Pregnant Pro-life Texas teen suffers "fetal demise", dies from sepsis due to Texas abortion law

[Lance_Castro]

If she could have had an abortion she would still be alive.

Maybe. Nobody knows. You certainly don’t !

Ha ha ha!

 

[icanhelp1]

Funny how the examples here don't show any doctors refusing medical attention to a pregnant woman or denying any abortion service. Only thing being shown is medical misdiagnosis and the pro abortion crowd trying to blame abortion laws for failure of medical experts to realize what the issue really was and not acting quickly enough.

Conflating medical mal-practice with abortion laws.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Another dead trumptard?

Are we to care?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Funny how the examples here don't show any doctors refusing medical attention to a pregnant woman or denying any abortion service.

Funny how you choose to interpret things to meet your preconceived political bias.
Three doctors passed her around like a hot potato, nobody wanted to risk their medical license to the whims of Texas AG Ken Paxton.
From the article:
https://i.imgur.com/1Adt0pU.png

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Maybe. Nobody knows. You certainly don’t !

Ha ha ha!

Doctors know because this is their field of expertise.

Dr. Jodi Abbott, an associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Boston University School of Medicine, said patients are left wondering: “Am I being sent home because I really am OK? Or am I being sent home because they’re afraid that the solution to what’s going on with my pregnancy would be ending the pregnancy, and they’re not allowed to do that?”

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/

 

[Lance_Castro]

Doctors know because this is their field of expertise.

Dr. Jodi Abbott, an associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Boston University School of Medicine, said patients are left wondering…. ( blah blah blah)

Again, You dont know.

Neither does Dr Abbott, who wasn’t there.

Nice try, dum dum.

Lol

 

[Lance_Castro]

Three doctors passed her around like a hot potato

Shitty doctors.

 

[Politruk]

Shitty doctors.

Frightened by shitty laws.

 

[YDB95]

Let's be honest here: You could unearth footage of a doctor saying, "I knew she needed an abortion but I could have gone to jail if I gave her one," and Tasty Suck Toy and Lance Castro would find a way to rationalize it away. It's what they do, everyone here knows that.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Let's be honest here: You could unearth footage of a doctor saying, "I knew she needed an abortion but I could have gone to jail if I gave her one,"

Let us know when you find it. Until then, lefties here pretending they know what the medical staff were thinking and the situation couldn't possibly be something as common as medical misdiagnosis is easily dismissed.

 

[Politruk]

I don't suppose there's any chance Texas will change the law in response to this?

 

[YDB95]

Let us know when you find it. Until then, lefties here pretending they know what the medical staff were thinking and the situation couldn't possibly be something as common as medical misdiagnosis is easily dismissed.

And while we're at it, if you could find a case comparable to this from before Roe was overturned, that would be just dandy.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Shitty doctors.

How do you know that unless you have a medical degree and were there?

 

[YDB95]

How do you know that unless you have a medical degree and were there?

To be completely fair, doctors failing to take women's health problems seriously is a fairly well-known problem. But of course, I don't believe for one minute that Lance or TST give a shit about that.

 

[TastySuckToy]

And while we're at it, if you could find a case comparable to this from before Roe was overturned, that would be just dandy.

You actually believe pregnancy and childbirth issues that could lead to death didn't happen before Roe V Wade. Gotcha.

 

[YDB95]

You actually believe pregnancy and childbirth issues that could lead to death didn't happen before Roe V Wade. Gotcha.

You actually know damn well that is not what I said, and you're not going to address the real issue. Gotcha.

 

[TastySuckToy]

you're not going to address the real issue.

Not playing your dishonest pretend game that pregnancy and childbirth issues causing death didn't happen prior to the end of Roe V Wade.

 

[YDB95]

Not playing your dishonest pretend game that pregnancy and childbirth issues causing death didn't happen prior to the end of Roe V Wade.

No, you're just pretending that was what I argued when it isn't.

The story linked in the OP contains expert testimony that the deceased was denied the care she needed because the doctors in question were afraid of running afoul of Texas' anti-abortion law. The experts know this stuff better than you do. But your response was that the case and others like it "don't show any doctors refusing medical attention to a pregnant woman or denying any abortion service," when in fact that is exactly what this example shows. That's why they did the two medically-unnecessary ultrasounds, to confirm the fetus was already dead and they were in the clear as far as the abortion ban was concerned, before giving her the treatment they knew she needed. That cost them precious time, and it's more than reasonable to conclude they would not have wasted that time if not for the abortion law.

And this is what you always do in a situation like this, TastySuckToy. You cook up some barely-plausible alternative and, since we can't prove a negative, insist on pretending your explanation is as valid as the one supported by the actual evidence. It isn't. The reality that doctors in Texas can now go to jail for providing an abortion in a situation like the one described here has had an impact on the way they approach such a situation. Before Dobbs, the doctors in question would have had one set of parameters within which to make their decisions; after it, they had a profoundly different set of parameters. That matters, and no amount of throwing up alternative scenarios changes that.

My point was simply that if you haven't got a similar example from before Dobbs to point to - and you obviously don't - it really doesn't matter whether or not pregnancy-related deaths happened before. What does matter is the reason why this one happened, and the Texas abortion law is a factor that simply cannot be ignored.

 

[Lance_Castro]

How do you know that unless you have a medical degree and were there?

Hey, any doctor that breaks their Hippopotamus Oath is a shitty doctor in my book.

if that’s what happened. But obviously none of us was there.

Its like the Hegshisname Hotel Room story…. She says she said No several times, but I think her story is buyers remorse for cheating on her partner.

 

[ll74]

Hey, any doctor that breaks their Hippopotamus Oath is a shitty doctor in my book.

if that’s what happened. But obviously none of us was there.

Its like the Hegshisname Hotel Room story…. She says she said No several times, but I think her story is buyers remorse for cheating on her partner.

Oh fun....blaming women ...that's new

 

[Lance_Castro]

Oh fun....blaming women ...that's new

I believe in equality, so if a woman is wrong, she’s not a victim for you to rescue, she’s just wrong.

 

[ll74]

I believe in equality, so if a woman is wrong, she’s not a victim for you to rescue, she’s just wrong.

Oh yes...and so thinking women are wrong every time, saves all that decision making on whether she is.

Good call.

As for rescue, I'm not doing that regardless of whether you blame her or not.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The story linked in the OP contains expert testimony that the deceased was denied the care she needed because the doctors in question were afraid of running afoul of Texas' anti-abortion law.

And the doctors stated they were afraid of running afoul of the Texas' anti-abortion law...where?

 

[ll74]

And the doctors stated they were afraid of running afoul of the Texas' anti-abortion law...where?

Everywhere dipshit

Ambiguous anti-abortion laws are putting patients at risk​

 

[Lance_Castro]

And the doctors stated they were afraid of running afoul of the Texas' anti-abortion law...where?

That’s the kind of “Logic Jump” shortcut LitIdiots usually make.

Lol