2024 Democratic National Convention Thread

[butters]

I missed Gov. Kathy Hochul's speech but, apparently, it's the one trump's still ranting most about:

"Donald Trump was born a New Yorker, but ended up a fraud, a philanderer and a felon. If you think you’re tired of Donald Trump, talk to a New Yorker. We’ve had to deal with him for 78 long years—the fraud, the tax-dodging, the sham university, the shady charities."

"He abuses women, brags about it, and then takes away their rights. And New Yorkers are sick of it. It’s no wonder he had to flee to Mar-a-Lago — sorry about that, Florida, sorry about that, Trump hasn’t spent much time in New York lately. Except, that is, to get convicted of 34 felonies."

trump thinks it's the nastiest speech

“Kathy Hochul, the very unpopular Governor of New York, was the nastiest speaker on Monday evening (at the Democrat National Convention) as it pertains to your favorite President, me,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Her total hatred, and statements made about me, had no bounds.”

The former president appeared to be responding to Hochul’s remark from the speech when she said the GOP nominee was “born a New Yorker, but ended up a fraud, a philanderer and a felon.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...-kathy-hochul-democratic-national-convention/

 

[coati]

Great Colbert interview with Melania Trump at DNC Convention...

Melania had a lot of good points to make about her husband in this interview.

 

[jaF0]

There will be Purple Rain on the Donny Formerly Know As 'President'.

 

[schism666]

more or less than j6?
more or less violence than j6?
more dead cops than j6?

traitor didn't want any part of this one

 

[jomar]

Leaving Afghanistan was the biggest tactical and strategic blunder sin modern US military history. Just ask the British. Surrendering Bagram air base to the Taliban was nothing more than pure stupidity. Biden refused to take the advice of his generals.

As I’m sure you’re aware, withdrawing from Afghanistan falls directly at trump’s feet

Can't convict if the DOJ runs a protection racket for the Biden crime family. Lack of a conviction doesn't mean lack of guilt. There are two sets of crimes, Biden's mishandling of classified docs violations, family accepting funds from adversarial governments and the DOJ's obstruction of justice. It will come out eventually.

Oh ffs

 

[RoryN]

Looks like, after last night, RFKJr has seen enough.

 

[Lazaran]

I missed Gov. Kathy Hochul's speech but, apparently, it's the one trump's still ranting most about:





trump thinks it's the nastiest speech


https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...-kathy-hochul-democratic-national-convention/

Her speech started off kinda shaky, but she ultimately savaged Trump right where it hurts: His ego.

She gets high marks from me.

 

[RoryN]

Stevie Wonder to perform...

 

[jaF0]

It's a miracle.

 

[jaF0]

Chuck Schumer Says Kamala Harris' Momentum Expands Senate Map for Democrats​

"I have never been to a convention where people are more excited, more intent on winning and more unified," the Senate majority leader said.



Yer chikkinz' a'int plucked and in the pot yet Chuckles.

 

[ll74]

Excerpt from Barrack's speech

 

[jaF0]

In a sane world, that might work. This is a Donny world, with the Cult proven to ignore all forms of common sense.

 

[dmallord]

rotflmao. Let's not even pretend it was Biden. We all know it's not. It's whoever is running the US, and with Biden wandering around on vacation, and Harris swaning around campaigning, it's whoever the fuck has been fucking the USA over for the last 3.5 years, but let's not waste time pretending it was Biden. He barely knows what day it is these days. Anyhow, let's call it the Biden Admministration because he's still the puppet, and it's pretty blatant at this point, but whatever.

Funding going to Ukraine? My ass. The Biden Administration has about 16 billion left to use on Ukraine (most of the 61 billion was NOT for Ukraine!!!)
11 billion from the 61 billion was actually FOR Ukraine.
4 billion has been held over from 2023 because it WASN'T SPENT
2 billion "found"

The Biden Administration has actually spent about 1 billion in the last few months...
in August they spent 125 million.....

IF the Biden Administration keeps on track with current declining aid packages the current aid will last.....about 10 years (128 months) !!!

SPEND THE FUCKING MONEY that was budgeted for Ukraine!!!! The Biden Administrations is actively BLOCKING aid authorized by the American people’s representatives for Ukraine. Now, let's all remember that Trump was impeached for "delaying aid"!!!! Keep in mind that the lend lease act of 2022 that Cornyn (R-TX) got passed and Biden signed approved $33+ billion for weapons,,, and Biden refused to use it even when Ukraine was begging for it. And now Ukraine were and still are ok with paying back lend lease as well!!!

There is NOTHING to thank the Biden Administration for whatsoever. They kicked off this war by greenlighting Putin. They expected Ukraine to fall right away and offered Zelensky a ride out. They don't want Ukraine to win, and I think that's more than obvious now. The early intel leak when the orcs were N of Kyiv was a dead giveaway. The US model had predicted Russia would take all of the Eastern Ukraine up to the Dnipro River, then there'd be a ceasefire. Ukraine surprised them, and everything since then has been aimed at appearing to support Ukraine while ensuring Ukraine doesn't win. They've drip fed and slow walked aid the entire time. We have 3,500 M1 tanks sitting in the desert in storage and they send 30 or 40 odd. We have 2000 Bradley's sitting in the desert and they sent a couple of hundred. We have 100's of old F16's and they sent not one, and had slow walked pilot training and knee-capped Sweden sending Gripen's (engine licensing).

The Biden Administration kneecapped Polish Mig-29's going to Ukraine early on. We have literally hundreds of old 155mm howitzers sitting in storage and not one has been refurbished to send to Ukraine. The ZSU is crying out for IFV's, we have surplus Strykers out the ying yang, and what do we send. A couple of hundred. We have A10's we are getting rid of, and what do we send to Ukraine. Fucking nada. And spare me the bullshit about survivability. The ZSU has proved they know what they're doing and they can take losses to slaughter Russians. Nope, there is NOTHING to thank the Biden Administration for, and Zelensky and Ukraine KNOW they are being played now. It's obvious enough that everyone realizes it.

The Biden Administration knee-capped Ukraine and instigate the fall of Avdiivka by engineering the cutoff of 155mm ammo supply, a deliberate and artificial constraint designed to pressure the GOP on a US domestic political issue when there was billions of dollars of drawdown authority left. The Biden Administration deliberately killed thousands of Ukrainian soldiers to try and leverage an advantage in domestic US politics. The Biden Administration has 16 BILLION in funding available that has been approved that it has not, is not, and very visibly WILL NOT be used to aid Ukraine.

Why in the fuck not? I think with the Kursk offensive, we have just had that demonstrated to us in spades. The Biden Administration has leaked Ukrainian plans to the Russians. They have forbidden Ukrainian moves in the past. They have actively worked to limit what Ukraine does and how they can use US - and European - supplied weapons, and CONTINUE to do so. The US was very deliberately NOT advised of the Kursk offensive, and operational security was kept tighter than a nun's ass. Because if the US had known, Russian would have known. What does THAT say about the Biden Administration? And the US military for that matter.

No, this whole Kursk offensive has the Biden Administration shitting bricks, because it's outside the game plan and Ukraine is engineering a Ukrainian victory DESPITE the best efforts of the USA to leverage Ukraine into accepting a permanent loss of territory to Russia, a a ceasefire design to preserve Putin.

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Sounds like we need to put you in charge of the US operations for Ukraine and kick ass.

 

[dmallord]

It isn't February yet.

Why are you waiting until February?

Get up! Stand Up! Speak Up! Sitting on your hands, like Obama said, until February doesn't do this country any good.

 

[jaF0]

Nothing at all may matter until Late January. The 'Pubs can twist the numbers to their advantage and delay, or even deny certification.

 

[icanhelp1]

The House.Oversight committee has not referred any such charges to the DoJ. Instead, they released a report suggesting that things may have occurred that would be impeachable.

So while you believe shit happened, the DoJ isn't the one protecting anyone.

Weiss let 2 years of Hunter Biden tax evasion run out the statute of limitations. IRS whistleblowers brought attention to the tax evasion violations which they believed further investigation into the tax evasion violations would have implicated Joe Biden in the peddling of the brand.

The house was dealing with impeachment proceedings not referrals. What sense would it make for the house to refer Biden to the DOJ for criminal violations. They needed Weiss to open up a grand jury probe back in, I believe, in 2018. Weiss let the statute run out. The DOJ shut down the investigation by the IRS.

As I’m sure you’re aware, withdrawing from Afghanistan falls directly at trump’s feet


Oh ffs

The Withdrawal from Afghanistan is Biden's debacle. He was the CiC. His generals advised against the withdrawal but he did it anyway. Are you trying to tell me that Biden is so feckless that he couldn't say no or change deadlines. Maybe your right, Biden is an incompetent fool when it comes to foreign policy.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Sounds like we need to put you in charge of the US operations for Ukraine and kick ass.

LOL. I would love that job! There'd be dead bureaucrats everywhere and 200 Bradley's crossing the Polish border tomorrow...

 

[SmokingFap]

Democracy Docket is a good way to keep up with Elias and the fight for democracy.

They have a good YouTube channel too:
https://youtube.com/@democracydocket

Elias is a fucking boss. Pretty funny guy, too. He's a great interview on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel.

 

[dmallord]

Can't convict if the DOJ runs a protection racket for the Biden crime family. Lack of a conviction doesn't mean lack of guilt. There are two sets of crimes, Biden's mishandling of classified docs violations, family accepting funds from adversarial governments and the DOJ's obstruction of justice. It will come out eventually.

• There are alleged criminal acts - but no evidence because senile Biden has covered his tracks so well evidence can't be found?
• The chief criminal Biden did so much better at CYA actions that he outdid the convicted felon at his own game?
• According to new SC rules, now, Biden is guilty before a conviction and even before a trial?!!!! But... Trump wasn't right? How's that working?
• Two sets of crimes? But... you listed three w/o substantiation?
• What about the SC's stance that the President is immune to prosecution for actions carried out in his official capacity? Does this mean that bribes are acceptable, as Trump seems to suggest? Does this mean that Biden is immune from guilt, even if proven guilty in a trial that may never happen? After years of congressional investigation, the best they could come up with is: 'We couldn't find a smoking gun, but he's guilty anyway.'

Eventually... sigh... nothing will come out.

 

[dmallord]

Looks like, after last night, RFKJr has seen enough.

And has the audacity of pandering to Trump for a job as a token for favoring him over Harris in November.

Does Kennedy believe his populace would actually vote for Trump? How many more bears can he kill to get their attention and swing them in Trump's direction?

 

[ll74]

Weiss let 2 years of Hunter Biden tax evasion run out the statute of limitations. IRS whistleblowers brought attention to the tax evasion violations which they believed further investigation into the tax evasion violations would have implicated Joe Biden in the peddling of the brand.

The house was dealing with impeachment proceedings not referrals. What sense would it make for the house to refer Biden to the DOJ for criminal violations. They needed Weiss to open up a grand jury probe back in, I believe, in 2018. Weiss let the statute run out. The DOJ shut down the investigation by the IRS.

No referral

The Withdrawal from Afghanistan is Biden's debacle. He was the CiC. His generals advised against the withdrawal but he did it anyway. Are you trying to tell me that Biden is so feckless that he couldn't say no or change deadlines. Maybe your right, Biden is an incompetent fool when it comes to foreign policy.

Unrelated and irrelevant to the topic

Maybe your should start a grievance thread.

 

[jomar]

The Withdrawal from Afghanistan is Biden's debacle. He was the CiC. His generals advised against the withdrawal but he did it anyway. Are you trying to tell me that Biden is so feckless that he couldn't say no or change deadlines. Maybe your right, Biden is an incompetent fool when it comes to foreign policy.

No, I’m saying trump negotiated with the Taliban behind the Afghan government’s back and made a deal with them to leave by a certain date or they’d ramp up war, hence at his feet. If Biden stayed and more US solders were deployed there because of the Taliban waging war you’d be shitting your pants about that.

 

[jaF0]

'Grandmother' of Juneteenth Opal Lee attends her 1st DNC at age 97​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|1 hour ago
Lee told ABC News she is ready to rally for Vice President Kamala Harris. Opal Lee, the woman known by many as the "grandmother of the movement" to make Juneteenth a federal holiday, is attending her first-ever Democratic National Convention at the age of 97.

 

[Lazaran]

No, I’m saying trump negotiated with the Taliban behind the Afghan government’s back and made a deal with them to leave by a certain date or they’d ramp up war, hence at his feet. If Biden stayed and more US solders were deployed there because of the Taliban waging war you’d be shitting your pants about that.

I would only add:

If the U.S. had stayed in Afghanistan, besides having to fight an enraged Taliban that had been reinforced by 5,000 hardened Taliban fighters that Trump forced the Afghan government to let out of prison, the U.S. military / defense / diplomatic apparatus would also currently be dividing its attention between active conflicts in Afghanistan (boots on the ground), Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, and the emerging threats in East Asia, the Indo / South Pacific, and Africa. (The problems in South / Central America, along with the associated immigration and border security issues would also have remained.)

Afghanistan being off the board has made things exponentially more manageable for the U.S. military / defense / diplomatic apparatus.

Full stop.

 

[YDB95]

I would only add:

If the U.S. had stayed in Afghanistan, besides having to fight an enraged Taliban that had been reinforced by 5,000 hardened Taliban fighters that Trump forced the Afghan government to let out of prison, the U.S. military / defense / diplomatic apparatus would also currently be dividing its attention between active conflicts in Afghanistan (boots on the ground), Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, and the emerging threats in East Asia, the Indo / South Pacific, and Africa. (The problems in South / Central America, along with the associated immigration and border security issues would also have remained.)

Afghanistan being off the board has made things exponentially more manageable for the U.S. military / defense / diplomatic apparatus.

Full stop.

Not to mention, if we couldn't stamp out the Taliban in twenty years, just how long were we supposed to stay?