I have written a story twice now, with the second version much milder than the first. I submitted them both under the Nonconsent/Reluctance category, and both times it was rejected suggesting perhaps there was "too much degradation, violence, humiliation, snuff, or abuse in the story. I believe this is just plain wrong. Is is possible to appeal this decision? Would anyone care to read it and offer suggestions? I'd appreciate any helpful ideas. Thanks. 2lips4u
I just don't get it. Story rejected twice??
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2lips4u said:
PM to me? I'll take a look.
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While it may be milder to you, it could still be more than what Lit is comfortable with. You could try PMing Laurel for clarification. I did that but didn't get a response. You could also try another rewrite or post it on another site such as storiesonline.
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2lips4u said:
It doesn't actually matter what you believe. It's what the site owners say that counts.
Site owners say: "No story for you!"
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Slut! *grin*
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Is it that obvious?
(I'll share.)
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Snuff is a deal-killer (as is underage or beastiality). As for being too strong in NC, that's just ridiculous. Chris44 wrote a very strong story about a young woman kidnapped, tortured, sexually assaulted in the most heinous ways, then sold into slavery. Somehow I doubt you actually could get more vile, unless the story just had nothing to offer other than the nasty stuff (not saying I disliked Chris' story, just that it was incredibly visceral).jomar said:
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Why are people always looking for a way around the rules here? The rules are in place for a reason. Why should you be the exception? What makes you so special? How about just sticking to the guidelines like everybody else?
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tickledkitty said:Why are people always looking for a way around the rules here? The rules are in place for a reason. Why should you be the exception? What makes you so special? How about just sticking to the guidelines like everybody else?
I don't know if that's the case here yet.
He has other stories on Lit.
I'm in wait-and-see mode.
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He's not looking for a way around the rules, TK, he's looking for hints on how to conform to them so that he can get his story accepted.tickledkitty said:Why are people always looking for a way around the rules here? The rules are in place for a reason. Why should you be the exception? What makes you so special? How about just sticking to the guidelines like everybody else?
*pets the kitty*
Not looking for a way around...
I'm not looking for a way around the rules...I just want to understand what it is about my story that they object to. Have you actually read some of the stuff they do accept? I'm not lying when I say this is very mild in comparison. I just would like some suggestions as to what they might be objecting to so I can correct it and get this story approved. No need to be rude.
I'm not looking for a way around the rules...I just want to understand what it is about my story that they object to. Have you actually read some of the stuff they do accept? I'm not lying when I say this is very mild in comparison. I just would like some suggestions as to what they might be objecting to so I can correct it and get this story approved. No need to be rude.
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2lips4u said:
I think you're running into the difference between a rape fantasy and a rapist fantasy; LIT publishes the former, but will reject the latter.
The difference is often mis-represented as "the victim has to enjoy it" or "if she has an orgasm, it's OK." The difference is much harder to define/explain than such simplistic cliches.
I think the closest I can come is to say that a rapist is aroused by the violence/violation/pain of the victim rather than by the sexual aspect.
Ask yourself if your story is about the violence/violation/pain, or if it's about the sex.
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Well, I just now read it-- it is not violent, there is no pain, there isn't much in the way of humiliation. It's the sweetest, most loving non-con I've ever read.
IF your original story was twice as violent and humiliating as this second version-- it still wouldn't be half as hardcore as, for instance, Freddie_Clegg's, or Dr.Mabeuse's stories. In fact, I think that the non-con readers will find it too vanilla! Not to mention the loving Wives cat...
Sheesh, the editors must not be getting enough sleep these days...
IF your original story was twice as violent and humiliating as this second version-- it still wouldn't be half as hardcore as, for instance, Freddie_Clegg's, or Dr.Mabeuse's stories. In fact, I think that the non-con readers will find it too vanilla! Not to mention the loving Wives cat...
Sheesh, the editors must not be getting enough sleep these days...
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Stella_Omega said:Well, I just now read it-- it is not violent, there is no pain, there isn't much in the way of humiliation. It's the sweetest, most loving non-con I've ever read.
IF your original story was twice as violent and humiliating as this second version-- it still wouldn't be half as hardcore as, for instance, Freddie_Clegg's, or Dr.Mabeuse's stories. In fact, I think that the non-con readers will find it too vanilla! Not to mention the loving Wives cat...
Sheesh, the editors must not be getting enough sleep these days...
Agreed.
The paragraphs are very long, but it certainly isn't too violent.
No clue why it was rejected.
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Stella_Omega said:
Damn, was I that crabby earlier? Ok...I apologize.
*purrs and rubs against Stella's legs*
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You improve by changing rules
I think it is a shame the way this site runs from the threat of the censors. If you spend so much time re-writing to avoid beiong censored, you are censored. Have we accepted that this is not a free country? We should always hope for more freedom.
If everybody was as impressed with following rules, not because they are right but because they wanted to avoid trouble, think where we would be.
Changing rules and making this a better site should be the number one job for those of us who love this place.
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tickledkitty said:Why are people always looking for a way around the rules here? The rules are in place for a reason. Why should you be the exception? What makes you so special? How about just sticking to the guidelines like everybody else?
I think it is a shame the way this site runs from the threat of the censors. If you spend so much time re-writing to avoid beiong censored, you are censored. Have we accepted that this is not a free country? We should always hope for more freedom.
If everybody was as impressed with following rules, not because they are right but because they wanted to avoid trouble, think where we would be.
Changing rules and making this a better site should be the number one job for those of us who love this place.
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Perhaps, but considering the country this site is posted from if Laurel and Manu aren't careful they'll be shut down so fast it'll leave a 'pop' behind.
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mikey2much said:
Um, actually, I was thinking more along the lines of following the rules so we can keep this place that we love.
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Considering the country is supposed to be free
I think it is a slipperly slope to start giving the right to censor to anybody. I think Political correctness has been very costly as far as freedom of speech goes.
In the scouries thread in the story feedback forum he avocates charging to post the stories. I am against that but for a one dollar, one time membership fee we could turn this into a members only site. Wouldn't that protect us from this type of censorship.
Just wondering.
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I think it is a slipperly slope to start giving the right to censor to anybody. I think Political correctness has been very costly as far as freedom of speech goes.
In the scouries thread in the story feedback forum he avocates charging to post the stories. I am against that but for a one dollar, one time membership fee we could turn this into a members only site. Wouldn't that protect us from this type of censorship.
Just wondering.
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mikey2much said:
The returns on a one dollar membership would be minuscule compared to the advertising revenue the site would lose in denying 'free' traffic.
This censorship you speak of, despite proclamations of federal enforcement, is as far as I know bound only by the personal judgement of Laurel and Manu. It's their site, their servers, they say what goes.
If this was my site I wouldn't allow snuff, non-consent, paedophilia, horror, non-human or inter-racial.
(I simply wouldn't have a category where the motive behind a story was interracial, not actually banish inter-racial characters.)
So you can 'free speech' all you like, at the end of the day (and beginning and middle of the day too) Laurel and Manu have veto. The End.
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I could have been clearer, but the out of bounds stuff is what I was referring to when I said his story may be more than what Lit is comfortable with. I don't read NC much so don't have a feel for how violent or whatever the stories get.
Maybe 2lips4u should just resubmit and hope third time's the charm. I changed one word in a rejected story and it was accepted. It must have just been the editor that day.
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any luck PMing Laurel? Just present your case, logically and straightforward, and see what happens...
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SelenaKittyn said:
That's what I would do, PM Laurel, she's always responded promptly to me when I had a question about one of my stories.
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s des Snuff is a deal-killer
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//think you're running into the difference between a rape fantasy and a rapist fantasy; LIT publishes the former, but will reject the latter.//
not true.
on snuff, see, for example, the "Born Evil" series, beginning with:
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=140502
(unofficially speaking).
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MORAL-- Make it more of a 'horror' story.
weird h
//think you're running into the difference between a rape fantasy and a rapist fantasy; LIT publishes the former, but will reject the latter.//
not true.
on snuff, see, for example, the "Born Evil" series, beginning with:
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=140502
(unofficially speaking).
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MORAL-- Make it more of a 'horror' story.
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