The Department of Government Efficiency (aka DOGE)

[Politruk]

Unless, of course, Trump and Musk are Manchurians...

Controlled by whom?

 

[UltraChad]

Says someone who daily calls people commies. What's the law invocation regarding right-wing projection?

Because they are.

Also if he was projecting with that, he wouldn't be right wing. LOL

OK, explain how 75% of a sample of random numbers can be both odd and even, Turing.

Who is claiming that it is? MSNBC??

 

[UltraChad]

Facts are facts.

Somehow it never does turn out to be liberation -- it didn't in the 1980s.

It always turns out to be liberation. 100% of the time.

What kind of crack are you smoking???

 

[Politruk]

Facts are facts.

Calling Dems "race socialists" is not factual. Or honest.

 

[Politruk]

It always turns out to be liberation. 100% of the time.

What kind of crack are you smoking???

It didn't in the 1980s -- nobody but the rich was any better off for Reagan's tax cuts.

Nor for Trump's.

 

[UltraChad]

Calling Dems "race socialists" is not factual. Or honest.

It absolutely is. That's what all their equity along racial demographic lines is about.

Almost everything they do/see is through the lens of racial equity. If you replaced their obsession with racial inequity with class inequity they'd sound no different than Marxist.

It didn't in the 1980s -- nobody but the rich was any better off for Reagan's tax cuts.

Nor for Trump's.

Liberty is not economic equity....fucking commie retard. literally the opposite.

Liberty is not having the governments boot on your throat preventing you from obtaining some equity. Like you support oppressing everyone with.

 

[Politruk]

Liberty is not an income level or economic equity....fucking commie retard.

Nobody was any freer for those tax cuts either.

 

[UltraChad]

Nobody was any freer for those tax cuts either.

NOT stealing peoples labor/property makes them literally more free.

 

[Politruk]

NOT stealing peoples labor/property makes them literally more free.

There is no freedom worth having in Somalia.

 

[UltraChad]

There is no freedom worth having in Somalia.

What's Somalia got to do with it??

Not stealing peoples labor/property makes them more free. That's a fact.

 

[Bray123]

Because they are.

Also if he was projecting with that, he wouldn't be right wing. LOL



Who is claiming that it is? MSNBC??

I was correct. You haven't been paying attention.

 

[Politruk]

What's Somalia got to do with it??

No taxes means no government. Take away government and you don't get Libertopia. You don't get Rapture. You don't get Galt's Gulch. You get Somalia.

 

[UltraChad]

I was correct. You haven't been paying attention.

LOL no you weren't. You listened to some bullshit and are acting like it's the word of god again....it's like no matter how many times you lefties get burnt by that you never learn.

 

[UltraChad]

No taxes means no government.

Nope...USA had a government for a long time before the IRS came along and started rat fucking the working class.

Showering the rest of the planet in bombs and cash prizes at the working class's expense isn't necessary for there to be a government.

ake away government and you don't get Libertopia. You don't get Rapture. You don't get Galt's Gulch. You get Somalia.

So you have no idea what Somalia is like.

Nor do you understand liberalism.

Same as it ever was.

 

[Politruk]

Nope...USA had a government for a long time before the IRS came along and started rat fucking the working class.

It always had taxes. Tariffs fucked the working class by raising retail prices -- but they were necessary.

So you have no idea what Somalia is like.

The whole world knows what Somalia is like, and no sane person wants where they live to be anything like it.

 

[UltraChad]

It always had taxes.

But not on labor and property or to access the markets.

All that oppressive shit that you're into.

Tariffs fucked the working class by raising retail prices -- but they were necessary.

And fair.

The whole world knows what Somalia is like, and no sane person wants where they live to be anything like it.

Actually most THINK they know, but they don't actually know. Look just how off base you are.

You think Somalia is a liberal nation??
https://media2.giphy.com/media/bjB3gtFvREqqr5NAHW/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952g6hj4rl38516wvqwt93frjubx5h55nuqw5qluhac&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

 

[Politruk]

And fair.

Tariffs are not a fair form of taxes. Their impact is regressive, not progressive -- it falls hardest in those least able to afford it. Same with sales tax. Income tax is really better than anything else.

 

[UltraChad]

Tariffs are not a fair form of taxes.

Of course they are, everyone pays the same.

Their impact is regressive, not progressive

That's got nothing to do with fair or equal.

. Income tax is really better than anything else.

Oppression is not better than anything else.

My labor belongs to me not the collective.

God willing we will move closer towards reclaiming our right to our labor and property in the coming years now that the race socialist got rejected.

 

[Politruk]

Of course they are, everyone pays the same.



That's got nothing to do with fair or equal.



Oppression is not better than anything else.

My labor belongs to me not the collective.

God willing we will move closer towards reclaiming our right to our labor and property in the coming years now that the race socialist got rejected.

Even Stalinism is better than your vulgar libertarianism.

 

[UltraChad]

Even Stalinism is better than your vulgar libertarianism.

If it was it wouldn't have lost.

And liberalism isn't libertarianism. I don't understand your need to conflate the two.

 

[Politruk]

If it was it wouldn't have lost.

And liberalism isn't libertarianism. I don't understand your need to conflate the two.

It is you who can perceive no difference. What do you ever defend that the LP would object to?

 

[UltraChad]

It is you who can perceive no difference.

No, it's you who conflate the two.

They are not wildly different in that they share most the same core values and ideas, but they do have their distinctions.

What do you ever defend that the LP would object to?

Having a government run military, borders, law enforcement, courts, interstate infrastructure and resource/energy management as well as interstate/international commerce and trade admin/management.

Libertarians want to privatize or eliminate most of that. Liberals do not. Liberals understand that a certain level of government actually enhances their liberty. They just don't think it should be the totalitarian GOD overlording and dictating every aspect of every persons life from cradle to grave the way you and the other control freak Karen types do.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Musk and Ramaswamy believe that many of the 441 federal agencies that make up the administrative state have promulgated rules that won’t survive legal scrutiny: “DOGE will work with legal experts embedded in government agencies, aided by advanced technology, to apply these [SCOTUS] rulings to federal regulations enacted by such agencies.” This will yield a long list of illegitimate regulations, and how much they cost, which will go to President Trump: “When the president nullifies thousands of such regulations, critics will allege executive overreach.” Musk and Ramaswamy are aware that they will meet enormous resistance. “We are prepared for the onslaught from entrenched interests in Washington.”

They nonetheless believe they can cut federal overspending by “taking aim at the $500 billion plus in annual federal expenditures that are unauthorized by Congress,” and expect to finish the project by July 4, 2026. The big question is, of course, the following: Can DOGE succeed where the Grace Commission and numerous other reform initiatives failed? Neither Elon Musk nor Vivek Ramaswamy are ordinary men. They are smarter and more creative than the denizens of the deep state. Moreover, they will be working with a bold president who doesn’t mind breaking things. Nevertheless, as Ronald Reagan famously phrased it, “A government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.”

David Catron, The American Spectator

 

[AceDesSpades]

Taxpayer Funded Censorship: How Government is Using Your Tax Dollars to Silence Your Voice​

$127M was spent just studying and countering Covid-related speech.​

https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/taxpayer-funded-censorship-how-government



FREE speech

But it wasn't to government.

Government too big, too strong, to be in the hands of

... the other guys, so give it to us.​

 

[Rebel5soul]

Musk and Ramaswamy believe that many of the 441 federal agencies that make up the administrative state have promulgated rules that won’t survive legal scrutiny: “DOGE will work with legal experts embedded in government agencies, aided by advanced technology, to apply these [SCOTUS] rulings to federal regulations enacted by such agencies.” This will yield a long list of illegitimate regulations, and how much they cost, which will go to President Trump: “When the president nullifies thousands of such regulations, critics will allege executive overreach.” Musk and Ramaswamy are aware that they will meet enormous resistance. “We are prepared for the onslaught from entrenched interests in Washington.”

They nonetheless believe they can cut federal overspending by “taking aim at the $500 billion plus in annual federal expenditures that are unauthorized by Congress,” and expect to finish the project by July 4, 2026. The big question is, of course, the following: Can DOGE succeed where the Grace Commission and numerous other reform initiatives failed? Neither Elon Musk nor Vivek Ramaswamy are ordinary men. They are smarter and more creative than the denizens of the deep state. Moreover, they will be working with a bold president who doesn’t mind breaking things. Nevertheless, as Ronald Reagan famously phrased it, “A government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.”

David Catron, The American Spectator

OK, that part is going to be spot on but the really amusing part is that those regs were created by executive overreach to begin with.