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I am pleased to announce that Mr. Ketkun (Ryan) has donated 150 GB Bandwidth, 3.8 Storage + Cpanel to our cause.

There will be much development over the next couple weeks.
We still need a vBulltein license, a spiffy domain, as well as a great staff so don't be afraid to PM me if you'd like to volunteer. :kiss:

 
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Brinnie said:

ATTENTION!​


Those of you using my Photobucket to host your Free Speech Coalition banners, might noticed we've killed my bandwidth. :D

It's not all your fault, I've got em on other boards too. So I made an album just for Literotica:
http://photobucket.com/albums/a198/literotica/

Let's get those updated.
Need any help, drop me a line.
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Mine is on my own photobucket. That's sad, that folks would use yours.
 
cantdog said:
Mine is on my own photobucket. That's sad, that folks would use yours.
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Meh... I don't blame thim, afterall it's free.

Some folks here don't even know how to put an image in their sig at all.
 
cantdog said:
Okay. Sorry i spoke. Your 2259 or whatever is a new one on me. Hulder and the Earl are not Americans. They like free speech too, but they shouldn't have to spurt stars and stripes to support it. You're such a hater, Brin.

P. S. I like nudity
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The Free Speech Coalition is not like, for example, Amnesty International. It is focused on lobbying one sovereign government and its constituencies: that and those of the United States of America.

It's focus is on the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution. I understand your point of view. In fact, I agree. Free speech has been proven, through trial and error, to be the fundamental requirement when approaching any kind of fair representative government; which most of the world's governments today now champion, at least superficially.

On the other side of the argument, however, is that the Free Speech Coalition is a fundamentally American organization, formed to deal with American politics, and advance what they believe to be and American ideal insofar as it is professed in the American Constitution.

Therefore, I shouldn't fault them their choice of color scheme.

Mind you, Brinnie could have been a little more conciliatory in her rebuttal, but that's not the Brinnie we know and love.

Perhaps if you were to view the FSC as a lobbying group active in the USA (which is all it is, really) then you would not have personal objection with flying a banner with evident American colors.

And, let's not forget that Red/White/Blue is the most common color scheme on the planet when it comes to national banners.
 
Brinnie said:

If LIT was based in the UK and the UK laws came crashing down on LIT, I would support a UK based organization that opposes it. Just as in the same turn, I support a free Iraq. I don't judge the citizens of an entire country based on their leader.
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Couldn't agree more. Lit's coming under fire from U.S. laws and U.S. government officials. I'll proudly support anything that fights for the betterment of Literotica.
 
niceguys1st said:
Couldn't agree more. Lit's coming under fire from U.S. laws and U.S. government officials. I'll proudly support anything that fights for the betterment of Literotica.
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Better bring on the heat soon, because the whole internet's going under fire.
 
So sad when one answers what they want. What happened here? TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH? Guess we have none? LEARN a lesson from your own give and never take, love.
 
As I said, how long until we all have to keep 2257 records on the content we download off the interw3b? :p
 
Except that I have removed the nauseating pink colour of the type, so it can be read more clearly, I have changed nothing in these two rprinted posts..

cantdog said:
I wrote the site a note, the Free Speech people, asking for a less American-specific banner:
Free speech is hardly an American invention, nor an American problem solely. Being on the web, you will have noticed that it is not populated solely by Americans, either. Indeed, in a country, like Egypt for one example, where the press is subject to government censorship, the ability to publish a freer Web edition of a paper, as Al-Ahram does, is of incalculable value to the Egyptian citizenry.

Your banners are very specific to the United States. Since free speech is of value to so many around the world, could you not redesign? Look up from the parochial. Your movement can only become the more powerful if it evolves in to something international, don't you think?
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That was mine. I was hoping maybe if some more Americans asked nicely, they might lay off the stars and stripes a little and gain some support from the rest of the world.

I was asking for maybe some help. One note does not make a big impression, sometimes.
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Brinnie said:
At this point, I don't think your worthy to sport the banner. NO WHERE did the Free Speech Coilation say "Free Speech is an American invention". And if/when they email you back, they're going to say "What the fuck are you talking about?"


Literotica Online, a US based operation is under fire by US laws. Not Mexican, not Hungarian or Egyptian, but US... (maybe you haven't heard about 2257... I don't know.)

But I'll tell you one thing, If LIT was based in the UK and the UK laws came crashing down on LIT, I would support a UK based organization that opposes it. Just as in the same turn, I support a free Iraq. I don't judge the citizens of an entire country based on their leader.

I try to see it from your angle, but these people... Are liberals! They're against Ashcroft, Bush and the like. What the hell is so twisted in your head that clouds your mind from making a morally good judgemnt?

So... You're very welcome. :kiss:​
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Now Cantdog is one of the nicest, most intelligent people on this board. He not only made a pertinent observation, he also wrote an intelligent letter to correct the perceived problem, and provided others with a sample, from which they could either crib, or copy outright.

Even if the factual content of Brinnie’s response were spot-on accurate, which it is not, the form of her public communication is one of the most outrageous combinations of effrontery and snottiness that it has been my misfortune to see, originating from someone who claims an association with a public relations campaign.

I don’t know what Brinnie’s real status is in the organization — I rather suspect she has none, beyond a free membership — but I am certain that if she had, and the above exchange came to the attention of the coordinators, they would order her to desist, and at best, assign her to duties where her astringent tongue and septic manners would not further hinder their cause.

For those who wish to be active, I reccommend that they deal directly with the Free Speech Coalition , rather than depending upon Brinnie’s threads as a public relations conduit.

Quite frankly, I am not certain she is a reliable source, since she does not even know how to conduct herself in public.
 
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Virtual_Burlesque said:
Except that I have removed the nauseating pink colour of the type, so it can be read more clearly, I have changed nothing in these two rprinted posts..

Now Cantdog is one of the nicest, most intelligent people on this board. He not only made a pertinent observation, he also wrote an intelligent letter to correct the perceived problem, and provided others with a sample, from which they could either crib, or copy outright.

Even if the factual content of Brinnie’s response were spot-on accurate, which it is not, the form of her public communication is one of the most outrageous combinations of effrontery and snottiness that it has been my misfortune to see, originating from someone who claims an association with a public relations campaign...
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Oh honey, you havn't even begin to see outragious...

But this point, I'm afraid it's too late for an "anti-brinnie' campaign. I am an Existential Force...

toodles. :kiss:
 
Brinnie said:
Oh honey, you havn't even begin to see outragious...
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I suspected as much.

That was my objection to others depending upon you as their representative to what I agree is an important cause.

Your function in life seems better fulfilled providing a definition for Chocolate Fountains. :D
 
So What's New?

Virtual_Burlesque said:
I suspected as much.

That was my objection to others depending upon you as their representative to what I agree is an important cause.

Your function in life seems better fulfilled providing a definition for Chocolate Fountains. :D
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MY function serves it's purpose... You're just wanting to fight.

EVERYONE HERE knows that I'm not a free speech lawyer. Just as,
EVERYONE HERE knows that Google is just a click away. :) And,
ANYONE HERE who should be so inclined to give a shit about 2257 and their rights- will look further into. You... (to put it simply) have not.


To have the nerve to imply: "Brinnie runs her mouth off all day = she isn't a good free speech representative" when the last decade of free speech figures have been Eminem; Marilyn Manson; Larry Flynt; Howard Stern, etc..., is pathetic.

Are they lawers? NO!

So how the fuck does your logic work out? It's irrelevant. Anyone- AND EVERYONE- should fight the good fight...

Moving right along...


People need motivation and awareness. Public ignorance is how these laws get passed in the first place. And that's what I bring them. Someone's gotta sit here and read Yahoo news all day waiting for the latest 2257 update to feed you your daily dose.

Is it you? NO!


Do have you even have a clue what's going on in Hong Kong, right now? Do you care? I mean, what the fuck do you know? Do you do anything for free speech? Anything other than blast people who freely donate their time to fight for...
I'm just gonna say it: NO!

And the next time we meet, don't expect a letter from Brinnie self addressed to you. While I'm running by, I might wave at you while your sitting at the crossroads, but I don't have time to sit here and address petty questions when the end is near and everything you've said has allready been addressed OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I have said multiple times that I'm not a fucking lawyer. YOU just want to be the one to say it... And that says a lot about your character.



Though I must give credit where it's deserved, it was a nice attempt at cock-blocking :O

Toodles.
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Believe me Brinnie, I never suspected that you were a lawyer. I don’t wish to speak for others, but do feel confident that very few of them suspected you were, either. Nor that you had any experience representing a service or product to the public. In fact, I can imagine no position where your mouth would be tolerated for long, other than in a sheltered workshop for sufferers of Tourettes Syndrome.

Comparing yourself to Eminem, Marilyn Manson, Larry Flynt, and Howard Stern only further exposes your delusion. They all had careers which earn them their livelihood, which the have occasionally put on the line in their skirmishes with censorship — in Flynt’s case, he actually paid with his physical mobility, although that wasn’t precisely the work of censors, but rather one of the lunatics who encourage censorship.

I agree with you, neither they nor you are lawyers — now, what is your point?

I agree, people need motivation, and when motivated need encouragement and coordination, which brings back to mind your response to Cantdog’s suggestion:

At this point, I don't think your worthy to sport the banner. . . . And if/when they email you back, they're going to say "What the fuck are you talking about?" . . . What the hell is so twisted in your head that clouds your mind from making a morally good judgement?

Was that your concept of motivation, encouragement, or coordination? If it was, are you certain that you understand the definitions of those words?

I am always the first to agree that there are undoubtedly things going on in the world, about which, I am uninformed. Amongst those many items that I am in ignorance of, it is quite possible that you are aware of at least one of them. So, under different circumstances, I would be willing to accept your tutelage.

In this case, the situation in contention is serious for anybody who values free speech, and you have demonstrated yourself to be monstrously inept at maintaining the smallest amount of servility necessary when dealing with a public campaign, and on another thread displayed a contemptible willingness to corrupt whatever cachet your assumed authority defers, to attack others in a pique over a private issue.

Therefore, I have deemed you both unfit and unreliable as a local spokesperson for the FREE SPEECH COALITION and recommend that anyone seriously interested in supporting the cause get their information directly from the online site: here.
 
God, you're dumb as a brick. :rolleyes:
Virtual_Burlesque said:
I agree, people need motivation, and when motivated need encouragement and coordination, which brings back to mind your response to Cantdog’s suggestion:
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Virtual_Burlesque said:
At this point, I don't think your worthy to sport the banner. . . . And if/when they email you back, they're going to say "What the fuck are you talking about?" . . . What the hell is so twisted in your head that clouds your mind from making a morally good judgement?
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That was MY fucking post... Not Cantdog's

Virtual_Burlesque said:
Therefore, I have deemed you both unfit and unreliable as a local spokesperson for the FREE SPEECH COALITION and bla bla bla...
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Who in the...? Bitch, I deed YOU unsuitable!
All you're worth is a half-ass flame war. And you're up here trying to roll punches with the best. :rolleyes: With your fucking bold text... Fucking punk. Get a job.
 
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