They’ll never live it down

[BrightShinyGirl]

I’m looking forward to the next 20 years of being able to win any internet argument simply by saying “You voted for Trump.”

 

[Saint_Ann]

I’m looking forward to the next 20 years of being able to win any internet argument simply by saying “You voted for Trump.”

Have you ever won an arguement on Lit. Nobody ever wins.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Have you ever won an arguement on Lit. Nobody ever wins.

You voted for Trump. Your opinion is worthless.

 

[Saint_Ann]

You voted for Trump. Your opinion is worthless.

I haven't voted.

 

[ll74]

I think you can just win by saying "you voted for <insert candidate here>" and it works

 

[RoryN]

I’m looking forward to the next 20 years of being able to win any internet argument simply by saying “You voted for Trump.”

I know - me too!

Might be similar to the stigma the pro-McCarthy crowd had to deal with after he was exposed as a loon - but on a much grander scale. We really don't know what it will look like yet.

It's going to go past "neener neener." These traitors will possibly lose out on employment, relationships, etc. It will shape our collective social conscious in the U.S.. And it'll change over time.

 

[SevMax2]

There are mistakes in my life that I may or may not live down, but that ain't one of them that I will ever have to worry about....as I have never voted for him. He's been on offer thrice, and thrice I have rejected him as a candidate. I can honestly say that with a clear conscience. I won't say that Harris is a perfect human being or flawless or that I have no reservations about her, but I would rather deal with her flaws and vices and whatever than deal with Trump's.

Full disclosure, I did vote for Bush both times, so I'm all-too-human as well. It's a case in point that a vote is not a mistake that you can take back or live down, so vote with your conscience, with the best information that you have available, and not just with your party affiliation. Character matters, something that Republicans used to say all of the time. Funny how they no longer give a damn about that. Maybe it was just a handy weapon against Clinton.

Ironically, it was a fictitious Republican who said it best, Arnie Vinick (Alan Alda) in The West Wing, "For in the end, a presidency is more than a simple catalogue of policies pursued, crises weathered, battles lost or won.
It’s a stewardship, a sacred trust, a commitment to sacrifice every fiber of your being — every thought, every moment, every — Every everything in service to your nation."

So, yes, I said "Never Trump" as a promise (mostly to myself), and I kept it.

 

[Pad_Foot]

But! Musk has told us to expect a huge down turn before the good times roll!! It will be the Dems who have to piece shif together AGAIN …. If we get to have another election

When will our new Emperor install a horse in the Senate?? That will be a sign our empire has ended (look up Caligula)

 

[SevMax2]

But! Musk has told us to expect a huge down turn before the good times roll!! It will be the Dems who have to piece shif together AGAIN …. If we get to have another election

When will our new Emperor install a horse in the Senate?? That will be a sign our empire has ended (look up Caligula)

Good news was that Rome ploughed forward after the Republic fell. The bad news was that it was as an Empire, a monarchy, an increasingly corrupt, brutal, cruel, tyrannical, and malevolent autocracy and despotism.

 

[Saint_Ann]

I'll be just fine whoever wins. I've watched too many people let their anger eat them up inside. Sorry.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I haven't voted.

So you still have time to save yourself.

 

[Saint_Ann]

So you still have time to save yourself.

From your condemnation? Lol.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

From your condemnation? Lol.

From public ridicule. People who vote for Trump in 2024 will be laughed at for years.

 

[Politruk]

The problem is, this doesn't end with Trump.

There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.

This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.

Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.

What happens then?

 

[TastySuckToy]

From public ridicule. People who vote for Trump in 2024 will be laughed at for years.

Everyone who has and is voting democrat has been laughed at forever.

this doesn't end with Trump.

First example of something that you posted I completely agree with, and is inspiring for the future.

 

[RoryN]

Trump supporters are denying his victims the reality of their suffering. And that is unacceptable, and what they'll be ostracized heavily for going forward.

It's like backing a known rapist instead of who they raped - and it's a testament to his evil, and his follower's delusions, that the analogy has roots in reality in regards to him.

People who would deny victims the reality of their suffering cannot be trusted in general, and this is what we'll have to deal with in terms of how we respond regarding them collectively. Such individuals must first demonstrate that a: they accept that reality and b: they accept that there are victims who are due the reality of that suffering. Until that happens = no catharsis.

If you want to know who his victims are, it's anyone from people affected by him personally, to families of COVID casualties, to each woman who was marginalized, each minority individual who was slurred, each LGBTQ person who lost standing as a human being, and even those trying to maintain decorum in normal human interactions - because he made it not only okay, but celebrated, for his cultists to be the worst version of themselves.

All of this is already in motion. Deplorables know this is their future; the tell-tale sign is some of them have already started screaming that they are victims too. "We were fooled!" You hear it on the street, and you see it in courtroom transcriptions. Get ready for a bumpy ride.

 

[Politruk]

Good news was that Rome ploughed forward after the Republic fell. The bad news was that it was as an Empire, a monarchy, an increasingly corrupt, brutal, cruel, tyrannical, and malevolent autocracy and despotism.

That wasn't even the problem. The cruelty of emperors really only affected the senatorial elite. The problem was that Rome had a monarchy with no established principle of succession. Succession by adoption -- an emperor designated his successor -- worked while it worked, but eventually, civil war became the usual way of choosing a new emperor.

 

[SevMax2]

The problem is, this doesn't end with Trump.

There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.

This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.

Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.

What happens then?

If we're lucky, it will pass to Vance, who is dangerous, but vulnerable on a number of fronts. If we're unlucky, it will pass to Tulsi Gabbard. That woman, and I speak as a former supporter of hers, is extremely dangerous. She has given in to her personal demons and any potential greatness in her is gone, but she doesn't see it that way, and in her ambition to achieve her version of greatness, she will (figuratively, I hope) knife anyone in her way. She is far smarter, tougher, and more ruthless than Vance. You don't become a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army Reserve by being an idiot.

 

[SevMax2]

That wasn't even the problem. The cruelty of emperors really only affected the senatorial elite. The problem was that Rome had a monarchy with no established principle of succession. Succession by adoption -- an emperor designated his successor -- worked while it worked, but eventually, civil war became the usual way of choosing a new emperor.

Ask the people of Alexandria about Caracalla....it wasn't always limited to the senatorial elite.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The problem is, this doesn't end with Trump.

There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.

This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.

Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.

What happens then?

It doesn’t end with Trump, but Trump is now a club we can beat them over the head with.

It’s not too late for them to jump off the Trump garbage truck. It hasn’t gone over the cliff yet.

 

[Lazaran]

I’m looking forward to the next 20 years of being able to win any internet argument simply by saying “You voted for Trump.”

I’ve already been doing that ^ for years.

 

[Saint_Ann]

From public ridicule. People who vote for Trump in 2024 will be laughed at for years.

You can sit there in your 1br rental apt. with your cats and laugh away. Maybe have an abortion or 2 just for fun. Eventually we'll die and it won't much matter. Will it?

 

[Lazaran]

It doesn’t end with Trump, but Trump is now a club we can beat them over the head with.

It’s not too late for them to jump off the Trump garbage truck. It hasn’t gone over the cliff yet.

The ones who are still on DonOld’s garbage truck are a lost cause.

They’re “lost cause-ers” from way back…like back to the civil war…

 

[Politruk]

No matter how things go under a Harris Administration, there will be a lot of assholes here and elsewhere stubbornly screaming about what a golden opportunity we missed in 2024.

 

[ll74]

I've been thinking about this a lot lately - whoever wins, the claims about them will be put to the test and those histrionic naysayers will either be proven right or proven wrong.

Will those people own up or not?

I think the verdict is either autocracy or communism....with a steady dose of rioting. Seems like our country will drastically change if either are true.