Abortion clarified

[TrailerHitch]

Let me clear this up for you one last time.

1) The Supreme Court did not ban abortion it turned it over to the individual states to decide.

2) Not once, that I can recall, did any President try to have abortion rights codified into law.

3) The Supreme Court's ruling occurred during the Biden administration.

4) If your state bans abortion then you have a problem in your state.

 

[TastySuckToy]

4) If your state bans abortion then you have a problem in your state.

To which adrina has strongly proposed a completely workable and easy solution: women don't have sex!

Can't deny the logic of her solution, and I'm rather impressed she's finally conceded women don't lose choice even if abortion is outright banned.

 

[TrailerHitch]

If that's their choice hurray for them. The other choice may be make sure your partner is properly using a condom, or use one of the many different contraceptives available to women, or both. My bet is if women stopped having sex, men would stop dating and marrying them. Probably make for a slew of happier men in the end.

For many married men they find themselves in that situation already with their wives saying no to sex. Probably why there is so much cheating going on both hetro and bi-sexual.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

If that's their choice hurray for them. The other choice may be make sure your partner is properly using a condom, or use one of the many different contraceptives available to women, or both. My bet is if women stopped having sex, men would stop dating and marrying them. Probably make for a slew of happier men in the end.

For many married men they find themselves in that situation already with their wives saying no to sex. Probably why there is so much cheating going on both hetro and bi-sexual.

If men don’t want to be in unhappy marriages they can always choose not to get married.

 

[ll74]

Let me clear this up for you one last time.

1) The Supreme Court did not ban abortion it turned it over to the individual states to decide.

2) Not once, that I can recall, did any President try to have abortion rights codified into law.

3) The Supreme Court's ruling occurred during the Biden administration.

4) If your state bans abortion then you have a problem in your state.

What does this clear up except that you're a man telling us about abortion?

That's the issue you're missing out on.

 

[TrailerHitch]

If men don’t want to be in unhappy marriages they can always choose not to get married.

Brilliant commentary. You make it sound like you believe ALL marriages are unhappy. Pretty cynical. Do you honestly believe most men are miserable and unhappy with their partners when they marry? Doubtful. It is over time that issues arise, and many times sex is one of them. More women than men just decide unilaterally that they are done having sex, no discussion, no medical reason, just don't want it anymore. So what is the man to do? Just say okay? Masturbate? Have an affair? FWB? Escorts? Prostitutes? Bisexual encounters? Or divorce and move on, usually getting taken to the cleaners in the process. What's your answer?

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

To which adrina has strongly proposed a completely workable and easy solution: women don't have sex!

Can't deny the logic of her solution, and I'm rather impressed she's finally conceded women don't lose choice even if abortion is outright banned.

Isn’t it amazing the ones screaming the loudest about abortion are the ones least likely to need one?

 

[ll74]

Isn’t it amazing the ones screaming the loudest about abortion are the ones least likely to need one?

Not true at all.

The men screaming about abortion are the ones likely to be paying for one.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Brilliant commentary. You make it sound like you believe ALL marriages are unhappy. Pretty cynical. Do you honestly believe most men are miserable and unhappy with their partners when they marry? Doubtful. It is over time that issues arise, and many times sex is one of them. More women than men just decide unilaterally that they are done having sex, no discussion, no medical reason, just don't want it anymore. So what is the man to do? Just say okay? Masturbate? Have an affair? FWB? Escorts? Prostitutes? Bisexual encounters? Or divorce and move on, usually getting taken to the cleaners in the process. What's your answer?

Never implied anything close to that. Women are allowed to decide who they have sex with & how often, even if they’re married. I don’t see why that would be an issue.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Women are allowed to decide who they have sex with & how often, even if they’re married.

Very true. But if a spouse isn't finding fulfillment at home, they'll seek it elsewhere.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Very true. But if a spouse isn't finding fulfillment at home, they'll seek it elsewhere.

That’s a pretty scary thought that tells more about you than anyone else. So if your wife decides not to have sex, you’d just go outside the marriage instead of trying to repair the marriage you’re in. That’s something an awful human being would do.

 

[TastySuckToy]

So if your wife decides not to have sex,

We just agreed the wife can unilaterally deny sex at whim.

you’d just go outside the marriage instead of trying to repair the marriage you’re in.

A wife exercising her personal choice is a 'problem' that needs to be 'fixed'?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

We just agreed the wife can unilaterally deny sex at whim.

A wife exercising her personal choice is a 'problem' that needs to be 'fixed'?

We agree that either partner has to consent to sex. The difference is that you’re saying that if the wife chooses not to the man can go outside the marriage.
You said it was, now you’re backtracking.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The difference is that you’re saying that if the wife chooses not to the man can go outside the marriage.

If my wife unilaterally decided to end sex, I'd absolutely consider that permission to seek it elsewhere. And that's not a one way street either.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

If my wife unilaterally decided to end sex, I'd absolutely consider that permission to seek it elsewhere. And that's not a one way street either.

Ok, so NOW you’d be so kind to ask for permission. What would you do if she says “no”?
You kind of already admitted you’re a trash human being because you think the only thing a woman is good for is sex.

 

[Nicefella]

Let me clear this up for you one last time.

1) The Supreme Court did not ban abortion it turned it over to the individual states to decide.

2) Not once, that I can recall, did any President try to have abortion rights codified into law.

3) The Supreme Court's ruling occurred during the Biden administration.

4) If your state bans abortion then you have a problem in your state.

Thank you for echoing what I have been trying to tell anyone who will hear this.

The states are now basically deciding whether abortion rights are limited.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Ok, so NOW you’d be so kind to ask for permission.

No, I said denying sex is giving permission to seek it elsewhere.

What would you do if she says “no”?

We already agreed on this.

You kind of already admitted you’re a trash human being because you think the only thing a woman is good for is sex.

You seriously think a woman or women are only good for sex?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

No, I said denying sex is giving permission to seek it elsewhere.

We already agreed on this.

You seriously think a woman or women are only good for sex?

Yes, and because you said that I pointed out that you’re a trash human being because you think that a woman not consenting to sex gives a man permission to go outside the marriage.
You’re the one who is saying that all a woman is good for is sex

 

[TastySuckToy]

Yes, and because you said that

Show me where I said a woman or women are only good for sex.

you think that a woman not consenting to sex gives a man permission to go outside the marriage.

Correct. And vice versa.

You’re the one who is saying that all a woman is good for is sex

Show me where I said any such thing.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Show me where I said a woman or women are only good for sex.

Correct. And vice versa.

Show me where I said any such thing.

I’ve quoted you several times. If you believe that a man can go outside the marriage with no discussion if a woman decides not to have sex, then you’re saying the only reason a man gets married is to have sex.

When people get married they don’t vow to end the marriage if the other person doesn’t want to have sex.

 

[TastySuckToy]

If you believe that a man can go outside the marriage with no discussion if a woman decides not to have sex,

So you believe the woman can make decisions without discussion, but the man cannot? That's one heck of a double standard there.

then you’re saying the only reason a man gets married is to have sex.

No, I've never said the only reason a man gets married is to have sex. If sex was the only thing a man wanted, he could just have a fuck buddy or hire a prostitute.

 

[wallstreetguy]

I like how lefties on this and other boards are now saying women have rights when they cannot tell me that a dude in a dress is incapable of birth.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So you believe the woman can make decisions without discussion, but the man cannot? That's one heck of a double standard there.

No, I've never said the only reason a man gets married is to have sex. If sex was the only thing a man wanted, he could just have a fuck buddy or hire a prostitute.

You’ve said it multiple times and have been quoted.

 

[AceDesSpades]

It cannot be clarified because it has been chosen as a wedge issue and the first tell is the refusal to have a meeting of the minds over basic definitions and terms because it depends on the meaning of the word "is..."

It is one of the prima facie exemplars of the 4Cs:

If she kills it it's only a fetus.
If he wants to kill it, it's her body.
If he kills her, it's a double homicide...

Conflicting Concepts Comfortably Compartmentalized

 

[TastySuckToy]

You’ve said it multiple times and have been quoted.

You said women are inferior to men and should be slaves, and I'll never agree with that.