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[SinclairGroupLLP]

Yeah, I’m guessing this won’t apply to the ads on the site, lol.

 

[HeyAll]

Dead, how? There aren't that many Illustrated stories, but they often do incredibly well in terms of views. Readers obviously like them. HeyAll should chime in here, because he has figured this out and been very successful with these stories. There's obviously a big market for them.

They get lots of views largely because there's less and they stay on the Hub for a long time. A story that gets 30,000 on the first day will get over 100,000 views in a month.

Many people want the pics. That's why there are lots of stories with 100,000 views and 10 favorites.

But the good ones will get a lot of views favorites and comments about the story.

 

[nice90sguy]

As long as I can continue to write while nude I'm okay with the policy change.

My illustrated stories (which have by far the most views of any of my stories) feature a few naked pics.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

They get lots of views largely because there's less and they stay on the Hub for a long time. A story that gets 30,000 on the first day will get over 100,000 views in a month.

Many people want the pics. That's why there are lots of stories with 100,000 views and 10 favorites.

But the good ones will get a lot of views favorites and comments about the story.

I am curious how this change will affect the already existing illustrated stories. For example, I know that silkstockingslover, the most popular author on the site by far, has dozens of illustrated stories that feature explicit art (such as from the artist Rebecca). I mean, I don't see those stories working without said art, so I don't imagine Jasmine will be happy about this change.
The site wouldn't play favorites, right?

 

[AG31]

I do. The status quo provides many ways for users to avoid nude images if their virgin eyes simply cannot stand it.

The one place where it's difficult to avoid people next to you seeing nudes on the phone screen is with avatars. I totally agree about one's ability to visit visually oriented forums in comfortable environments.

 

[AG31]

It's more about reading through a thread and, suddenly, there's a porn video or a pic that shouldn't be here anyway. Of course you can report it, but it's a bit late for that.

If I want to view porn, I'll go to a porn site...not a Lit Erotica site.

Interesting topic for discussion. When does nudity become porn? When does porn, by definition, not have artistic value?

 

[AG31]

As for nudity embedded in AVs and Sigs, those can already be disabled as well.

How do you do that? Not that I want to; I'm taking screen shots of some favored nude avatars. But I'm curious as to how one disables nude avatars?

 

[AG31]

What I'm concerned about is who exactly has provided "overwhelmingly positive feedback" and whether or not they represent the majority of Lit users (either on the forum side or the story side) or if this group of feedback senders (which, by the way, I do not ever remember seeing any public indication that I was allowed to join it or be part of it or whatever) is designed for the sole purpose of being yes-people and/or were "randomly" selected because they'd agree with a certain agenda.

I must say that I've certainly never been asked for feedback.

 

[AG31]

An interesting paradox is that Literotica stories have webcam banners/ads at the top of each page.

Now THAT'S what I would like to disable!!!!! I can never log on to Lit until I'm sure family members are not in the near vicinity.

 

[Voboy]

How do you do that? Not that I want to; I'm taking screen shots of some favored nude avatars. But I'm curious as to how one disables nude avatars?

I'm not sure; I've not messed with my settings in many, many years. But I recall that I once fucked up, checked or unchecked a box, and hey presto! it wouldn't show anybody's avatars anymore.

If that functionality no longer exists, then I agree it's a problem. But to the extent people can already curate their own experience, they should.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

With a little bit of programming, the site could simply introduce a setting where everyone could check whether they want to see explicit content or not. When posting a nude/explicit image, the poster would be required to tag it as explicit, and that image wouldn't show for people who had unchecked "explicitness." The implementation is simple on paper but it does depend on how Lit handles images.

 

[Winter_Fare]

My humble opinion?

Delete the naked breasts explicit images etc, it's their site, they can do whatever they like. Stikes me as utterly pointless while the web cam ads still scroll across the top of the story pages.

Also, forum side, we have photos of massacred bodies left intact on threads.

Personally I prefer the porn

There's some beautiful arty photos on the site too, especially BDSM rope work, jewellery etc. I think this policy change is using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

 

[AG31]

Stikes me as utterly pointless while the web cam ads still scroll across the top of the story pages.

Yes! That's what I'd like to see removed, or at least make it disable-able. I can't log on to Lit until I'm sure now one is in the vicinity of my computer. Once I'm in, I feel pretty much in control.

 

[RejectReality]

Everybody who keeps saying "The banner ads!": Find a nude image in them.

( I have come across one with bare breasts, and a couple of questionable butts/bodypainting, but to say it's rare is an overstatement. )

99.99% of the images in the banner ads comply with this new policy, and are in line with what gets approved for series covers/header images. I suspect the ones that don't are probably in violation of the cam site's headshot policy and won't last long. There would be nudes everywhere if they weren't restricted from doing so.

Not arguing this is a good idea, but trying to use the banner ads as an example just doesn't work. They're overwhelmingly in compliance.

 

[Winter_Fare]

Everybody who keeps saying "The banner ads!": Find a nude image in them.

( I have come across one with bare breasts, and a couple of questionable butts/bodypainting, but to say it's rare is an overstatement. )

99.99% of the images in the banner ads comply with this new policy, and are in line with what gets approved for series covers/header images. I suspect the ones that don't are probably in violation of the cam site's headshot policy and won't last long. There would be nudes everywhere if they weren't restricted from doing so.

Not arguing this is a good idea, but trying to use the banner ads as an example just doesn't work. They're overwhelmingly in compliance.

Schoolgirls anyone???

 

[AG31]

Everybody who keeps saying "The banner ads!": Find a nude image in them.

( I have come across one with bare breasts, and a couple of questionable butts/bodypainting, but to say it's rare is an overstatement. )

99.99% of the images in the banner ads comply with this new policy, and are in line with what gets approved for series covers/header images. I suspect the ones that don't are probably in violation of the cam site's headshot policy and won't last long. There would be nudes everywhere if they weren't restricted from doing so.

Not arguing this is a good idea, but trying to use the banner ads as an example just doesn't work. They're overwhelmingly in compliance.

It doesn't have to be nude to be something you definitely don't want friends and colleagues to see over your shoulder.

 

[B_mossy24]

An interesting paradox is that Literotica stories have webcam banners/ads at the top of each page.

Yuuuuup! If a call for no nudity on lit is happening I'd love to see some filtration of the advertisers you use that violate the policies you wish to enforce. Or... Maybe, you know, let people take the risk with going onto a porn site and let them manage their own phones and content. While some form of regulation is okay, I don't know if this new approach is it.

 

[B_mossy24]

I must say that I've certainly never been asked for feedback.

Might be nice to release some type of survey before making big changes to see what a majority of the users actually believe.

 

[desperado1089]

Schoolgirls anyone???

Game, set, and match!

 

[NuclearFairy]

Now THAT'S what I would like to disable!!!!! I can never log on to Lit until I'm sure family members are not in the near vicinity.

There's a little close x under the banner add where you can hit the x to close it. But it is rather annoying to have to click it for every story. On the upside at least you only have to click it once per story, as you go through the pages of the story it stays closed.

 

[RejectReality]

Schoolgirls anyone???

I've never seen the game ads pop up until today. LOL More of those out of compliance for certain. Typically nipples on one or two in every banner.

I still don't think it's a great argument. There's maybe 2/50 that would be out of compliance, and the policy isn't fully in force yet, so those could go away along with everything else. If the banners are still popping nips once things are getting deleted from the forum and illustrated stories gets annihilated, that's a whole other ball-o-wax, but we're not there yet.

It will likely be a death knell for large parts of the forum, but the forum is barely worth an afterthought as far as the site traffic goes. Illustrated stories get a lot of traffic, but it's still a drop in the bucket compared to everything else. Doubt it will even be a blip on the radar if they go whole-hog with what's outlined in the announcement. I don't think it's just feedback prompting the change. The crusade against adult sites by moral monitors threatening hosts and legislatures making unmanageable age-verification laws probably has as much to do with it as anything. Getting rid of images manages a whole lot of risk for very little downside.

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

Everybody who keeps saying "The banner ads!": Find a nude image in them.

( I have come across one with bare breasts, and a couple of questionable butts/bodypainting, but to say it's rare is an overstatement. )

99.99% of the images in the banner ads comply with this new policy, and are in line with what gets approved for series covers/header images. I suspect the ones that don't are probably in violation of the cam site's headshot policy and won't last long. There would be nudes everywhere if they weren't restricted from doing so.

Not arguing this is a good idea, but trying to use the banner ads as an example just doesn't work. They're overwhelmingly in compliance.

If the impetus for the change is reducing things on the front page that make the site more NSFW and make it hard for people to look at the site on the phone, having a bunch of racy photos - even if they aren't completely nude - immediately draws the eye of the casual observer.

More than once my SO has seen me checking the site and asked what I was looking at because of those ads. If its necessary to nuke all nudity from the site, then the ads need to go, too.

 

[RejectReality]

If the impetus for the change is reducing things on the front page that make the site more NSFW and make it hard for people to look at the site on the phone, having a bunch of racy photos - even if they aren't completely nude - immediately draws the eye of the casual observer.

More than once my SO has seen me checking the site and asked what I was looking at because of those ads. If its necessary to nuke all nudity from the site, then the ads need to go, too.

Yeah, I don't completely buy the reasoning either, but the majority of them don't violate the reported guidelines or the examples available in places where it's already in force. A censor "pastie" over nipples is all that's necessary to get a cover image for a series approved, for example.

In the end, the reasoning doesn't matter if the policy is going into force. That's where I would expect the banner ads to fully comply as well.

 

[HeyAll]

I take back what I said about Illustrated works not being posted. Comics / Adult Art are still being posted in their respective catagories.

https://www.literotica.com/beta/c/adult-comics

 

[ElectricBlue]

The crusade against adult sites by moral monitors threatening hosts and legislatures making unmanageable age-verification laws probably has as much to do with it as anything. Getting rid of images manages a whole lot of risk for very little downside.

I suspect you're right, but it's would be nice to see a clear statement saying if that's the case.

Self-censoring makes sense, if the alternative is the site getting shut down by a puritan moral minority.