Women Only: Good girl/Bad girl

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It might be outmoded and silly, but I sometimes think (torture myself) in these terms:

Good Girl:
Selective
Chaste
Romantic
Monogamous
Sensual
Turned on only by the man she loves

Bad Girl:
Promiscous
Fucklusty
Pervy
Easy
Cockslutty
Turned on by a wide variety of stimuli

Forgot to add a poll. So - do these terms mean anything to you? and does anyone know how to add a poll after the fact?
 
eventually, in spite of what our mothers taught us, what society says, we will be able to choose for ourselves, to validate our sexuality, without labels, without scorn from those who have learned to think a certain way. When that day comes I will be ready with my perspective, with my life, because I am living my choices now. My choices encompass all aspects of enjoyment, without labels. And when those "should" or "should not" feelings surface, I choose, not according to what someone else wants or says or feels I should, think, act or say, I choose according to me, and I validate myself.
 
ForeverNAlways said:
One of the hardest and most rewarding realizations any woman can come to.
but well worth the fight, in my experience so far.
 
perks said:
eventually, in spite of what our mothers taught us, what society says, we will be able to choose for ourselves, to validate our sexuality, without labels, without scorn from those who have learned to think a certain way. When that day comes I will be ready with my perspective, with my life, because I am living my choices now. My choices encompass all aspects of enjoyment, without labels. And when those "should" or "should not" feelings surface, I choose, not according to what someone else wants or says or feels I should, think, act or say, I choose according to me, and I validate myself.
It sounds good to me - all of it. I say the same kinds of things myself, and if sex was masturbation and fantasy, I think I'd have no conflicts anymore.

But when it comes to being involved with another person, or other persons, it seems like it is very hard to reconcile these two sides and make that all work.
 
I've always felt torn between these two concepts.

For myself, it tends to work out that I remain "the good girl" at all times, except when in the bedroom, where I crave being "the bad girl." Sometimes, I feel like it's all an elaborate act, and rather exhausting.
 
ForeverNAlways said:
Good girl vs. Bad girl.

On a more serious note, I'd say that for me, it's about deciding not to be a "girl" at all ~ but rather a woman. I can be all of those things. In fact, I don't think I'd be completely myself if I wasn't. That doesn't mean that the stereotypes we've been bombarded with as women don't plague the mind with doubts and guilt.

And Perks... the validating yourself is well-worth it, It just took me until my mid-thirties to figure it out, and I'm still struggling with it. :)
I thought someone might comment on the choice of "girl". I'm conscious of the terms I'm using. As a whole human being, I think of myself as a woman, not a girl. But in the powerful emotions around sexuality and my relationships with men, words like 'girl' touch on the feelings, not the rational arguments. That's what I'm interested in.

The men I'm most drawn to would not want to share me with anyone else. If I was fully in love, I'd accept that. But I don't know if and when I'll be in love to that level, and my sexual freedom means so much to me now. Even very openminded men feel very differently about women who are not exclusively involved with them. Have any of you lost a relationship that was important to you over this?
 
Olivia_Yearns said:
It might be outmoded and silly, but I sometimes think (torture myself) in these terms:

Good Girl:
Selective
Chaste
Romantic
Sensual
Turned on only by the man she loves

I am none of these things and yet, I am still a good girl.

Just ask Kobalt.
 
bisexplicit said:
I've always felt torn between these two concepts.

For myself, it tends to work out that I remain "the good girl" at all times, except when in the bedroom, where I crave being "the bad girl." Sometimes, I feel like it's all an elaborate act, and rather exhausting.
Ok, I can follow this. what about when you're single? Who gets into the bedroom?
 
Lushisss said:
I am none of these things and yet, I am still a good girl.

Just ask Kobalt.
Have I ever mentioned that if I woke up one morning and discovered I had turned into a man, I would immediately begin stalking you and begging you for pics. I'm sure you're very good.

Sometimes it is exactly my sluttyness that turns me on.

Deep down, I'm very shallow. (I stole that line)
 
Olivia_Yearns said:
Have I ever mentioned that if I woke up one morning and discovered I had turned into a man, I would immediately begin stalking you and begging you for pics.
You wouldn't need to beg. Promise.
Olivia_Yearns said:
I'm sure you're very good.
Sometimes it is exactly my sluttyness that turns me on.
Good girls do the baddest things and are hardly tarnished when the act is complete.
Olivia_Yearns said:
Deep down, I'm very shallow. (I stole that line)
Heh.
Most of us are!
 
Olivia_Yearns said:
It might be outmoded and silly, but I sometimes think (torture myself) in these terms:

Good Girl:
Selective
Chaste
Romantic
Monogamous
Sensual
Turned on only by the man she loves

Bad Girl:
Promiscous
Fucklusty
Pervy
Easy
Cockslutty
Turned on by a wide variety of stimuli

Forgot to add a poll. So - do these terms mean anything to you? and does anyone know how to add a poll after the fact?
I would definately fall under the good girl definitions. The longer I go without sex the more I realise that I might very well eventually chose to sleep with somebody that I don't love or plan to be with forever but I don't think I could ever go out and sleep with a bunch of random people...that's just not me and I wouldn't want to be that way anyway. Also, if the tables were turned I wouldn't want to sleep with somebody who was sleeping with a bunch of other people.
 
I'm surprised people have actually been respectful of the women only thing thus far....


....what?

*innocent*
 
EternalWinter said:
I'm surprised people have actually been respectful of the women only thing thus far....


....what?

*innocent*
If you guys show up, the thread will get fluffy and flirty. Sometimes I wish there was a little "women only" corner in lit, and a "men only" section too. Just for a different kind of conversation.
 
Flyin_Free said:
I would definately fall under the good girl definitions. The longer I go without sex the more I realise that I might very well eventually chose to sleep with somebody that I don't love or plan to be with forever but I don't think I could ever go out and sleep with a bunch of random people...that's just not me and I wouldn't want to be that way anyway. Also, if the tables were turned I wouldn't want to sleep with somebody who was sleeping with a bunch of other people.
I wouldn't want to get slutty with a bunch of random people. I'm sensitive and picky and very particular. But I find I can feel lust towards more then one man. I don't know if I could be physical with more then one partner. But I can certainly feel the desire. And I am almost exclusively attracted to men who want to have all of me to themselves. Or maybe that's all men.
 
Olivia_Yearns said:
If you guys show up, the thread will get fluffy and flirty. Sometimes I wish there was a little "women only" corner in lit, and a "men only" section too. Just for a different kind of conversation.
let this last for a little bit longer, there is such good thoughts in here.
 
perks said:
eventually, in spite of what our mothers taught us, what society says, we will be able to choose for ourselves, to validate our sexuality, without labels, without scorn from those who have learned to think a certain way. When that day comes I will be ready with my perspective, with my life, because I am living my choices now. My choices encompass all aspects of enjoyment, without labels. And when those "should" or "should not" feelings surface, I choose, not according to what someone else wants or says or feels I should, think, act or say, I choose according to me, and I validate myself.
Perks, have you been able to have all that you want without conflict with partner(s) and without internal conflict? Can you elaborate?
 
Most definitely a good girl. Maybe too much? I like to look but in a relationship I tend to focus on him. Monogamy is my middle name ...
 
ForeverNAlways said:
I wasn't picking at your word choice, I hope you know. :rose: It was more a differential for my own benefit, for definition.

It's hard for me to answer the single part, although I guess once my divorce is final, I'll get to put that to the test. Having been married for seventeen years, the question of good vs. bad has a slightly different connotation ~ and still relevant I think. Once a mother and a wife for a number of years, you start to leave some of your more lustful urges and thoughts behind. "It's not proper"... etc.

I will always be exclusively involved with someone once I'm in love with them and the relationship has reached that point. However, I will not ever again abandon the woman inside of me that can fantasize and explore the range of her sexuality, even if only in her mind.

Sexual freedom can mean many things ~ not all of them acted upon. And your situation and your choices about how much, or how you express that freedom, have to just be right for you.
Thank you for this, FnA.

I was with one man, married, for a long long time. I loved being his. I had fantasies of some stuff, 'cause I was pervier in some ways. But sexually, I felt very good with him. If you're at all like me, you'll find that being single is MUCH more complicated. And more complicated then it was in my twenties, too. My drive is even stronger now, and I don't believe in love in the innocent and uncomplicated way I did then. I think I can give myself sexually to the right man, but I don't know if I will be able to give myself so completely on other levels. And ... I'm lustier.
 
butterscotch_ said:
Most definitely a good girl. Maybe too much? I like to look but in a relationship I tend to focus on him. Monogamy is my middle name ...
I like your butt....whoops!
 
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