn_]

I realized I was depressed when I saw the old Zoloft commercials. When I saw them, I said to myself, "What the heck makes me so special that my funk is clinical depression?"

I also used to think that I deserved to feel that way because of something I did or said (and most of the time, I hadn't said or done anything wrong).

For me, it's the brain chemicals. It has nothing to do with circumstances or the future or whom I'm with or what I do.

I'm not saying that meds are the only way to affect brain chemicals. I went on a weekend retreat once. I felt so euphoric after that, the depression that I had felt for months was beaten into submission.

Before my diagnosis, my family doctor prescribed antidepressants. They didn't help. In fact, I got worse, because my condition wasn't depression. Antidepressants can trigger a manic episode in some people (the professional discussion on this is a lengthy one).

With the right combination of drugs designed for the chemical imbalance in my head, along with positive thinking, I can control the very symptoms that used to control me.

 

[_Lynn_]

Frankly, when I see a posting like the OP on Internet discussion boards, this is the first thought I have too. If the problem is genuine, I think seeking help from strangers on the Internet is more than a bit crazy. If it's just to get attention, I'm not interested in being an enabler.

I get that, in a way. But sometimes, just admitting a problem is scary, so voicing it to family or friends can be really hard to do. Typing it out to strangers is safe. And someone might just have a piece of advice that helps.

 

[sr71plt]

The piece of advice that would help would be to see a professional unless all you wanted was attention (which is a bit of a medical problem itself). And you can really do that before posting to the Internet and ignoring this advice anyway.

 

[_Lynn_]

The piece of advice that would help would be to see a professional unless all you wanted was attention (which is a bit of a medical problem itself). And you can really do that before posting to the Internet and ignoring this advice anyway.

It's not always that simple. But I respect your opinion on the subject.

 

[patientlee]

It's not always that simple. But I respect your opinion on the subject.

You're right. It's not that simple. My doctor knew the protocol, but didn't have a clue what I was feeling. It's like going to a male gynecologist. They know what to with the lady parts, but they don't have a clue how inconvenient it is to bleed 1/4 of your life.

Sometimes you have to talk to someone who's been through it, and something like this is often easier to discuss with internet strangers than to risk having a friend or coworker accusing you of seeking attention.

 

[StrangeLife]

...but they don't have a clue how inconvenient it is to bleed 1/4 of your life.

On an unrelated note, I have always wondered why evolution didn't make the female period shorter. I mean we are talking about a week every month where all cave-women effectively walked around with a big neon sign floating above their heads saying "EAT ME! I'M TASTY!"

All big predators can smell blood a mile away and jumping into the water to get away will end up looking like a live re-enactment of Sharknado. A woman with an ultra short period ("FWWOMPH!" - Done!), would have had a huge evolutionary advantage...

 

[patientlee]

On an unrelated note, I have always wondered why evolution didn't make the female period shorter. I mean we are talking about a week every month where all cave-women effectively walked around with a big neon sign floating above their heads saying "EAT ME! I'M TASTY!"

All big predators can smell blood a mile away and jumping into the water to get away will end up looking like a live re-enactment of Sharknado. A woman with an ultra short period ("FWWOMPH!" - Done!), would have had a huge evolutionary advantage...

For the same reason that mothers have not evolved to have an extra arm for each child. The universe is fucking with us.

 

[JKendallDane]

Frankly, when I see a posting like the OP on Internet discussion boards, this is the first thought I have too. If the problem is genuine, I think seeking help from strangers on the Internet is more than a bit crazy. If it's just to get attention, I'm not interested in being an enabler.

It is comments like those that cause many people with a real problem to crawl even deeper into their shells, and quite possibly go ahead and eat that gun someday. Debiltating depression is often fueled by the fear of even dealing with the word depression and further feeds on the still-too-stereotypical, societal stigma that all mental issues are "more than a bit crazy" and only dealt with by using straitjackets and rubber rooms.

If the path to finding help begins with seeking out advice via an internet chatboard community for someone, then the most important thing is that they have TAKEN a first step.

Will they find all the answers here? Of course not! But if they find people that are willing to talk and share and help them find the way to take that next step, then there is hope.

I have no interest in being "an enabler" either. But after having been there with a loaded gun sitting on my desk as I type in a chatroom, I sure as hell will err on the side of compassion when someone takes that first tentative step of asking for advice. It's called being a human with a heart.

 

[StrangeLife]

For the same reason that mothers have not evolved to have an extra arm for each child. The universe is fucking with us.

Well, my personal conclusion is, that there is no understanding women. Not only do we guys not get them, but they have even the universe itself baffled.

http://s21.postimg.org/ovi0cx5k3/684_59a8c19ad602c5d5b3149cef52540c113.gif

 

[patientlee]

Well, my personal conclusion is, that there is no understanding women. Not only do we guys not get them, but they have even the universe itself baffled.

http://s21.postimg.org/ovi0cx5k3/684_59a8c19ad602c5d5b3149cef52540c113.gif

Mission accomplished.