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...in the united states, basically nine guns for every ten people.

Do americans like shooting children for sport?
 
...in the united states, basically nine guns for every ten people.

Do americans like shooting children for sport?

Only 9? Fail...and only the damaged ones, moving target ranges are too expensive to go shoot at.
 
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...in the united states, basically nine guns for every ten people.

Do americans like shooting children for sport?

The government will completely disarm the American people and then increase their authoritarian chokehold they have on us.
 
first the guns. then the govt will get cctv installed behind every light. the information industry will rise and IT will control the world.
 

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One good quip deserves another Lance.

We aren't going to degenerate into playing 'tens' here are we?

Ishmael


If I were given the task of changing the ways gun ownership is perceived and realized in the USA, I would honor your Constitutional mandate to enable the citizenry to protect the country from threats, foeign and domestic.

I would do so by adopting mandatory military service a la Switzerland so that all able bodied/able minded adults were trained and gave service annually.

These people would all have and properly keep in their homes government issue weapons and be trained to know how when where and why to use them in accordance with the chain of command.

Shooting would also become an organized recreational activity.

(The largest rifle shooting contest in the world is held annually in Switzerland, attracting 200,000 participants.)

Placed in their proper context, weapons are an important part of what makes the USA the country it is.

The challenge is to remove the perversions surrounding gun ownership and use in the USA.

Big challenge, as the way things are now is clearly wacky.
 
If I were given the task of changing the ways gun ownership is perceived and realized in the USA, I would honor your Constitutional mandate to enable the citizenry to protect the country from threats, foeign and domestic.

I would do so by adopting mandatory military service a la Switzerland so that all able bodied/able minded adults were trained and gave service annually.

These people would all have and properly keep in their homes government issue weapons and be trained to know how when where and why to use them in accordance with the chain of command.

Shooting would also become an organized recreational activity.

(The largest rifle shooting contest in the world is held annually in Switzerland, attracting 200,000 participants.)

Placed in their proper context, weapons are an important part of what makes the USA the country it is.

The challenge is to remove the perversions surrounding gun ownership and use in the USA.

Big challenge, as the way things are now is clearly wacky.

In a way your proposal re. training is occurring here. Albeit the individuals are paying for their own training. I am speaking, of course, of the huge jump in concealed carry permits in the 'must issue' states. Interesting that all of the anti's predictions of carnage in the streets as a result of the states passing those laws never came to fruition. Gun ownership and CC permits went up, crime went down. Who'd of thought that in a million years? (A rhetorical question, no need to answer.)

But the politicos and various biz operators, in the interests of PR created 'gun free zones.' In effect they herded the deer into a fenced compound and told the would be perp, "Shoot as many as you want." The amusing corollary to that was in Croc. Dundee II where the Kangaroo started shooting back.

Time and time again in these shooting rampages we see where once the perp was confronted with equal force they either took their own life or surrendered. And the carnage they wrought is/was directly proportional to the length of time it took for that counter-force to appear. (As an aside, quite frankly I'm somewhat surprised that some Islamist hasn't made a run at US schools as they've done in most of the rest of the world where they have any numbers.)

Based on the numbers you posted you and I are both aware that there will be no confiscation of firearms in the US. The democrats can try, but they are well aware that the attempt would be the equivalent of electoral suicide. Nor will there be any national 'buy back' program, at least not one that would have any effect. The proposed law(s) that are being brought forth deal with cosmetics, nothing more, and will have little if any effect.

Before the CT shootings ever occurred I posted a thread concerning rampage shootings. In effect the avg. number of fatalities in a rampage shooting where civilians, armed or not, fought back was 2.2 (approx. I'm working from memory here) and the avg. number of fatalities where the police became involved was 14.3. So the obvious means to reduce rampage shooting fatalities is to disarm the civilians????????

Regarding your proposal concerning mandatory national service for everyone, I actually agree with you there. If for no other reason than compulsory psychological screening will be involved and those that fail badly enough we can decide whether to isolate, euthanize, or ship them off to Australia. :D

Ishmael
 
I could go for Swiss rules. Give me a gummint issued 7.62mm and all the ammo I can practice with, and let me ride the bus with it over my shoulder to go to the public range to practice. Hell, I'd go weekly.
 
I could go for Swiss rules. Give me a gummint issued 7.62mm and all the ammo I can practice with, and let me ride the bus with it over my shoulder to go to the public range to practice. Hell, I'd go weekly.

I spent about a year and a half in Switzerland, a couple of weeks at a time, over a 20 year period. Guns are everywhere, not just the government issued guns.

I was at an outdoor store in Basel one Saturday morning, and a kid about 10 rides up on a bike, with a bolt action .22 strapped to his shoulder. He was bringing it in for service. Nobody flipped out, it was just a normal thing.

It's not the guns, it's the mindset of the people that cause problems.
 
I spent about a year and a half in Switzerland, a couple of weeks at a time, over a 20 year period. Guns are everywhere, not just the government issued guns.

I was at an outdoor store in Basel one Saturday morning, and a kid about 10 rides up on a bike, with a bolt action .22 strapped to his shoulder. He was bringing it in for service. Nobody flipped out, it was just a normal thing.

It's not the guns, it's the mindset of the people that cause problems.


I took a Civil War-era rifle to school for a report I was doing on Sherman's March to the Sea. I hate to think of the furor if something like that happened now.
 
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