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My take on the Saudi Arabia issue.

bellisarius said:
Well, there's a problem there. The Iranians are only allies of convenience in that they too are hell bent on wiping out the Kurds. The Turks are Sunni, the Iranians are Shia'. When they've finished exterminating the Kurds they're going to turn on each other. Isn't Mid-East politics fascinating?
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Of course, we could encourage the emergence of an independent Kurdistan, including Turkish Kurdistan, as a buffer state between them.

As it stands now, Kurdish Rojava is the nearest thing to a good guy in the entire Syrian Civil War.
 
Desiremakesmeweak said:
According to the independent Stockholm Center, there are currently 245 journalists detained in Turkey by the government of Recep Erdogan. There are 15,000 others there, including teachers, police, firemen and post-men currently under detention without internationally-recognized legal trials or charges.

Anyone? Anyone? ...crickets.

Somebody wanted 'proof' or maybe 'evidence' that Jimmy Khashoggi is a spokesperson and high-level strategist for the Muslim Brotherhood - for a start, there are extensive videos of him extolling both Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood and outright declaring that 9/11 was categorically conducted by Al Qaeda and no others especially not any Jews, and this he did well before anyone in the US Administration's formal Inquiry confirmed these things. Further, he was the only person to personally interview Osama bin Laden at his secret camp when bin Laden was the head of Al Qaeda and he was engaged as the go-between and negotiator for Saudi Arabia and other parties including the UK government, and Al Qaeda and the militia arms of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Secretary General OF the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammad al-Massari, recently gave an interview to Al Jazeera in which he claims Jamal Khashoggi as his personal friend and colleague.

There are no logical reasons to jump to any particular conclusions right now about what may, or may not have transpired regarding the disappearance of Jimmy Khashoggi, and there are too many players involved in the geo-strategic/geo-political aspects of the matter to assume that one story or another carries any more weight than the story about this guy 'Jesus of Nazareth' who was also said to have been gruesomely and brutally murdered by Romans and Arabs a couple of thousand years ago - unless I can see where he was crucified, and plunge my own fingers into the bloody wounds, and in the case of this particular Khashoggi, feel around the sliced off part of his neck and head and look at his lifeless head and his dismembered body parts, I shall continue to assume that a fat guy with emphysema and a heart condition could easily choke and die of his own accord from a heart attack at any moment.

...Bearing in mind that traditionally, 'dissidents' like Jesus Christ, and Spartacus, have had their names taken in vain for political purposes - often, and by most unscrupulous and unsavory creatures too, of which Recep Erdogan is certainly one outstanding example.
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There is no tagline here other than "journalist" and US Citizen."

I've tried to address both, but in the age of #NothingTrump, it has fallen on deaf ears interpreted as Trump Apologist.
 
bellisarius said:
The new crown prince seems to be gravitating towards the school of the Mu'tazilah. If so this is necessarily going to bring about profound change in the underlying Islamic philosophy.
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How? What religious influence does he have outside SA?
 
Kirkrapine said:
What makes you think Khashoggi had any connection to the MB?

Of course, it is not at all surprising that this Admin will not stick its neck out to get justice for a WaPo reporter.
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I've posted links from the beginning of this issue.

Why is it that you have never explored them or explored any information from other that which feeds you what you want to hear? You're here posting more hours a day than I am, why haven't you taken some time into actually looking into who the guy was other than the mainstream anti-Trump, anti-Saudi, anti-Israel screed in favor of the saint "journalist/American Citizen?"
 
SpeareChucker said:
I've posted links from the beginning of this issue.

Why is it that you have never explored them or explored any information from other that which feeds you what you want to hear? You're here posting more hours a day than I am, why haven't you taken some time into actually looking into who the guy was other than the mainstream anti-Trump, anti-Saudi, anti-Israel screed in favor of the saint "journalist/American Citizen?"
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Why do you think any of that matters here?!
 
I was gonna say

I dont understand why


But I shouldnt say I DONT UNDERSTAND


So the question is

Why the fuck does the "death" of this FAT FUCK elicit all this SHIT and when MUSLIMS kill 50 in Florida and 13 in SF and MORE and kill in EuroPUKE and Canada etc etc


ITS WHITE MEN THAT ARE BLAMED AND NEVER MUSLIMS??????????
 
HisArpy said:
You fell into the same pit that pilot did - that because he was "X" he was also "Y".

The issue isn't whether he should or shouldn't be "protected", as you put it. It's that you CANNOT USE FALSE FACTS TO SUPPORT YOUR POSITION.

He was not a US Citizen. Saying he is because he's "almost" a US citizen, or that permanent residents can serve in the military is meaningless. He was NOT a US citizen.

Saying he was a US citizen in order to bolster your argument means that at least part of your argument is based on a lie. The rest of the argument MAY be true (he was killed etc. etc. etc.) but the part about him being a US citizen is not true. Your vitriol led you to a point where you could not separate truth from fiction (no surprise there) and you used that point of no return to attack someone as if they were part of the assassination team. And then you blamed Trump for all of it.
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AND... She conveniently chooses to ignore the fact that whoever killed him (within the grounds of a foreign consulate) in all likelihood held diplomatic immunity.

But, gee, she wouldn't let a little thing like that get in the way of HER standard of "justice." Nawwww.
 
Meanwhile

This is CURIOUS

(despite saying that have AUDIO and VIDEO)

Turkey: Why No, We’re Not Sharing Recording Or Transcript Of Khashoggi Murder With US

:cool:In fact, the Turks won’t even confirm that such a recording exists now:


So the reality is

We dont have a clue what happened to the FAT FUCK
 
I see the resident Lit right-wing "legal experts" are stepping in to defend the latest assault on human rights by dictators.


Nothing new here. Move along...
 
coati said:
I see the resident Lit right-wing "legal experts" are stepping in to defend the latest assault on human rights by dictators.


Nothing new here. Move along...
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Why don't you trot your ass over there and just give them 'what for.' I'd even start a "Go Fund Me" page to pay for your air fare.
 
so what would the NIGGERS have us do over a MISHAP to a FAT FUCK

sanction SA?

and they then PULL back oil....sending the world economy into a tailspin?

really, NIGGERS???????????????????



:rolleyes:
 
BBX50 said:
so what would the NIGGERS have us do over a MISHAP to a FAT FUCK

sanction SA?

and they then PULL back oil....sending the world economy into a tailspin?

really, NIGGERS???????????????????



:rolleyes:
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Never let a crises go to waste. ;) ;)
 
BBX50 said:
so what would the NIGGERS have us do over a MISHAP to a FAT FUCK

sanction SA?

and they then PULL back oil....sending the world economy into a tailspin?

really, NIGGERS???????????????????



:rolleyes:
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Democrats apparently want $200 a barrel oil.
 
SpeareChucker said:
Explain why, to you, none of it matters.
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He was a U.S. permanent resident and a reporter for an American newspaper; that is enough to make this the government's business, and Kashoggi's politics WRT the MB makes no difference whatever in any of that.
 
seriously

what do the NIGGERS want to do

The NIGGERS INCLUDE the REPOZ......:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Colonel Hogan said:
AND... She conveniently chooses to ignore the fact that whoever killed him (within the grounds of a foreign consulate) in all likelihood held diplomatic immunity.
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Which would not excuse the murder, but, to the contrary, make it an act of war.
 
Kirkrapine said:
He was a U.S. permanent resident and a reporter for an American newspaper; that is enough to make this the government's business, and Kashoggi's politics WRT the MB makes no difference whatever in any of that.
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This NIGGER has me on IGGY

Someone AXE hom what we should do and what THAT would accomplish
 
Kirkrapine said:
He was a U.S. permanent resident and a reporter for an American newspaper; that is enough to make this the government's business, and Kashoggi's politics WRT the MB makes no difference whatever in any of that.
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What action do you think Trump should be taking right now?
 
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