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MissTaken

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Maybe it is all semantics, but my guess is that each person has there own translation and use of the term "Master" or "Mistress."

What does it mean to you?

What does it do for you, regardless of role in D/s?

Is it a term you use always or only at certain times?

If you dont use this word in your relationship, why or why not? Do you have another?



Sooooooooooo

let's talk!
 
It's interesting you should ask that.

Sir, to me, is Sir. He and I have agreed that I will not call him Master, and he will not be called Master.

I believe that Master, is a name used by those who are considered slaves. They just go together, in my head.

Mistress, on the other hand, I would use for my Domme, were I to have one. I don't like Ma'am, as it makes me think of elderly ladies (sorry, it does!). I think Mistress is a beautiful word, and in my mind, it is not confined to use by a slave.

I don't really know why I see such a difference in the terms, but I do.
 
To me the word Mistress had always previously conjured up a picture of some pampered female in a LTR with a wealthy man !
 
When I had a slave (read elsewhere for my theories of Master/slave and my limited stint in slaveowning)

I preferred the honorific Master. It was given to me by my slave, and I didn't demand it, only specified a preference for Master over Mistress.

Mistress has a domestic ring to it, no matter what you do. Master is something I grew fond of reading a Tao Te Ching translation that alternated genders when speaking of the Master.

Dominance is a trait. Mastery is an attainment. I would argue, and few would agree, that Mastery is not a culmination of Dominance, Mastery is a state that allows the person to be a fulcrum, a center of energies around which things occur, a controller a mover and a spinner of things.

Sometimes this entails surrender at universal, more meta, levels. Sometimes this bears acknowledging ones own insignificance and mortality and giving another a window into their own.

Mastery is where the metaphor, the sense, and the real significance of our exchanges lies, it's the mythic dimension of very mundane and animal attractors.

Sex is the means to the philosophy, the vehicle. Yes, I said it, sex. If not out and out fucking the tug at the loins that makes us cuckoo, makes us do the extraordinary without even knowing why. Mastery is being the middle of that vortex.
 
I use Daddy 90% of the time, though when I've been bad I've been instructed to use "Sir" (keep in mind this has no bearing on what sex/gender Daddy actually is) to create a more formal and distant relationship than the intimacy "Daddy" includes.

My girlfriend, when she is topping me, is Mistress.

Daddy switches very infrequently, and when that happens both my girlfriend and I have been "Ma'am."
 
For me I rarely call Master by anything other than that or the Spanish equivalent. I sometimes use his given name, though that is more in a vanilla setting around others he wishes to remain discreet in front of. Even then if possible I use Master.

Sir was an option early on but I pointed out to him it reminded me far too much of school, and after recently completing 6 years full time study wanted a break from that thought process.

To me the term Master reminds me of how fortunate I am to be owned by one so special, and all that ownership signifies to us both. In my mind and being he is my Master far before being my husband, the Master role holding more importance and reverence for us. He owns me mind, body and soul, so the term Master reflects my respect in that commitment.

Catalina
 
catalina_francisco said:
For me I rarely call Master by anything other than that or the Spanish equivalent.
Oooh, what is the Spanish equivalent?
 
catalina_francisco said:
Huh, I would have thought that was "lover" or "loved one." In French, the equivalent of "master" is maître.
 
MissTaken said:
Maybe it is all semantics, but my guess is that each person has there own translation and use of the term "Master" or "Mistress."

What does it mean to you?

What does it do for you, regardless of role in D/s?

Is it a term you use always or only at certain times?

If you dont use this word in your relationship, why or why not? Do you have another?



Sooooooooooo

let's talk!

My Master . Why do I call him Master well when I first meet him he was called Master . I have never really thought of him as anything but Master. Although I do call him by his given name in our vanilla world. I feel my calling him Master means that I have given my all to him, for him to cherish and take care of.Sir is what I call other Doms that Master has alowed me to serve. I feel about the same with Mistress but It is a very special feminin name just for her. Ma"am does make her sound like an old lady.I like Mistress better then Ma'am and Master better then Sir.
 
Etoile said:
Huh, I would have thought that was "lover" or "loved one." In French, the equivalent of "master" is maître.

Spanish is a strange language in which many things which are confusing in English become even more confusing, and I also happen to think it is one of the most romantic languages in the world.

Amo means in Spanish master, but it also means I love you.
Te amo means I love you.
Un amante means a lover.
Mi Amo means my Master

Out of the Dictionary
amo
1 master.
2 owner.
3 boss.

So in Spanish when you call your Master Amo, you are actually saying I love you at the same time. I have always thought that to be quite romantic.

Francisco.
 
I think of Snooze as Master 99% of the time now. To me, it implies the respect and love I feel for Him. Its hard for me to think of Him in any other way. Occasionally, I call Him "Sir" and in vanilla settings I refer to Him by His given name.
 
catalina_francisco said:
So in Spanish when you call your Master Amo, you are actually saying I love you at the same time. I have always thought that to be quite romantic.
That is beautiful. Thank you for sharing! I'll have to keep that in mind.
 
There have been a few comments indicating that, in vanilla situations, we refer to our tops by their given names. I do the same, unless we are in a situation where we're not interacting with anybody and there's nobody there we know - on the street, in a store, and sometimes even at restaurants I'll say "Daddy." I wonder - do those of you who use the given name in public sometimes use your honorific (Master/Sir/whatever) in certain settings?
 
I address T as Sir (or Daddy but that's roleplaying for us) most of the time, his given name in more relaxed settings which does not necessarily exclude sexual situations, and Master when I'm totally in subspace. That as well does not necessarily exclude NON-sexual situations. Unorthodox but I speak how I feel, and if I am submitting but not feeling particularly submissive (if that makes sense), I use his name and he won't punish me for it. Likewise we could be just chatting and I would feel a moment of profound submission and need to express that feeling by the honorific.

I would address him as Sir in front of some of his friends but not yet in public hearing.

Here's a question: I've read several instances where, usually upon collaring, a slave is given a new name by her Dominant...are there any instances where the Dominant is given a special name, used only by the submissive? (Personal interest here.)
 
This is not what you are looking for, but when he calls me his Lady, Pretty Lady or, affectionately, "Masterette" it absolutely sends me. It's so affectionate and so right *for us*

I don't demand anyone call me anything, I like to see how long it takes them to want to.
 
Master or Mistress has long been a term I only use as a safeword. I really dislike shouting out nonsense words like red, or butterfly or whatnot, and when I say stop I rarely mean it LOL. I have found them to be a natural and non-interferring way of safewording in a public scene that I am comfortable with. Not sure why, but I just don't like these titles as part of my lifestyle. Thus, they make nice safewords for me.

If my Domme wanted me to address her as Mistress, I would, and be glad to do so just because she wanted it, even though it personally would not be something I would want. I like being made to do things I don't want to do. :)

I love being made to address someone as Sir or Ma'am...but it is still a struggle for me. I often need prompting. Sometimes it comes naturally, but it still makes me blush. I like this though...it means I don't and won't use the words lightly. That is important to me.
 
Ma'am works for me as well. To me it serves as a title of respect. I do not require it but I respond favorably to it, which serves to positively reinforce.
 
Hmmm... I guess it just depends on what works for the people involved. I'm not particularly attached to any term, although I do like being called "Sir" by a submissive. My lover likes to be called "Mistress" by a submissive. Go figure.

Of course, you could use "master" in the Igor fashion... "Mathta!"

Mistress has heaps of lovely connotations -- and is a well established French tradition! One must have a wife and a mistress.
 
i call him "Sir", "my Sir" or "my Sweet Sir". i think of the word Master as being for those in a very committed day to day relationship. Don't get me wrong, i am very committed to Him, but as we haven't even met in r/l yet it wouldn't mean the same to call Him that, IMO.

Someday, i will hopefully be collared by Him, and i hope He will then allow me the priviledge of calling Him by Master :)
 
MissTaken said:
Maybe it is all semantics, but my guess is that each person has there own translation and use of the term "Master" or "Mistress."

What does it mean to you?

What does it do for you, regardless of role in D/s?

Is it a term you use always or only at certain times?

If you dont use this word in your relationship, why or why not? Do you have another?



Sooooooooooo

let's talk!

well Miss Taken ....... i am Master to my slaves bunny517 and masters princess .... but if i were to top another sub i think i should be called Sir just out of respect ....... example: if i were to top you i think you should call me Sir atleast in emails and im's ....... but when scening if you wanted to call me Master i would be ok with that also .... to me its up to the people your with and what they feel comfortable with ...... Master Bill
 
Master is a term i use all the time and no matter where i am to address my Master......He is the Master of my will and of my heart and i am His completely so the term i use freely. Of course it is kinda funny when in a store and i say oh Master .....the looks that some people give U/us are priceless :D

I use Sir/Ma'am to show my respect to most Dom/mes i respect and trust but only use Master with Him because He is the only one who has Mastered me, heart and soul:)
 
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In one of my real life BDSM groups I am called Sir

My ex called me by my given name most of time
or Sir or Master

Rachel called me by my given name of Sir or Master

I love being called Daddy
 
I don't like being called master. It makes me feel like a participant in a poorly written screen play. To me, it gives things a taint of unreality or, if role playing, points the finger to the unreality and thus shatters the moment. I don't really know why this is so and I don't recall talking to anyone who evinced the same prejudice for the same reason. Just me I guess. I certainly don't object to other peoples use of the term.

I don't insist on any particular honourific, just politeness. Perhaps my sub thinks of me as Sir or master but knowing my prejudices, wisely keeps it to herself. This is of no consequence to me at all.
 
Master

This is really fascinating. I'm new to BDSM and am learning so much. I currently am most comfortable using "Sir" under most circumstances but have noticed that the more aroused I am or loving I feel towards him, the more frequently (and with ease) I'll call him "Master." I've never met him in person.

I LOVE the information given regarding Spanish name. That's just lovely!!

Also, I'd be really curious to know if anyone does know of any situation where a Dom was given a new name at a collaring.
 
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