19,000 Votes Florida DISQUALIFIED

[Daytripper]

Your Republican spin is wrong. That's 15,000 total disqualified votes in 1996, not 15,000 double marked votes. The 19,000 number today represents all double marked votes. The actual total of disqualified ballots in pam beach cty is 30,000, compared to 15,000 from 1996, quite a difference. Good try though.

 

[Cheyenne]

It's pretty rude of you to call elderly people 'stupid'. I doubt you'd be calling them 'stupid' if they were Bush voters.

Just read this in an email to me this morning and it seems to be a perfect response to you so I will quote it here:

"Why is it that only the Gore voters had trouble
punching the right holes on the ballot? Does this mean that Bush voters are inherently more competent at basic tasks?"

So, why is it exactly that you believe all of those 19,000 ballots were meant to be cast for Gore? I don't discriminate- whether you are young, old, Democrat or Republican, I still think you are stupid if you can't figure out a simple ballot or ask questions if you don't understand it. Voting twice and canceling your own vote is stupid. Period. No matter which person you intended to vote (or not vote) for.

 

[Cheyenne]

Gore won, Bush is not my President, never will be.

So, if the recount doesn't change the result of the election and Bush is our official president, which country are you moving to so that he isn't your president?

Last I checked, we don't each get to pick our personal version of the president. You weren't one of those 19,000 people who voted twice, by any chance, were you?

 

[Daytripper]

So, why is it exactly that you believe all of those 19,000 ballots were meant to be cast for Gore? I don't discriminate- whether you are young, old, Democrat or Republican, I still think you are stupid if you can't figure out a simple ballot or ask questions if you don't understand it. Voting twice and canceling your own vote is stupid. Period. No matter which person you intended to vote (or not vote) for.


[/B]

Is that a serious question or are you joking? Look at the ballot layout, look at the disproportionate number of Buchanan votes. That'll answer your question. If it doesn't then I think you're the last person who should be questioning voter's intelligence. This has been fun boys and girls but I'm off to work, be back to fight more later. ciao

 

[Ambrosious]

Also, as long as you are looking, look up the number of REGISTERED independents in Palm Beach county. Quite a shock for you I guarantee. I think they MEANT to cast their vote for Buchannan. If not, oh well. The same ballot that Daly is screaming about is the one used in his voting county! Why wasn't it confusing then? I guess we'll just keep voting until we get the results we want, huh?

 

[Cheyenne]

...If it doesn't then I think you're the last person who should be questioning voter's intelligence.

* In her best little kid's whining voice* Want to match IQ scores? I betcha I win! I win! *Do I whine as well as a Democrat yet?*

Maybe that's the problem. I just can't relate to anyone being so stupid as to vote twice on the same ballot.

 

[Daytripper]

More Republican spin and babble I see. I really need to get to work, people! The Reform party makes up for a very small percentage of those independents (less than 500), the majority of those are members of the American Independent Party. the Reform and AIP are completely separate entities who do not endorse one another, I can't explain it any clearer than that, if you still believe that any party that calls itself Independent is the same then you're even more politically ignorant than I imagined. Cheyenne, no I'm not from Florida. Thanks for the pointless insult though, I would hate to have to think conservatives could stand on the facts without whipping around labels like 'liberal' and 'stupid' on anyone who disagrees. Allright I'm leaving now, more same time tomorrow.

 

[Cheyenne]

Cheyenne, no I'm not from Florida. Thanks for the pointless insult though, I would hate to have to think conservatives could stand on the facts without whipping around labels like 'liberal' and 'stupid' on anyone who disagrees.

Pay attention, please. You're mixing up insults. I asked you if you were one of the 19,000 in Florida not because you disagreed. This world would be very boring if you all agreed with me. I asked you because you seem to think you can have your own personal president if you don't like the one the rest of us elect. See? This is what I said: "Last I checked, we don't each get to pick our personal version of the president. You weren't one of those 19,000 people who voted twice, by any chance, were you?"

And you didn't answer my original question. Which country are you moving to if Bush wins? Have you picked one out yet?

 

[Ambrosious]

All right, I'll speak slower. The reason that Buchannan vote was higher has to do with the number of independents registered. It is much higher than in any other county.
However, Bush campaign aides suggested that those votes may have been intended for Buchanan after all. They noted that the Florida Board of Elections shows 16,695 voters in Palm Beach County are registered independents, as compared to 476 registered independents in Broward County where the Buchanan vote was much lower.

Even if you thake away the number that voted for other independents, you still are left with a huge number of Buchannan voters.

Get it yet?

 

[Daytripper]

I'm not moving anywhere. This is my country too believe it or not, just because I disagree with you does not mean I have to leave. Your man's fucked though, mark my words. he was not chosen by the people, he won via a technicality. We'll talk in 4 years, you'll see that Bushie forcing himself upon the nation wsa the worst thing to happen to Republicans. I'm laughing already. Allright now, this is goodnight, I must go to work.

 

[Cheyenne]

Whine.... whine.....whine..... Anyone besides me hear a high pitched whine in here????

 

[Ambrosious]

What I don't get is saying that Bush ain't YOUR president and then stating that this is your country. If he wins, he will be YOUR president, if this is YOUR country.

Am I making sense?

 

[Cheyenne]

Ambrosious, you make perfect sense. I'm waiting for the answer to my question as to which country Daytripper is planning to move to. He is the one that claimed Bush will never be his president. Therefore, if Bush wins and becomes the official president, Daytripper must be planning on leaving to live somewhere else. Either that, or Daytripper is under the illusion that he can have his own personally chosen president here. His own statements, not mine. Nothing to do with whether he agrees or disagrees with me. See why I suspected he was one of the 19,000 voters in Florida?

 

[Ambrosious]

Either that, or Daytripper is under the illusion that he can have his own personally chosen president here.

Isn't that what most liberals think? Sorry Laurel! I think that the idea that the White House is about to attain some morality and dignity scares the beejesus out of them. lol

 

[Cheyenne]

Isn't that what most liberals think? Sorry Laurel! I think that the idea that the White House is about to attain some morality and dignity scares the beejesus out of them. lol [/B]

Nope, I think we aren't saying the same thing. Nothing at all to do with "morality and dignity." I'm giving Daytripper a hard time only because of his comment about Bush not ever being his president. Reminded me of all the idiots on BOTH sides of the equation who said before the election that they would move to Canada if their candidate didn't win. Daytripper didn't specify which country he would move to so I thought I'd ask. Just a polite question.

Liberals in general realize that Bush is their president if the election results hold, they won't go around saying Bush isn't their president just because they didn't happen to vote for him. They aren't as wacky as Daytripper.

 

[Expertise]

If it accomplishes nothing else

This election and specificaly the situation in Florida will solidify the US's hold on the title as......

THE MOST LITIGIOUS NATION ON EARTH!

God help you. It looks like it will be decided by the lawyers now.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Latina]

That comment about finally getting some morality in the White House was funny! The whole brouhaha in Florida is about that G Dubbya and his brother Jeb may have deliberately broken election laws. Screw the law, do whatever it takes to make sure the gov's brother wins. And that makes Dubbya and his kinfolk MORE moral than Gore? That is just a damned FUNNY comment!

You also forget, Dubbya IS a politician. Honest politician or moral politician is an oxymoron!

Finally, it is NOT being whiny to insist that, IF Bush is to be our President, he at least got there by LEGAL means. Nixon did NOT get there by legal means in 1972--even though he ran a campaign about law and order, he was breaking all KINDS of laws, and the country kicked his sorry butt OUT of office. If Bush is elected because he and his brother played fast and loose with election laws, obstructed people's right to vote for the candidate they WANTED to vote for, will you conservatives REALLY feel good about your man being in office via illegal means?

Let's have a full and fair and thorough investigation, make sure there really weren't any illegalities and improprieties in the elction, before declaring EITHER candidate a winner. To say at this early stage that Bush won fair and square, that Gore should shut-up about possible lawbreaking and just go away, when the facts are still being investigated, is just WRONG. Even BUSH isn't saying that yet.

I don't object to anyone supporting Bush, I do object to those who want to declare that he won legally when we don't know that yet. If he DID win legally, fine, congratulations to him, but if he didn't, he should NOT be president. The president is, among other things, the highest law-enforcement figure in the U.S., and as we saw with Nixon, this country will NOT sit still for the irony of having our highest law-enforcement figure having gotten the job by BREAKING the law.

Let's everybody calm down until the investigation runs its course and we know who really won. And let's get back to that topic that all of us Literoticans find so much more important and much more interesting: PANTIES!

- Latina

 

[KillerMuffin]

God help you. It looks like it will be decided by the lawyers now.

KillerMuffin runs screaming from the thread, scared half to death by the dreaded demonic evil Expertise dared utter. The visceral evil fills the room with it's maniacal laughter, reaffirming it's control over the unsuspecting populace.

Okay, maybe that was a little over the top, but the fate of the national presidency residing in the hands of the lawyers? I shuder to think.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[Cheyenne]

And let's get back to that topic that all of us Literoticans find so much more important and much more interesting: PANTIES!

- Latina

You crack me up, Latina, you really do. I don't personally find panties so much more important and more interesting than our presidential election. Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you do, though. Enjoy!

 

[Thumper]

I worry...

when people start talking about the President being a moral guidepost. And i positively hate the term "Family Values". It is usually uttered by those who wish to make their particular brand of morality the norm.
USA Today on Thursday had a breakdown of each candidates appeal. Bush appealed to those who consider morals and character more important than the ability to manage the government. Scary people. I really have no qualms about his ability to do the job.
As an interesting side note, my Father-in-law, whom I hold in high regard for his thoughtfulness and common sense. Has voted Republican all his life (He's 74) until now...he said Bush will get eaten alive in the international arena. Or take us back to the isolationist days. I think business will not let that happen..too much.